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you'se talkin' to me, Sir? I certainly am a shopaholic as far as books and CDs are concerned... I happily confess! Gave the disc a first spin last night, not sure about it yet, it's not earth shaking for sure, and it's certainly not bad either... probably just a minor thing, a blow-out by two footnotes in jazz history or some such (not to put Elliott down, I have several discs where he appears... Dedrick on the other hand I hadn't even heard the name before...)

"Dylan" is impossible to find for a sane price... In fact, I think there's plenty of nice stuff on "Self Portrait" - I'd love to hear that whole gig w/The Band, that's for sure!

Sorry Jim, took me a couple of days to decide if I should reply or not, but that Eicher bashing gets so old, you know... the man's got his ideas, he's been pursuing them for many years with great stamina and often superb and enlightening results. If you don't like his product, why bother, buy Black Saint and Soul Note and Nessa and India Navigation and what do I know... that'll be more to your liking, I guess... Also, why do you suppose Eicher actually nixed it? Maybe the session went bad, maybe the agendas of Smith and DeJohnette didn't allow for it actually to happen, maybe someone's tame rattlesnake got ill and hence the session had to be cancled... or some such. Whatever...

Yes, worth hearing, not sure it's worth owning, really... I picked mine out of a sales bin, I never pay regular price for boots. The new edition's cover looks much, much better though. I can't see sidewinder's picture (those storage sites are blocked on my work computer). Mine looks like this: This one looks great as well:

Fascinating stuff, yes! And indeed, a legit release of the full package in good sound would be more than welcome! This was bootlegged a long time ago (the disc I have is from pretty early in the days of CDs, it seems... prob. late 80s or so) Here's the info for the bonus session: Kenny Dorham Quintet Kenny Dorham (tp) Tore Sannes (p) Bijorn Pedersen (b) Jon Christensen (d) "Metropole Jazz Club", Oslo, Norway, January, 1964 Con Alma Royal Jazz (D) RJD 515 Short Story - Sky Blue - Lament - * Kenny Dorham 1953, 1956, 1964 (Royal Jazz (D) RJD 515) Royal Jazz is indeed the label I have the Lenox stuff on, so for the reissue they just added some more from another of their discs, assuming that Free Factory is some sort of follow-up (prob. relocated to Andorra, who knows)... stuff such as this should be released by some nice official label, or officially distributed by some outlet such as Smithsonian or what do I know, even more so nowadays, when not even the few big ones do reissues of jazz anymore!

Yeah, some of those bands turn up, Crimson, Soft Machine as well I think... and yes, it's indeed the same guy from the BBC series (I only read about that), and I think these "family trees" were printed one by one somewhere, originally, and only later on collected in books.

info from ECM's website: Manfred Schoof Quintet Resonance Manfred Schoof trumpet, flugelhorn Michel Pilz bass clarinet Jesper van`t Hof piano, electric piano, organ Rainer Brüninghaus piano, synthesizer Günter Lenz double-bass Ralf-R. Hübner drums CD 1 Scales Ostinato For Marianne Weep And Cry Flowers All Over Resonance Old Ballad CD 2 Source Light Lines Criterium Lonesome Defender Horizons Hope Sunset Recorded 1976-1979 ECM 2093 The first CD issue of music from Manfred Schoof’s three ECM/Japo albums of the 1970s – “Scales”, “Light Lines”, and “Horizons”. “Resonance” is the German trumpeter’s personal compilation of his favourite music from this era, released as two CD set. Schoof’s quintet was a highly regarded band on the European scene of the 1970s, and the “Scales” LP won the German Critics Prize as Album of the Year (Grosser Deutscher Schallplattenpreis 1977). At the time, both Schoof and frontline partner Michel Pilz were also members of Alex Schlippenbach’s freewheeling Globe Unity Orchestra (indeed Schoof still plays with the GUO periodically) and also recorded for ECM/Japo with that formation (see the albums “Improvisations” and “Compositions”). Release Date 28 August 2009 The blueprint for the quintet was to re-integrate lessons learned in free playing into melodically-intense small group jazz. Manfred Schoof “The 1970s, when these recordings were made, gave many musicians the opportunity to expand a scale of musical expression that originated from the free jazz of the 1960s. This led to a new kind of playing that did not hesitate to use and combine different means of expression – a process exemplified by the present recordings. The music on these CDs is contemporary and free in the best sense of these words; more so, it is timeless. Here the term “free” not only stands for a specific style of jazz that, in its beginnings, opposed with revolutionary gesture everything redolent of the past and reminiscent of tradition but rather the freedom to choose between a multitude of very different means of expression. Tradition, therefore, is viewed as a past experience that merges with and enriches a new style of sound.” Schoof showcased some exceptional talent in his band. Michel Pilz was, in the era, the only European improviser who had committed himself exclusively to the bass clarinet. Inspired initially by Eric Dolphy, he developed his own distinctive sound, playing inside the ensemble textures as well as soloing with energy and imagination. Günter Lenz and Ralf R. Hübner helped to define the direction of modern jazz in Germany. Both bassist and drummer were members of Albert Mangelsdorff’s pioneering groups of the 1960s and their detailed interaction is crucial to the buoyancy of the Schoof quintet sound. Lenz can also be heard on ECM with the Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra, Hübner with Eberhard Weber on “The Colours of Chloe” and “Chorus”. Together, for decades, they powered the rhythm section of the Jazzensemble des Hessischen Rundfunks – see the ECM album “Atmospheric Conditions Permitting”. The pianists in the Schoof group were players of the next generation. Dutch keyboardist Jasper van’t Hof came to Schoof after playing with Pierre Courbois’s Association PC and the collective Pork Pie, which also included Charlie Mariano and Philip Catherine, in a time when rock and jazz were influencing each other. source: http://www.ecmrecords.com/Catalogue/ECM/2000/2093.php

It's a 4CD set, same packaging as the recent 3CD set (Jarrett Trio, Codona Trilogy, Kuhn Solo/Trio/Quartet). Don't know any of the music, so I guess I should grab it... it's again pretty cheap, but a bit pricier as it contains one more disc. Gary Burton Chick Corea Crystal Silence - The ECM Recordings 1972-79 Gary Burton vibraphone Chick Corea piano Crystal Silence Señor Mouse Arise, Her Eyes I'm Your Pal Desert Air Crystal Silence Falling Grace Feeling And Things Children's Song What Game Shall We Play Today Duet Duet Suite Children's Song No. 15 Children's Song No. 2 Children's Song No. 5 Children's Song No. 6 Radio Song to Gayle Never La Fiesta In Concert, Zürich, October 28, 1979 Señor Mouse Bud Powell Crystal Silence Tweak I'm Your Pal / Hullo, Bolinas Love Castle Falling Grace Mirror, Mirror Song To Gayle Endless Trouble, Endless Pleasure Recorded 1972-1979 ECM 2036 This 4-CD box set reprises the history-making recordings “Crystal Silence” (1972), “Duet” (1978) and the live double album “In Concert, Zürich, October 28, 1979”. The duo was a seldom-tested format in jazz when pianist Chick Corea and vibraphonist Gary Burton, at the instigation of Manfred Eicher, came together for “Crystal Silence”, but its luminous music proved a resounding success. Both “Duet” and the Zürich recording won Grammy awards, and Chick and Gary toured to worldwide acclaim, astonishing audiences with their improvisational fluency. They have continued to make music together, for almost 40 years now: “Crystal Silence, The ECM Recordings” shows how the story began. Two live selections, “I’m Your Pal/Hullo Bolinas” and “Love Castle”, appear on CD for the first time in this collection. Booklet includes liner notes by Peter Rüedi and Steve Lake, and photos by Ib Skovgaard Peterse and Ralph Quinke. Release Date 28 August 2009 source: http://www.ecmrecords.com/Catalogue/ECM/2000/2036.php

Didn't know there was a book on it. I only remember seeing the TV series put out by BBC - which gets sporadic episode repeats. This is the one I got, I think: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rock-Family-Trees-...6969&sr=1-1 Not sure I actually got that 2-in-1 or just a one volume edition, but I don't mind... it ends mostly around 1980 (meaning you only get the beginnings of bands like Talking Heads or Patti Smith Group covered), but that's not a big issue I think, as mostly I'll be interested in exploring more 60s and early 70s stuff anyway. On the other hand, it seems very "white"... rock in general is white of course (white college boys I guess), but where it gets most fascinating to me is where it crosses over to blues and country and gospel and folk and soul and whatever, such as with The Band, for instance, where Curtis Mayfield becomes and influence etc. That's not part of the book, alas, as the book is sort of straight and person-based, not influence based (it would be a tough job to do such "trees" going by influences rather than by personal continuity... though it would be endlessly fascinating I guess).

Yes, that's Don Elliott... to my best knowledge, there's just one guy. He also played with Bill Evans (the duo disc "Tenderly" is rather fascinating). I don't have that Mundell Lowe disc, alas.

This one's lovely: Stefano Bollani - Carioca (EmArcy / Universal Yurp)

Ordered two by Greil Marcus, Mystery Train and the one about the Basement Tapes - should arrive any day now. Recently received that Rock'n'Roll Family Trees book - quite interesting I find though I won't actually "read" it, rather just flip around and pursue some paths. Also ordered Karl Loewith's autobiography.

just found this one used last week - was hesitant if I should buy it, did buy but not listen yet...

Whoah! I am still mightily impressed by The Band, caught the bug when seing the film in a theatre a couple of months ago, went and bought the 5CD "Musical History" box, and after playnig that up and down almost exclusively for several weeks, ordered all the individual albums and the 4CD edition of "The Last Waltz". How great it must have been to be there! (On the other hand, having been at the "Rock of Ages" concert wouldn't have been much worse...)

Andorra: 99.5% Nessa: 0.5%

I caved in an ordered a copy of "A Slice Of the Top"... with BN folding down their reissue activities (or so it looks to me at least) I guess it wasn't a bad move and it was still around for less than 20$ last week. But I will likely just store it away somewhere so that the day when I hear my final new Mobley album won't take place too soon yet

As far as I understand, actual surface shipping does no longer exist. The difference between priority and economy mail is that if you opt for the first, your package *should* go with the first flight, while if you opt for the later, it may lay around for a while and get shipped whenever there's some space... that's how they explained it to me in a local post office. Now back on topic: the H.R.S. set is very beautiful, chock-full of great music, many sessions by musicians that you might only know as sidemen, many discoveries to be made there! I'd not call it essential in its entirety, but it's very, very good, and one of my personal favourite Mosaic boxes!

yup, more congratulations, missed this thread earlier on!

The Navarro/Dameron (which is more Dameron/Navarro actually, I always look under "D" first and then remember that Navarro was listed first, for whatever reason...) is terrific, absolutely essential stuff!

Oh yes, they URGENTLY have to reissue "Golden 8" on CD before they get eaten up by the short bald speculating guys!!! On the other hand, how can the well be dry when they have a new Willie Nelson album with Norah Jones AND Diana Krall??? :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:

Sad news, seems he was a true original. I only have his two hatOLOGY CDs (and have heard one of the ECMs once) and am not quite sure what to make of his microtonal concepts and all, but even though I never turned into a big fan, I found it all sort of a appealing (at least in theory, but I actually do like the two CDs). There was a story on Mat Maneri in The Wire once, where he talked some about his father and his musical concepts. I found that very interesting (and I think it was around the time that the ThirstyEar disc of Mat's w/Joe McPhee was released... not sure that having McPhee on his disc is actually proof of Mat's greatness, but the discs I've heard of his - mostly hatOLOGYs as well, including some w/Matthew Shipp - are quite good, I find).

Thanks for all the recs - wasn't aware of the previous thread, will read it!

Can the US of A be sued for not releasing this 1940 recording? It should be declared cultural world heritage and distributed freely to all households all over the world. I'm sure the world would be a better place! Ya know, it might actually bring some of those terrorists to senses, just as Dizzy initiated the perestroika when he visited Greece with his big band in 1957... or some such But I'd (almost) kill to hear that recording, that's for sure!

hm, that should have been posted here: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=54279 not sure what exactly happened, first I lost my fast reply then it ends up in a wrong thread... anyway, since this is a Lester Young thread I would have ended up posting something of little importance here anyway, sooner or later...

Some of the material was also on Black Lion. I remember reading about such releases in a Penguin guide (prob. ed. 3, the first one I have). I haven't compared it all, but I guess with the three Fantasy Bud CDs you get a fair selection of those recordings originally on Mythic Sound. The all stars 1949 session (on "Bebop") isn't included there, I think. And the decision to include the whole trio session with Panama Francis is indeed a bit a weird one, but there's plenty to enjoy on the three CDs!