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Dude, I see the name and my mind processes "Josh Brolin", so I'm, like, outta there before I even have a chance to get in.

How was the Love Scene between Ms. Childs & Ms. Roberts? Frankly,I'm just a little queasy at the notion, but...well...artistic freedom and all that.

He was of that time, but he did not wear the hat. Nor did he chew the cud. Agree about his skills, too.

If Stevie should be pissed, so should have Johnny Green. Moreso, in fact.

"Stompin' At The Savoy"

Is that Chico Hamilton?

For the faboolus babes, real and in pickshures.

See, I don't see where, how, and why dancing, partying, and LISTENING are of necessity mutally exclusive...never have, really.

Not sure I understand how "content" = "serious listener" except as a coincidental overlap... that's kinda like stipulating up fronthat unless you're a "serious lsitener" that "this is not for you", and I'm not sure that anybody could or should do that, except as a marketing tactic...

There isn't any. I'm just saying that I can hear some being done, future tense, as in it could be done, I think it should be done, I think it will be done, and I think it will be good when it happens, if it's done by for real players with for real intentions. Otherwise, screw it.

Marty McFly Super Fly Atom Ant

"Funny", no, but as a weird semi-parallel to clem's Ode to Clark Terry, i did find it, uh..."interesting", which is something i have never said about Weird Al before.

i know...

What does the "F" stand for?

Then you haven't seen the pictures of Joeganissimo making out with a deaf leopard.

What's the on the Strangers In The Night album, on "My Baby Just cares For Me". about "like walkin' round without shorts" or something like that?

Pictures.

Chuck Green was God. And "No Maps On My Taps" is The Bible. Nobody should do what they did like they did, but they sure as hell should do what they did.

Welllll......maybe not....

That's a big part of what I mean, yeah. Not all of it, but a big part. I mean, how can somebody today really live "Joyspring"? You can live the records, sure, but there was a time when you could live the tune too, it's harmoniess and contours and "message" were there when you left your record player and went outside. Far less so, if at all, the case today... which is ok with me, because there's a part of that song's message that is eternal (at least i hope so). But it's not the "musical style" part. And I think that not willing to let go of (or at least give the sentry at the gate a nice retirement party) the "musical style" is what's stunted waaaaay too much of American Jazz.

Indeed there is, and a lot of it is "jazz-influenced" to one degree or another, enough so that it really makes more sense (to me anyway) for it to be taken more seriously as an influence for "new jazz" than does a way of life-music that not only barely exists any more, but was made by people who younger musicians can only know as one degree or another as "legends", which is a step or five away from turning into "myths". And - the existence of this music in small, but global, pockets means that traditional "performance" is not a viable career-sustaining possibility. But just documenting/disseminating/existing thru recordings is not enough either. I'm sure that a way out of this quandary will someday be found, the spirit is too strong for it not too (but is the ego supple enough, that's the big question)...say what you will (or won't) about the results of Belden's Miles From India project, but the guy had some player playing in real time in different locations. This type thing is still in its infancy, and yeah, it sure is "different", but...it's there to be dealt with, and it can surely provide an end to The Isolation Blues, at least in its own way.

Just asking for information -- no "reason" to get testy about it. And, please, I'm not one of those professional "jazz savers" that rightly get your back up. Yo man, I'm so not "testy" about this! I cashed my reality check long enough ago to know that it's gonna be what it's gonna be, nothing more. Been thinking about changing my name from Sangrey to Sanguine, in fact. fwiw/the fact that this "testy" post came after a post of yours, and in the middle of a dialogue between us should not be construed as a comment to/at you or your post(s). Maybe I've gotten enough of a Digital Mentality now that I post a "general" comment in the middle of a series of "specific" ones and not even notice it, much like how at work now I can email, IM, and interact w/task-specific software all at once (it did take some readjustment time, though, like...years...). Anyway, that's the deal, really. sorry if i failed to properly "directionalize".

Looks and sounds like a heck of a lot of fun, and maybe a good deal more than that, but it happened over there and not here for what reasons do you think? American jazz musicians, for the most part, so not want to be danced to. They think it demonstrates a superficial "understanding" of their music. They want people to sit still, shut up, and listen. Like a direct reflexive connection isn't enough, you gotta stun them into a Pavlovian submission of sit, applaud wildly after each solo, SHOW YOUR APPRECIATION, and all that bullshit. I mean, yeah, ok, sometimes that is what is called for, but then again, most motherfuckers don't have enough to say to make that thing valid for more than a tune or two, never mind a whole night. But oops, sorry, I forgot, they don't need to - they're Artists, and theya re making Art. Yeah, whatever. That is, is it a function of their virtues and circumstances, or of our scenes' failure to be in a certain way? Personally, I think that the acceptance of "jazz" as "art" in America came after most of the real artists were gone. So now it's like, "Hey, we finally got art, now we gotta have artists. What we gonna do now?" So now we got role players, not artists, playing for an audience (such as it is) that wants to be role-played to. Having never visited the UK, I don't know what their scene is, but hell, it sounds like there's an ongoing community that looks at "art" as a way of living everyday life, not as a collection of "objects" to "admire". If true, I can only say, "Right =On". And is it over there a response to recorded music that already exists, or is it interacting with music that is being made by musicians over there right now? Both, is my understanding. But the music made by the living musicians may as likely be of the "Acid Jazz" variety as of the "Hard Bop" kind. And to that, all I can say is, "so what?" And truthfully, "America" is no longer the point, not when the reality of now is increasingly global, not regional, both musically and technologically. That's just the way it's going, and militancy to the contrary runs the risk of ending up sounding like Joe The Jazz Plumber, somebody who feels that they've been villainously deprived of a Golden Age when in fact all they are is just too damn blind and/or lazy to try to make one of their own in the here and now out of the her and know. Hey, check out 4Hero w/Ursula Rucker (from 11 years ago!): Ain't nobody worried 'bout no "art" or "tradition" or tired shit like that, just people making serious music that takes a lot from the past, but uses it instead of uses it. If I got a cjhoice between, say, Phil Woods (A GRAND Representative of the GREAT American Art Form Called Jazz) or Ursula Drucker and/or 4 Hero, and thank god i do, then i think i know where i'm going. Sorry, Phil.