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Here we go again... It's not about "music". It's about how we relate to time & space and how we pass information through both. If we as a people are going to continue to evolve in a omni-dimensional reality where things like "place" and "schedule" continue to become as much a matter of choice as of unnegotiable necessity, then music that continues to be based on 3-D info being moved along through a stationary platform...I mean, there will always be something to do there but to what end....I'm skeptical. Cecil & others were hip to this a long time ago. The "DJ culture" whatever other shortcomings one might ascribe to it, figured it out too, as well as that function eventually form, and that there just ain't room to keep it all in one place anymore, so you gotta bob and weave the information where there's room for it to pass, and that you gotta be selective about the whats and hows of the information because people ain't gonna got the time, need, or, eventually, skills to stand still and be lectured to, so to speak, not when they can get what they need on the run. This is where the world is going. Hell, this is where the world is. Resistance is certainly possible, but to confuse resistance with even a gnat's hair's worth of chance of cessation is pretty much a fool's bet. In some places it's called "denial" and if it's practiced on a wide enough scale, things....just come to a slow, painful, gloppy trudge of an almost-halt and then finally die.

My daughter had a similar experience a feww weeks ago w/non-musical merchandise. It ended up in the "dead letter office" in Atlanta(?). But it took a while to get there. It showed as being in Chicago for a few weeks, and then finally one day, poof! there it was at the DLO. We called, provided the tracking # & a description of merchandise, and we had it at our door in less than 24 hours. Ask your local PO for their local/regional customer service # and get them to give you the # for the dead letter office. Also get the CS # for the city that your tracking shows as the last stop for your package & call them. It might still be there, or else they might have a record of sending it to the DLO. My daughter's package - from a reputable retailer of anime figurines, etc - had been shipped with a label that had not been addressed! I guess that Japan postal figured that the USPS would handle it, and I guess they were right! Once it went as far as it could in the US, I they hold it for a set period and then ship it to the DLO. After it hits there, it sits for I forget how long (30 days maybe?) & then is discarded. So follow the trail, get phone #s of the people & places that have actually held or will hold your merchandise, and follow up regularly. Odds are not too terribly bad that your package can be found if you just get in touch with the right place - which your local PO is not going to be, not now. Don't give up, but don't dally either. Good luck!

I went for too long thinking of him only as an "Oscar Peterson drummer". Finally heard some other stuff, starting with the Verve side, and realized what a fool I had been. RIP

Did he pull?

I suspect that whatever was there, it was yellow.

Tony always sounded like Tony, not matter what. Sure, what "Tony" sounded like would change over the years, but "Tony" was always Tony! It took me a while to get used to the later "Tony", but I dig it now. Better late than never, I suppose. It's proven to be a distinct, original voice with its own logic, idea, realities, and vision. And it swung like hell.

A great talent indeed. Count me as a fan of all of it. Everybody get up, get down, get funky, get loose. Sounds like a plan to me!

Not taken as one, but I think that in all probability Dorn made Rahsaan feel comfortable being Rahsaan in the studio (what any good producer should do, really), and once that happened...

Didn't Hendrix then begin headlining w/Soft Machine opening, or something like that?

Up! For some laffs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB9M6tzANNk&NR=1

Speaking of tragic, some might say doomed, characters, m I the only one who sees more than a few parallels between Brain Wilson & Marvin Gaye, musically and otherwise?

Iyer's one of the few "newer" players that (often enough) tell me stories that keep me listening. "Great record"? I don't know. Give all a few years and living with and then decide. All I know is that the guy and his cohorts speak to me of (not to) "today" in some pretty basic ways (down to the sound of their records, very hard, in-your-face, like hip-hop & not RVG) that not all that many others do. What relevance "today" has to "forever"...we'll know when we get there. In the meantime, as long as the stories are there, I'll keep listening. And Rudresh - YEAH!

wow....how much sadder can the Wilson story get?

"the time has come to face facts straight in the eye"? whoa....

It already has been - in, among other places, the deep underground of the "DJ culture" which is slowly beginning to influence some jazz, quiet as its kept. Which is why "justifying" the relevance players like Eric Alexander is like justifying VCRs. Otherwise, I rest my case. Revisit this thread in ten years.

Red lived in Dallas for about a decade. He played locally with semi-regularity but considered himself "semi-retired".

Yeah, I know what you mean. But I also know that the quality of life in a society that aggressively but intelligently places a premium on moving ahead is different (dare I say better?) that one that settles for what it has and pretends it's as good as it needs to be. You got people justifying Eric Alexander, you got people loving their Wal-Wart. In the greater scheme of things, it's part and parcel of the same syndrome. Your newborn could have access to better health care and you could have some food in your refrigerator, but society has made it choices to this point, and getting them interested in reconsidering those choices ain't an easy task. Music does not function in a vacuum (even if that's where the gigs are...). It is a part of a broader collective awareness, consciousness, consensus, whatever you want to call it. If we have people here saying that "this player" is as food as we can get today so we will embrace him instead of saying hey. c'mon we need better and going about getting it, then is it any wonder that the rest of society follows suit? See ya' at Wal-Mart, and no complaining!

And the thing is - it's not just about music. It's about ongoing quality of life. What we have here w/the Alexander Redmans of the world is just a symptom of a much larger syndrome. The "it's just music" thing misses the point entirely.

Yeah, but remember, if we can't have art, we still be delighted by living interpretations of long-standing traditions or so wonky bullshit like that. These days,the bar is wherever we set it, so you can't lose. Neat trick, eh?

Yeah. And if somebody repeats in in 50 years as if it's their own (or even worse, recognizes it as mine but thinks they deserve props simply for using it and not making up their own shit), I want the young folk here who will still be alive then to smack them silly. Draw blood and shit, it's ok. Palladin Rulz!

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but when I listen to an Eric Alexander CD I assume I'm listening to someone working inside a long estabished tradition and not breaking any new ground...and doing it beautifully. We have different definitions of beauty then, that's all I can say. Which is, I suppose, as it should be. But I mean, fucking your grandmother is weird enough. But making love to her, man, that's really jacked!