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Maarten Altena on Marion Brown's Porto Novo for sure, another great performance on Marion's most unruly LP. Speaking of Brown, Ronnie Boykins and Reggie Johnson perform some of the best two-bass interplay I've ever heard on ESP 1022. Yes! Very fond of his work, especially on "This Nearly Was Mine" from the first Candid record. There are a lot of excellent Grimes performances on record. The last ten years and the hullaballoo around his "return" gets under my skin, but it's not really his fault. It's the people around him. Motoharu Yoshizawa - Inland Fish - particularly like the duo with Sabu Toyozumi on the second side. Very Barre Phillips-like in approach, and worth a listen if you're interested in freer bassists.

Grimes was great, but it's always hard to bring him up because of the whole "return" thing.

Kent Carter - again, really love his playing with Steve Lacy, though I must say that the String Trio discs from more recent years are particularly wonderful. "I was born in New Hampshire and I am not yet dead." Best LP liner bio ever.

Jacques Coursil - Way Ahead (BYG) - some of my favorite Béb Guerin is on here Barre Phillips - Journal Violon (Opus One) - the first solo bass record and in my opinion, still the best. Alan Silva - on Cecil Taylor's Unit Structures in particular, his playing on the title suite is just extraordinary. Gary Peacock - his playing, in tandem with Mark Proctor and on his own, on the Sonny Simmons/Prince Lasha album "The Cry" is just phenomenal. This is even apart from his great work with Ayler, on Anthony Williams' Blue Notes, and throughout the mid-60s is just wonderful. Malachi Favors - man, where to start? I first really caught wind of his greatness on the Art Ensemble BYGs but he's great throughout all the early AACM material, going forward from Roscoe's Sound. And his solo LP on AECO is the shit. Jeff Clyne - he's on a lot of excellent records but I first got wind of him on Tony Oxley's The Baptised Traveller. Similarly I think that though I'd heard Barry Guy the record to click for me was Howard Riley's The Day Will Come, which is as much Guy's record as Riley's. Buschi Niebergall - his playing on Nipples (Peter Broetzmann) just knocks me out. I actually prefer him to Kowald when it comes to German heavyweight bassists.

yeah I have had a couple of copies; the current one is a white label from the mid-70s that sounds really good to my ears. I had one that sounded pretty shitty but it was easy to sell for like $60 or whatever. A first would be nice but I'm not sweating it too hard.

I'd be curious to hear the extra tracks. I have the Incus LP - the original cover is very nice looking (and humorous). It's interesting to think about this, Nipples and ICP #4 all being recorded/released around the same time. All pieces of the same pie and complementary listens.

haha but Ben Weasel is a shithead and those MOPDTK guys are pretty nice fellows.

yeah, no shit, although I can't see Music Matters doing well with 78s... I have the Hardee/Quebec stuff on Blue Note, but I don't think I have anything else of Hardee's.

Welcome! I would love to pull all of my content as a writer out of AAJ and publish the best stuff on my blog. I truly doubt they'll survive much longer and the interface is just garbage.

it's supposedly good, too...

I thought about grabbing that from Alan's list but I had other priorities (non-record-related). Assume you got it there? Looks like a great record.

Well now, here is a novel approach--actually LISTENING to the album that everyone is discussing so much. I wonder how this discussion may have changed if everyone who has commented on this thread had first heard the album in its entirety.. Totally. I did listen to it before posting. I don't know if I'm "fascinated" by it but it's curious and I agree that it's "different, while being quite the same." Of course I'd reach for any of their other records as individuals or a band before this one, but whatever. Sangrey is definitely right on - the sacred cow has been turned into delicious steaks, eaten, and shit out long ago.

I need to go back to disc one again and play around. Other stuff has taken over my time lately!

Steve Reid played with James Brown and supposedly recorded "Dancing in the Streets" with Martha and the Vandellas. He's known for his work as a drummer with Frank Lowe, Charles Tyler, Arthur Blythe et al.

what does free jazz have to do with MOPDTK's Blue (other than the fact that those guys have played it to varying degrees) ? I think it's pretty clearly not Miles' music, nor will it ever be. I think the point about copying solos is fairly right-on, and I think that studying KOB as a commodity is even more right on. Also, there is the fact that most new jazz recordings are held up to the standard that records like KOB have set. In that case, might as well try and make KOB, right? Kevin I know pretty well, and am acquainted with Jon and Peter. I don't know Moppa or Ron personally. They are all bright guys and pretty sincere musicians, so this release is far from merely a publicity grab (though obviously it would get publicity I think everybody's surprised at the sheer amount). Ballsy move for sure. Just remember that the Jimmy Cobb impression is done by this guy:

the Berger/Ivo Perelman duo is really beautiful. I like Perelman a lot.

Most of the LP is duets between Shepp and Reid. I actually can't find my LP of it for some reason. Listened to some tracks online and it looks like both "Coral Rock" and "Invitation" are the same tune, at least on the CD (and both sound like Blasé to me). The only quartet tune is a ragged "Worried About You." This jibes with what I remember - probably haven't listened to the album in about a decade.

New Karl Berger piano trio is strong. Fonda and Sorgen support. Tzadik in November.

I guess the most recent actually new release from Emanem was the 2012 CD from Haste (feat. the mighty Laubrock ). Looks like Martin has settled back to archival releases since but who knows if that can change. Well, there were some slightly delayed releases of material from Charlotte Hug and Doneda/Coxhill that came around a little later, but I see your point. It usually takes him a couple years to release something once it's been recorded, so we should see at least one or two 2013 recordings next year. Haste is a good one, too. I think they might have a follow-up coming soon.

hadn't heard of Fite until now.

Ah. Thanks. I noticed upthread a comment about "preferring Ronnie" and extrapolated to this question.

Definitely Emanem. A lot of archival stuff for sure, but it's always extremely well-done (as with Nessa - I'll be interested to see if the Bradford/Gjerstad leads to more new recordings coming out on the label). AFAIK Catalytic Sound is a store, but perhaps there will be a label component.

FMP is no longer an active label, unfortunately.

Are any of the Dutch Fontanas super-expensive? I thought they topped out at around $100 (which is 'expensive' but not stratospheric). I have all of them and none were more than that.

"Coral Rock" also gets a shortened version on the Inner City/Carson LP Doodlin'. It's not what I'd call one of Shepp's greats from the period but it is a curious album. Then again I haven't listened to it in years. I'd say the more interesting version is on the America LP, which also contains a nice ensemble take of "I Should Care" (with Shepp on piano).