Big Beat Steve

This Savory material is one box set (or series of box sets) that I'd gladly place a SUBSCRIPTION for!

Yes, very sad news. RIP. His photographs are among the very greatest in jazz photography, although I admit I'd really have a VERY hard time deciding overall whether I'd prefer Herman Leonard or Bill Gottlieb (probably depends on the mood I am in).

Mindboggling! I do hope they will do some sort of project of releasing this music to the collector public. And 70 years after the recording date even U.s. copyright should not be that much of a problem anymore? Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Checked my LPs and sure enough, have it too (found in the special offers bin at what is probably the last local brick and mortar secondhand records store with a decent jazz vinyl selection). On my (secondhand) copy a previous owner scribbled "Chubby Jackson & His Knights" on the back cover above the Bill Harris All Stars credits. No idea offhand where he got this info from but maybe this is a lead as to where the music originally really originated.

Check out your old copies of the DOWN BEAT ANNUAL. The 1963 issue has a lengthy feature with a rundown and brief descriptions of (U.S.) jazz books from the very beginning. It does mention the books by Whiteman and Osgood (see above) for the year 1926.

Perhaps major labels still follow an unwritten rule not to poach each other, despite the European copyright law. So how come these tracks are on the US box? If I read the item descriptions on Amazon correctly both were reissued by Sony. So how come Sony managed to include them for the US release but not for the European one? Doesn't look like a case of "not poaching each other" but more like some other behind the curtain scheme...

Isn't it sad that Jack Parnell seems to be remembered - even here - mainly for such trivia as that Muppet thing (of which I, for one, wasn't even aware, BTW, and do not think I missed anything)? Didn't he do enough recordings of his own and under his own name that would merit some remembrance? Or was that too long ago? Brits, speak up!

Sammy Price Herman Chittison For starters by these artists, the early post-war stuff by Jimmy Jones Billy Taylor And if it's got to be a little bit more bluesish than that, don't miss Little Willie Littlefield and Champion Jack Dupree

Please set me straight: What are the really, really superlative qualifications of contributors to CLASSICAL music mags when it comes to reviewing early blues? Not that being really sympathetic to the music would automatically result in a positive or rave review, but it certainly is an essential ingredient to an in-depth understanding of what you are supposed to review. Wonder what reviews of classical music would turn out like if you were to review that music from a JAZZ (or rock or whatever) angle. As for the rest: Disgusting! And a case for big, fat whistleblowing IMHO.

One image that always baffled me is a picture in "Eddie Condon's Scrapbook of Jazz" that shows a 50s get-together at Condons' when the regular Condonites (including Wild Bill Davison a.o.) were joined by Gerry Mulligan, Bob Brookmeyer and Don Elliott for an after-hours session. No doubt a setting that was much more "traditional" (in the stricter sense of the word) than anything mainstreamish done with Ben Webster or Johnny Hodges. Wonder if any of these get-togethers were ever recorded.

Lucky you - where did you find that? this is one CD high on my wants list but it always seems to be highly priced (actually have an Australian 10" Mercury LP "Young At Bop" - contains 8 titles on the CD) Have only seen it on Amazon (US, UK, France & Germany) Unless you eally are totally dead set on the CD format, try searching for the two 70s Mercury (UK) LPs SWWL 21028 ("Bebop") and SWWL 21038 ("The Herdsmen"). They have all the essentials (read: master takes, minus the two Frances Wayne vocals) from this CD plus quite a bit more.

If nothing else, to the entire ROCKABILLY fraternity Hank Cochran will always be remembered as the (unrelated) "other half" of the Cochran Brothers that got the legendary Eddie Cochran started in 1955. And Hank's contribution to that duo should not be underestimated at all. That bio linked above is skewed, to say the least. Outlining a career as beginning at the moment the man "moved to Nashville" is another telltale example of the self-centered and navel-gazing view of the world à la Nashville. Weak ... Fans of REAL country music (not of the watered-down, streamlined Nashville variety) know better anyway.

Now how is this to be understood exactly? Disadvantaged children + disadvantaged athletes and coaches + disadvantaged firefighters etc. Sure would make for an interesting mix ...

Always loved her version of "Boogie Woogie Conga" (from the Hellzapoppin movie IIRC). Will Bradley could have done worse than to use her for his rendition of the tune (instead of singing it himself).

But these are "latter-day" Keynotes that fall widely outside the "classic" Keynote period, isn't it, Brownie?

Brute, that's the reason I was asking. I have a huge lot of the Keynote tracks (i.e. those that were released at the time) on a wide variety of Mercury LPs as well as some CDs so of course I already have the majority of what was released on that label back then. Overall completeness and/or the inclusion of a significant amount of previously unreleased aterial would therefore be "make or break" criteria for any Keynote box set for me. Of course it is nice to have the music all in one place but if I already had, say, 75 or 80% of the music on other discs (that I do not see fit to part with anyway) that would be a tough decision.

:tup for that one! Continuing in the "forefathers of Tex-Mex" realm, I'd also recommend this for its "oddball entertainment" value: http://www.swapacd.com/cd/album/44001-on+the+road+with+rocknroll The CD seems to OOP but donwloads exist. And maybe secondhand copies of that CD aren't that elusive ... Finally, since somebody mentioned "Jazz In Mexico", here is a historical nod in that direction: http://www.freshsoundrecords.com/jazz_in_mexico_the_legendary_1954_sessions_vol.1-cd-3787.html http://www.freshsoundrecords.com/jazz_in_mexico_the_legendary_1954_sessions_vol.2-cd-3786.html

So that legendary 21-LP Japanese Keynote set does not have the entire recorded Keynote output after all (at least the master takes)?

I have that one but have only given it a BRIEF (and spotty) listen since receiving it so cannot comment on it yet (except that it is fairly "straightforward"). Will listen closer ASAP.

No, Kenny, I am not surprised but cannot really contibute much there. I do enjoy what Adolph Hofner sings in Czech (not only on the Arhoolie reissues but also on what has since been reissued among his Decca and Sarg recordings) but have never gone beyond that (yet ... ). BTW, some interesting tracks (that complement other more widely available reissues) are found on this recent reissue: http://www.venerablemusic.com/catalog/TitleDetails.asp?TitleID=14832 Again, I remember marvelling at the variety of reissues in the field of German-Bohemian (etc.) immigrants' music that Arhoolie had in their early 80s catalog, and no doubt this has been expanded in the CD era. But somehow it all was (and is) a bit too ... well, "esoteric" for me, and as you only can buy so much (and I am running out of storage shelf space FAST anyway ) this category has never made it to anywhere near the top of my buying priorities. As I have only tipped the iceberg of early Tex-Mex music so far, example, there will be more to check out there before I expand relentlessly into other historical "ethnic" music.

In the vinyl days i checked out the Arhoolie offer to "Norteno" music (i.e. pre-Fender/Lobos etc. "pop" Tex Mex music) too and was rather overwhelmed. I agree that Arhoolie is the way to go for TEX-Mex music, especially reissues from the pre-1965 era). Unless you really are in a completist mood, compilations really are the way to go IMHO to get a broad yet in-depth overview. For early individual artists, I would have snapped up El Ciego Melquiades and Narciso Martinez too in a first round. Personally I always went by the "category" or mujsic as indicated in the track listings. RANCHERAS were a sure bet for lively music, their brand of polkas is enjoyable too (and both categories should indeed sound familiar to fans of 30s/40s Western Swing as there are common sources indeed), "Schottisches" (sometimes spelled "shotis" on their discs) are an acquired taste for me (just as the Bob Wills Schottisches, incidentally ), and I for one have never really got into CORRIDOS, that other major subidiom of Mexican//Tex Mec traditional music. They are only for those who really do speak Spanish well and want to indulge in the lyrics (as these really often are "topical songs" and live strictly on the lyrics) but the accompaniment often really is very basic and monotonous if taken from the instrumental aspect alone. So if a compilation had a huge share of corridos I knew it was not really essential for me (though I do understand Spanish rather well). As for truly Mexican (as opposed to Norteno) artists, if reissues of earlier artists are anything to go by, Javier Solis or Jorge Negrete seem to be another path worth checking out for what was popular in Mexico back in the day (from what I remember seeing in the Mexican bins in record shops in Spain in the early 80s they were as well represented there as Chavela Vargas, for example). BTW, Kenny, in case you remember or still have those Arhoolie vinyl Norteno music compilations, Vol. 1 or their anthology (which was sort of an "introductory" volume) has a very interesting booklet listing many artists worth checking out in the opinion of the Arhoolie people and give lists of what was available or woirth trying to search for as of the late 70s when this LP was released. So it might be worth checking what there is of the artists listed there that has since been re-reissued elsewhere.

Dan, actually I for one wouldn't mind a thread about "cover art with animals with feathers", and as you know other threads do branch off outside jazz or are dedicated to non-jazz artists. But like I said, rattling off names with no details (let alone cover images) is just plain silly and not even worth considering. So to counterbalance that bigass bird, here is a LITTLE bird: D: :D

Like sh.t it is legitimate to post such utterly nonsensical stuff in THIS manner. I am all with what Dan Gould said above. And like others said before, "Bird" (with a capital "B") has a very clear connotation here and there is absolutely NO room for interpretation here. Now if on the other hand you would want to start a topic on "covers of animals with feathers" then why not, but GO AHEAD AND POST THE COVER ILLUSTRATIONS THEMSELVES AND GET SOME DECENT SCANS OR PICS OF THE COVERS IN HERE FOR JEEZSAKE!!! And that goes like this: Rattling off a list of names with not even a mention of the label and order number (who knows what LP went through what cover art mutations through various reissues), then THIS is pathetic. Such anonymous lists in a thread that's supposed to SHOW covers with a common theme is STRICTLY FOR THE BIRDS! Like Dan said, take a hint, man ...

So hardly anybody around here was into Prez enough to state HIS first? Prez aint just anybody, after all ...

My first Lester Young leader LP: "Pres At his Very Best" (Mercury early 70s reissue of 1944 Keynote masters) feat. Johnny Guarnieri, Slam Stewart, Sid Catlett as well as Buck Clayton, Dickie Wells and Basie-Richardson-Green-Jones rhythm section