Yes Jim, I was referring to your Smooth query. . . . I just don't "feel" it as smooth in the phrasing. I feel it more as the sort of beautiful sound that Coltrane got on much of Crescent. Or the smoothness of the sound that Getz and others have polished from Pres. . . . And the phrasing, if indeed Smooth related (an if to me, but then I haven't heard a lot of Smooth, I make shure not to!) would I think be precursor. . . .