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How was this so hard to find for 50+ years? Perfectly labeled, it even said “A Love” on the box. 30 years I might believe, but not 50.

I’m guessing pretty free stuff, clearly unstructured enough to not be recognizable as part of the original suite.

Where are the horn-players?

Go on...

I'm finding it harder to resist ordering this on CD. You people need to quit going on about how great this thing is. My self-restraint may crater.

That's a rather personal question.

Hey Chuck! PM me your snail mail address so I know where to have this sent. I don't have your new address (not that I have your old one anymore either), or maybe you're summering on Martha's Vineyard or something. Just wherever you want this to get to you in about a week. https://www.ebay.com/itm/284416472052

See my edit above -- an NPR story has confirm Ward, Sanders, and a second bassist (I've never heard of) are all on this specific new recording.

Is Ward confirmed to be on this performance, specifically of A Love Supreme? Not sure I've seen any mention of that anywhere, but I maybe have overlooked something. All I saw was the general mention that he could have theoretically been on some of those Penthouse recordings -- but I've seen nothing about this specific one (about Ward). Joe Brazil and/or Carlos Ward, alto saxophone, may have sat in during some sets Never mind, I just saw this paragraph in one of the NPR online stories... Some of this surely has to do with the combination of a telepathic working band and an eager set of interlopers. Along with Coltrane's fearless rhythm section — McCoy Tyner on piano, Jimmy Garrison on bass and Elvin Jones on drums — the recording includes robust guest contributions by Sanders, alto saxophonist Carlos Ward and a second bassist, Donald "Rafael" Garrett. The chemistry among this cohort is fearsome, and by no means a settled proposition. When the album is released in physical form, it will include liner notes by Porter and another noted Coltrane historian, Ashley Kahn, which shed valuable light on this notion and more.

Are there any pictures of the Solder Field event? Trane, or Blakey? Or anybody? Are there any pictures that show the whole scene? (Something other than tight shots of the artists.) Really, of any of the lineups listed above. Or any other similar events at Soldier Field. The idea that this was part of a larger jazz festival suddenly makes it all make more sense. I had visions of a one-off concert with Trane as the headliner, and a couple openers — none of which made ANY sense to me for that kind of venue. But a multi-day jazz fest is totally plausible, and a horse of a different color entirely (and silly me for not figuring that out myself).

Chuck, could you share more about this? Coltrane, live, in a football stadium? My brain can’t fathom a venue like that, for practically any kind of jazz concert. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_Field Out on the field? On a raised stage on the 50 yard line? I’m trying to imagine it, and can’t. Trane w/ Archie Shepp, in a stadium?

Stewart Copeland… http://theparadiddler.com/2009/11/02/stewart-copeland-answers-questions-from-the-paradiddler/ Long SHF thread on the whole topic… https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/rock-drummers-with-traditional-grip.896418/

UPDATE: Been a roller-coaster over the last 3 weeks. Less than 48 hours after we got the word my Dad would have to move, we found a nearly “too-good-to-be-true” new place for him to move to — one with a better (newer infrastructure) facility, and nearly the same rent ($) and almost 80% of the space he’s had the last 2 years. Then they had to lockdown for 2 weeks because of Covid cases getting into their facility. Not a dealbreaker, we thought, and we’ll just delay his move by a 2-3 weeks… Well, longer story, but come to find out our staff-contacts there (2 different people) were giving us inconsistent stories about the spread of Covid there, inconsistent stories about the vaccination status of their entire staff, inconsistent stories about any prior Covid cases they had earlier in the year and last year. The final straw was when I talked to the exec-director of the retirement community my dad CURRENTY lives in (the one closing), and she shared horror stories she’d heard about the other place from more than one visiting nurse who had been in and out of the other place (and her own facility) — nurses she knew personally, and had been dealing with for 5 years or more (so very trustworthy sources). The place we thought my dad was gonna move to apparently had Covid cases running rampant last year, all of which they lied to us about when directly asked about the subject (one staff person told us NO cases last year, the other hesitantly said said “just one”) — and all their answers to Covid questions have been fuzzy, and/or they smacked of whitewashing. My dad’s deposit to hold this place was a pittance ($100), so who cares — but then last Friday we bailed on them, and we were suddenly back to square one. (Actually they don’t know we’ve bailed on them yet, and my dad could still move there if he absolutely had to — but I’m trying to avoid that like, well, the plague.) I’ll spare you all the other daily roller-coaster of events in just the last 3 days — but we’re now on our third other new place in 3 days, not because they didn’t have space, but various other road blocks or red flags (some of them issues with getting my Dad to understand he can’t have it all, and not pay quite a bit more for it). BUT then thankfully, just yesterday a new option presented itself — a brand new (separate) expansion facility of a place we’d previously ruled out because it was too far from where he is now (but we didn’t even know about their new location). And it’s a SMALL facility — just 50 apartment units — and it’s an actual assisted-living center (24/7 nursing on-site). It’s only about 25% more expensive than where is now (which has no nursing) — and the rooms are very nice and roomy. And I love that it’s so small, so he doesn’t get lost in the shuffle — and the smaller staff should insure they actually know how he’s doing (since I’m 1,000 miles away, and he has no other family in the area). In fact, it’s so new — the place just opened 5 months ago — that I think he may be the very first person to ever live in his specific apartment. It’s part of a smaller regional chain of assisted living centers — mostly all over Illinois, with some in Missouri and Indiana — about 30 different locations. The exec-director where he is now is *personally* helping all her residents find new places (god love her, she’s been a godsend in all this, and we intend to take her out to a really nice dinner when all this blows over). She’s personally helping “her people” (as she calls them) each find living situations that are really best for each resident. And she’s REALLY going several extra miles for us, because we’re so far away. Yesterday morning she *personally* ran over to this brand new place and met with their nursing director at some length (and to see the place for herself), and got brochure packets and applications for several her tenants who haven’t found places yet — and she gave those brochures to my Dad and told him about the place, all before lunch yesterday (less than 36 hours after she herself learned of the place). Then I talked with another member of their staff in the afternoon, and my dad’s going to visit the place this afternoon. It’s only about 7 miles from where he lives now — though my dad thinks it’s too far away. But I’m hoping like hell he really likes the place when he sees it. And the price/value is outstanding, about $3k/month — all food (3 squares) and basic care included. AND the rooms are almost 100 sq-ft BIGGER than every other option in his price-range for 25 miles in every direction, and they’re actually $1k/month cheaper than the next best options elsewhere (all of which are 100 sq-ft smaller). Fingers-crossed.

Most audiologists have masters degrees — possibly with another year of study/certification (but I can’t remember the details). I think you can get a PhD in audiology, but most don’t pursue it that far (and most audiology programs in universities don’t don’t offer PhDs). Source: my mom was an audiologist her entire career, and she also taught audiology at the masters level for about 10-15 years too.

When you get the chance to digest it a bit, find the other prior thread around here specifically about that set, and please share you thoughts! When the set was about to go OOP, I added a ‘safety’ copy to another Mosaic order I was making — and it’s the only release I’ve ever bought a duplicate of specifically to have a backup copy (in case my main copy ever failed or got damaged). Probably been a year since I last gave it a spin, so I should spend some time with it this week.

I did end up listening to the whole thing, and it was pretty good — but it was two guys jawbonin’ about this and that for ~35 minutes. All related to Lee and the set, and about Bennie Maupin. And they did try and elaborate about stuff drawn from the new liners — but anything they added seemed like fuzzy conjecture, or stuff I knew from here on the board, or from I Called Him Morgan. Not uneducated conjecture, but I wouldn’t say it was appointment-listening or anything. But I certainly didn’t mind that I’d taken the time to hear it.

Don’t think this’s been posted here yet —a 46-min podcast solely about the new, expanded box. Just now listening… https://www.wbgo.org/season-2/2021-08-13/lee-morgans-most-dynamic-band-is-revealed-in-full-on-a-staggering-new-boxed-set

So, where’s the best deal currently available on the CD edition? Maybe I’ll succumb to the temptation. I’m trying not to, but my resolve might not be strong enough. I’m legitimately wavering though, and there is a legit part of me that keeps trying to say the 3cd edition is plenty.

And here’s another one…

Rather than worrying about selecting just the optimal studio track, here’s a representative (and hot!) live performance by one of my favorite modern exemplars… Debo Band — based out of Boston https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debo_Band I have both their full-length CD’s and one EP — and they’re the real deal. The tenor-player (with the bald pate) is the ringleader.

I have a pretty good smattering of “Ethio-adjacent” jazz* — all on CD — that I’ll have to post some links to when I have the chance. The Bastards are pretty good about literally throwing “Ethio” into their product descriptions wherever appropriate — and that’s where I’ve picked up most of it. Also, using a few of these modern bands as ‘seeds’ for Pandora stations has really brought up quite a variety of great stuff — not all of which strictly has Ethiopian roots, but some of it definitely does. I’ll try and post some things here when I get the chance soon. *Actually, most of what I’m talking about is stuff The Bastards classifies as “global grooves” — but most of what I’ve bought (all of it I sampled at length before deciding to buy) is better than that label might imply.

Every time I see this thread title, I think of Harold Arlen… 🎶 Somewhere, Under a Golf Course…🎶

Here’s what surely must be a quite obscure Schoolhouse Rock ditty, about base 12 numbering systems!

I wonder if you looked at the total number of Blue Note sessions between let’s say 1957-1970 — what the breakdown would be (percentage-wise) of those released within 2-3 years of recording date — vs. those not issued until 4 years or more later. Maybe even include if the stuff that’s “escaped” since Blue Note got reactivated in the 80’s (like all the Conns and Rare Grooves — and the handful of unreleased sessions that didn’t come out until Mosaic (a few Andrew Hills qualify there). Maybe out of the grand total of all released BN material, perhaps as much as 25% of that came out in the 70’s thru the early 2000’s — ?? Can’t imagine it being as high as 30%, but I would believe 25%. Either way, given the overall size of the catalog, that’s quite a lot of material — probably close to 75 sessions? I’m just thinking out loud, and I suppose I could imagine these estimates a little better going thru the Ruppli book and tally all the sessions into a couple categories. Then there’s that one Woody Shaw “demo” tape too (In The Beginning), which there seems to be a lot of recent strong rumor about having been from actual legit Blue Note session(s). I’ve forgotten the details of the rumors, but some circumstantial evidence was bandied about, iirc. I do think we are indeed fortunate all that material “escaped” the vaults. It wouldn’t be hard for me to come up with 15-20 such “previously unreleased” albums that are among my personal top-50 all-time favorite Blue Note sessions.

Who’s the guy in the very front?