well hindsight is 20-20 but now i see that if she was solo on bethelem in what, '55, then yea '53 makes scence - i will look that over, im always on jazzdisco but not jazzdiscogrpahy. i need to browse that more. i just read up on all the kenton stuff, i didnt know he was a monster, and so was his mother too. you cant blame that on the drinking, thats not a drinking side effect, they were straight up crazy. whats the deal with the young kenton biography. is it known in his younger years the events which led up to him becoming evil.