Harold_Z

Herbie Mann has a been a Jazz name almost as long as I can remember - I'm very sorry to hear of his passing.

Bad news..Lou Mecca passed away sometime last week. Don't know any details yet.

I saw him on a Saturday morning NBC news show about a week ago and Stevie and band both sounded GOOD.

Yeah...It's a great album musically and sonically. I hope another is in the works.

No question that the original is far superior to the first cd reissue - but in retrospect the first reissue is the only issue I'm aware of with the alternate take to "Ain't Misbehavin".

A friend of mine gave me a 2 cd "best of" a few months back. YEAH!!! I dig it too, Ed.

Music is Music and Politics is Politics.

I think you've hit on one of the main causes for jazz's declining popularity. I'm in my mid 50's now and when I was growing up the standard tunes that much of the jazz repetoire utilizes were still being heard regularly in a POP - NON JAZZ context. Singers on variety shows (remember them?) were still singing standards and Jukeboxes in diners and bars still had a lot of standards on them. In other words - even though Rock was begining to dominate the radio - there were still plenty of standards to be heard. When I got into jazz - the contrast of hearing the tunes in a jazz context was very appealing and the improvisations made sense because I "knew" many of the tunes already. Today's listeners face the problem you pointed out - only knowing the tunes in a jazz context and having to seek out and learn a body of work that an older generation had ingrained in them (if they were interested and were listening). I think all this adds up to making jazz a little harder to appreciate for someone growing up in today's pop culture brainwashing dictatorship. Another related problem - how are you going to recognize the "quotes" players often toss into their solos if you don't know this huge backlog of tunes? The quote goes right past you because you don't know the tune.

I also love it- just as much as the Handy. I probably listen to it more often than than the Handy album now - but in the past I think the Handy lp got more play. I'm happy to have both of them. At this point I've lived with both of these albums over 40 years and STILL listen to them often.

Another vote for the Columbia Hot Fives. The JSP is VERY good, and was the best issue UNTIL the Columbia came out. I have both- the sets aren't complete duplicates of one another repetoire-wise.

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Street Of Dreams is my pick also. Grant Green and Larry Young are a great combination and this is one of their best collaborations.

Hank White died some years ago - I can't remember exactly when but it's a while. Herbert Morgan is still playing (GREAT -I might add) - I did a gig with him less than 6 months ago.

Interesting sub topic. I don't really hear a close similarity between Bunny and Purvis. Bunny has a fatter sound and has a more relaxed style. I, too, would enjoy hearing the sound alike or disputed tracks. One thing to keep in mind about record dates is that there are a sizeable number of undocumented dates . It's like that now and it was like that 70 and 80 years ago. We'll never know the number of recordings any of these guys played on because they were cranking out every session someone asked them to do...and a LARGE number of those were probably very anonymous sounding although some may have good solos here or there. The final (6th) side of the Time/Life Teschmacher box was comprised of recordings Tesch was suspected of being on. there weren't enough confirmed sides to fill 3 lps.

Chuck...I just gave another listen to the Okeh and Victor versions that I have - not hard to do. It's very enjoyable material. Yeah, Hodges and Carney are heard to bettter advantage on the Victor. Harry gets a full 32 bars on the Victor that he doesn't get on the Okeh. (Brain wasn't going the other night...I'd have realized the Columbias were Okeh) The differences are interesting - to really get into them you need a score card. A lot of things are changed or moved around. For instance, Dig Barney behind Tricky on the first Bone solo early in the Victor - the same thing happens towards the end of the Okeh. Now I'd be interesting in hearing the alternates (which I don't have yet) to see if they changed parts around at the same session.

Yeah...OK...Freddie's the cat fannin' himself 'cause the shit got so hot! I remember that clip. I always thought it was Whetsol! I scoped this thread and headed for my system. WHAT A GAS...I heard Bechet's version and also two Duke versions - one on Columbia (was it originally on Columbia?) and the Victor version. Freddie a star? He should be. Tricky's in there too and so is Barney.

Yeah...Gloria. I have a few things on lp from the early 60s but nothing recent. BUT NOT FOR ME was her big splash as far as I remember and it was a pretty tasty record...She had a vocal version of King Curtis' SOUL SERENADE that got some play around 1964 or 1965 that I have on "45" and listened to and enjoyed very recently. Tasty soulful chanteuse. Thanks for bringing her up - it reminds to dig these records out and give them a well deserved listen.

Sam Woodyard

Absolutely. The only time I'm hearing commercial radio is when the radio is being held hostage.

It seems like they're playing the same hundred or so songs over and over as if those were the only hits. In a couple of years it'll probably be the same 20 or so.

Wardell Gray

Nat Pierce

The two that I actually like the best from this list are NEFERTITI and MILES SMILES...although it must be said that these are all good records. I like the PLUGGED NICKEL stuff a lot too. I like standards and I like the way these guys play them - even tho' Miles chops are "down" on these (Plugged Nickel) dates - his musicality is undiminished.

Kenny Burrell

Al Cohn