Guy Berger

I am pretty excited about the Taborn - I hope it isn't TOO ECM'ized

Hi all, I have been thinking of picking up a Chris Lightcap album. I see he has 4 recordings under his name: Lay-up (Fresh Sound, 2000) with Tony Malaby, Bill McHenry and Gerald Cleaver Bigmouth (Fresh Sound, 2003) with Malaby, McHenry and Cleaver Deluxe (Clean Feed, 2010) with Malaby, Chris Cheek, Andrew D'Angelo, Craig Taborn and Cleaver Epicenter (Clean Feed, 2015) with Malaby, Cheek, Taborn & Cleaver Which one is the best?

It's really unfortunate we have zero recordings of Miles's working group between May 20 1961 and April 15 1963. (And even the non-working-group recordings during this period are at best footnote-worthy.) (Also interesting and probably not coincidental that Hank's discography during this period is nearly silent this period.)

RIP. His work with King Crimson was 100% classic and some of his work for ELP was great too.

Out of character for the late 60s, early 70s firebrand/mystic Pharoah - but absolutely in-character for the calmer/mellower Pharoah of the last 2-3 decades! Guy

I love that Andrew Cyrille is getting more exposure. Massively overdue.

Hi all. This Trio has been discussed elsewhere on this board, but I thought I'd start a new more general thread. I caught them about two years ago and thought it was amazing. However, I don't own any of their albums. Any recommendations on where to start [& for that matter where to continue after I've started]? These are albums that seem to be available for purchase? Open Ideas [Palmetto] Encounter [Passin' Thru] At this Time [Intakt, w/Geri Allen] Refraction - Breaking Glass [Intakt, w/Jason Moran] Wiring [Intakt, w/Vijay Iyer] Time Being [Intakt] Berne Concert [Intakt, w/Irene Schweizer]

Injecting yourself is fine. I don't even care that much about objectivity as long as there is awareness/honesty/transparency of biases and blind spots. However, my eyes do glaze over when a review is more about the writer than about the music.

Haven't nearly all these concerts been extensively bootlegged?

Interesting comments. I know Keith Jarrett said at some point that electric keyboards ruined musicians who played them - not just their electric music, but also their subsequent acoustic music. I think he called out Herbie by name but may have also meant Chick. Obviously Keith is a very different animal in the sense that over the past 35 years he's mined 2-3 seams very deeply rather than trying to do a lot of things. I don't have any priors on which approach is better. [BTW, I generally agree that his post-1973 music is of less interest or instant appeal to me. But I would say that for a lot of musicians, not just Chick.

I'm definitely picking up the Murray and Abrams. Have my doubts about the Waldron. What about the Roach?

ROCK ON!!!

What do folks think of this? Like a lot of ECM studio recordings it is much more atmospheric & less hard-hitting than the group sounds live. But it wasn't as sleepy as a many other ECM recordings and I enjoyed it a lot.

Just gave this a first listen. It's really good!

Hopefully they'll make it out west!

Glad you're still making excellent music, Mr Sanders!!!

I think of him the way I think of Bill Evans - tremendously influential (including on folks that I really like), played on some records and with some groups that I love, but not somebody I get really excited about (though I "get" why others love him). My favorite stuff with him is early in his career - with Chico Hamilton and Jimmy Giuffre.

I hadn't even heard of this album. Why was it not included in the Clifford Jordan Mosaic?

Yup. And certainly X-75 Vols 1 & 2 strongly anticipate a lot of the non-band experiments on Song Out of My Trees, Carry the Day, Makin' a Move as well as the two most recent Pi albums.

I love Cyrille - one of my 2 fave living drummers - and am delighted that he is getting an opportunity to reach a potential new audience via ECM. That said, I look at this lineup and am a little disappointed.

Do you think any of Henry's other music has the same "pastoral" feel? "In for a Penny, In for a Pound" also has a "country" album cover and has a bit of a "country" feel.

I agree with uli, "Grief" is my personal highlight. How do people feel about Henry's absence as an instrumentalist from two of the tracks here? While I love him as a composer/conductor, his instrumental voice is really wonderful and really welcome when it's present.

Can't entirely discount the personal preference element - a substantial minority of listeners genuinely prefer technically "inferior" sound. Guy

Any idea when these coming out? Guy

Enjoyable album!