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I pre-ordered July 14. Still "shipping soon." I'm guessing the demand exceeded Amazon's estimated supply. It's okay, I'm patient and have so much to listen to/watch.

I've never been a Wendy's fan. Not going to rush off and try one.

Bertrand, Hey Joe was recorded the same night and same set (October 10, second set) as Killin' Floor; I believe it was performed before Killin' Floor. I don't blame you, I'm a Hendrix completist, but there's far more essential Hendrix, and only one track here with Casady. This new box set is missing about two hours of material, mostly yet another version of the same songs, minutes of tuning up, a drum solo or two. They set the box set up in an interesting manner: each of the first three discs has a selection of one of the three nights' work, selected from both sets. The fourth disc has more songs selected from each night, and an interesting interview from another date.

Okay. I can enjoy both approaches. I think the non-correction thing isn't that big a deal in this instance, and especially as these were designed to be "as they were" reissues. I've tried not to sweat the small stuff. Hans, threads drift, evolve, I don't see any harm in that. Glad it served your purpose.

I was surprised last week. I had free shipping (because of 25 dollar and over order) on the new Hendrix releases. I got a shipping order Monday. I received the box set via UPS Wednesday.

Well, I certainly respect your opinion. As I see it the whole point of the series as far as the compilers were concerned was to reproduce the lps as they were released. They did a fantastic job of that, and I think in fact that they purposely reproduced mistakes as they were on liner notes. This was I believe what they felt their market (Japanese only at the start of the series) wanted. I confess I love the way they did the Parker and Young lps on cd. It's a fascinating way to listen to the material. And I really like hearing the Cannonball and Fuller and Harden/Coltrane etc. releases the way they were done rather than say the two cd reissues later done in the US. That's just me I guess. I'm all for someone doing a more comprehensive reissue series of Savoy, but I loved the hell out of that one. I move more and more away from being obsessed about completeness and am happier for it. . . this series is a good example, to and for me, of why I can be happy without everything.

Mine too. Soon is good enough for me.

I know, I didn't quite get that, though I'm happy for some of those such as the Modern Piano one, as they bring to cd light some long unseen alternates.

I think I have the same NAD universal player, as a backup player in the closet right now, and it's quite good sounding. I think FOB is going to have a lot of good listening in the near future.

I listened to some of the bootleg "complete" material of Winterland yesterday. It showed how excellent the sonics of this set are in comparison. Also, Virgil Gonsalez's flute is pretty under-recorded there as well, so I don't think it's just a matter of "mixing." I do wish they hadn't edited a few of the performances, but they did, and as this set is so great-sounding I'll not be visiting the bootleg very often.

Jack Bruce. . . I don't know, I love his singing more than playing, don't think he would have advanced the music much,but it would have been interesting. If Tony and Jimi had played together a lot. . . well Jimi might not have gone the funk route, and fusion would have been different. That might have changed the 'seventies somewhat. Interesting to think about.

Well, you seem to be obsessively compelled to needle! Why is that necessary? Anyway, you once didn't like Jimi and now you do. All I'm saying is there may be something there to the Airplane material that you haven't discovered that you may enjoy. But I understand time management. My opinion is that Casady is the best musician in the Airplane, though I believe Balin is also a very powerful musician and an influence on the SF scene. Too bad we don't have a lot more examples of Casady and Hendrix together. If Casady had held down the bass chair instead of Redding. . . wow. Billy Cox is still my favorite bassist for Jimi, and the funkier side hw helped enable through his history and almost telepathy with Jimi is my favorite of the music, but if Casady had held that bass chair at the beginning there would have been some really interesting material.

Cool! Hope it doesn't skip when the floor is stomped on! It's a lot of fun to have a new player. Gives you a reason to go through a lot of discs!

Okay. I'd invite you to listen a bit more closely, but I know you, and your mind is made up. But you seem to imply there's something wrong with collecting Casady's work, which is . . . annoying.

Jack Casady IS a great musician. I am not a fanatical collector of his work, but I am a fan. Bertrand, he also played on "Hey Joe" at Winterland, but it's not included in this set.

It is not on the bonus disc from amazon, which is a condensation of a Dagger Records release that has been out for some time.

I agree. Very funny, well-made movie.

I'm passing, at least for now. I saw this band several times and my enthusiasm has waned. I have enough of their stuff.

I don't mind if the thread ends. It's been an interesting read. I think I'm closer in viewpoint to Joel's.

These CDs faithfully reproduced the sound of the master tapes, in this respect this was one of the best series. But OTOH they didn't care to consult the Savoy discography, thus failed to add bonus material or correct discographical errors. Some of these play for less than 35 minutes - two LPs on one CD would have been appropriate in most cases. Well .... each to his own. It was a Japanese series, and alternate takes* and "two-fers" were just not part of what they wanted to do. They had the lp artwork well reproduced, they had some of the best digital jazz sound, and they weren't fabulously expensive. They're tops in my book. I'd welcome another series like them done this well. I think it's really silly to think they didn't consult discographies. *And really as time goes by I'm less and less interested in having every second of most material.

Probably more than what you wish to pay, but available, paypal possible: http://jazzrecordrevival.com/html_index.cfm?page=item_page&itemoid=68463

That would be this series (the one with the violet-blue back leaflet with the track listing)? Marked "Nippon Columbia" in my case, though. Edit to confirm that apparently it is (as Mikeweil's post just beat me to it). Too bad we did not jump on these earlier to pass them on later as this series seems to be in demand ... about 10 years ago a lot of these were available cheaply at the "2001" shops here. Steve, Nippon-Colubmia and Denon are/were the same company or closely affiliated; the cds were released by Denon in Japan and the US before the more recent WEA series of cds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon_Columbia I collected these as they came out in the US in the nineties as well as buying some of the Japanese imports that did not see US release. I have nearly all released, having passed over some of the gospel and blues ones. One of the best reissues series on cd ever, imo.

Well, the balance between r-section and front line is certainly different on these in comparison to the Prestige, BN, etc. But that seems to be a producer's choice. . . or may be. Anyway to say they are inaudible, muddy etc. . . NOT on my system. That's all I can say. I hear the balance difference, but the recorded quality seems to come out just fine on my system. I agree the music is great. Anyway, sorry Hans, didn't mean to steer the thread elsewhere really. Hope someone comes through for you. Unfortunately I only have one copy and won't part with it.

I beg to differ, I enjoy the sound of many Savoy recordings. RVG recorded them a bit differently, but there are many with great sound. Just my opinion of course. I love the way the horns czn have a huge, almost supernatural sound and image on some of the Savoy stereo sides (for example some of the Hardin-Coltrane and the Curtis fuller session with Lateef.) I find the Denon cd series of Savoy titles to be very good sounding.

Yes, that's right. http://www.jimihendrix.com/us/music/winterland-4cd-and-8lp-box-sets