jazzbo

Why not go peruse the Hoffman classifieds? Lot of those folks covered their bases and put in multiple orders --seems like there's a box an hour being offered up for sale. There's one member here who has two sets. . .maybe he'll step up and PM you?

The stereo versions of both Help! and Rubber Soul in the Mono box (which are added to the mono CDs) have the original 1965 mixes, while the individual remasters and the ones in the Stereo box have the 1987 mixes. Long story... There are hundreds of threads (well, at least it looks that way ) about everything concerning these Beatles remasters on the Steve Hoffman forum. Yeah, but some of us don't want to go there!

Yeah I've been happy to see some nostalgic reminiscences here! For those of us of a certain age, this music really is intertwined. World, no, my copy was a different EP, this one:

Well, the lps that made it to the one store that I shopped at in M'Babane when I could were mono. I was buying these 1968 to 1970. Also, I was given a lot of lps by Peace Corps volunteers (my father was the Director of the Peace Corps program there) that were given to volunteers in a sort of "care package." All these were mono, I guess that makes sense, most seemed to be Atlantic Records. Among them were albums that got me totally interested in jazz such as Leo Wright's "Blues Shout" and "Thomas Bell and the Contemporary Jazz Quartet" (both excellent albums). One of the poignant times of that period of my life was when my Dad returned to the States to attend some supposedly important meetings in D.C.; he was gone almost a week. This really unsettled my Mom for the week, she didn't like being in a foreign company alone with her four children . . .she tended to be nervous in those days. I had given my Dad all the money I had (from "allowances" mostly i think) to buy some lps for me in the US while he was there. . . he came back with Sgt. Pepper's (mono) and Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme (my first stereo record). My first Beatles was the EP with "Baby You Can Drive my Car."

Actually, most of my serious listening to the Beatles has been on mono lps bought in Swazliand. The only ones I seem to still have, not listened to for a long time, are Pepper's and the Parlophone lp that became Past Masters Vol. 2 eventually. Someone made off with my Beatles two lp set years and years ago, I really liked that one.

Actually I think Allen's post reflected what's happening in this thread!

Allen, some good posts today. You're "on."

I know it's fun to mock American Idol, but it was my wife's favorite show, and I have to say it made a previously amusical person really interested in music, understand music better, and begin to understand both my jazz and rock and blues and Brazilian and classical collecting fascination, and my stereo system preoccupation. I was negative about the show and regretted her interest at first but I found positive results in what she got out of the show, and the show itself. And there were indeed quite a few decent singers to emerge from this show. Jennifer Hudson in particular. I watched her and felt she should have won her season, but she's gone on to win an Oscar, and in my opinion deservedly so. Anyway, I haven't watched the show consistently since my wife passed away, it's been hard to. But I think that Ellen will really bring an improvement to the show.

Oh, I know, but not even those should ever be destroyed. Manufacturing plants. . . they almost always need space. Have you ever worked in one that didn't? I haven't. I've worked in a few. If they know that they are no longer going to be pressing any of these items for contractual reasons, I can easily see that they would toss them to make room. If they received no other instructions. . . poof. It's not their problem. It looks as if it is EMI's pressing plants that changed. They obviously didn't arrange for their masters to be transported away. . .or these masters and components. If it's "tens of thousands" of items pressed here they occupied a lot of space, and the plant needed to clear it. At that end of the chain few are thinking up the chain is my guess. To us these things are art, entertainment, but at that point it's just a job and the next job. It might have been a big job to remove all these items and mistakes were made, communication mistakes etc.

You know I think that for a company like Mosaic the cost of all those "components" (the printing of runs of booklets and tray art etc.) and recreating a glass master (not sure if they'd have to remaster from sour tapes or not) is just something that they likely are not able to afford to do to redo these sets. Seems that they'll be adversely affected by this, and may not have been in happy circumstances before this . . . I wish them the best. I'd order up . . . except I already have all that is in print except for one Select, not on this list. I'll get that soon (the Matthews, not really that interested, but I'll try it again---I have heard it.)

I'm with you Greg, and yes we have.

That is a shame. . . indeed. Poor Freddie Slack!

Wonderful player! Love his sound.

I believe those four asterisked songs are the mono versions from Yellow Submarine not otherwise on other cds in the collection.

I think there's a possibility that those four tunes mono mixes are on "Mono Masters." (?)

You can order the Mono box from Amazon US again. . . 230 bucks.

Personally, I'd rather have a cd release than a download, I haven't doen BTs yet and don't inted to start. I feel sort of bad buying these from the pirates, but. . . I still buy some.

This movie looks fantastic on Blu-Ray!

Okay guys, I'm still unconvinced, but that's okay. I know how deep the layers of the onion of jsazz trading can be, I mean there are a lot of people holding tapes and cdrs and files of these and they could have gotten the tapes of these people rather than from the sites,. It doesn't really matter. They don't really have the right to put them on cd anymore than others have the right to put them on dime, it's all pirating. Too bad the world doesn't work differently and these can be released legitimately and artists/heirs benefit.

"Life" (NBC) Season 2

Interesting information about EMI's projected revenue and their "drop in the bucket" impact: The album sales will do little to clear debt at Terra Firma Capital Partners Ltd., the owner of EMI Group Plc -- the record label with rights to the music. The London-based buyout firm owned by Guy Hands, which bought London-based EMI in August 2007 for 2.4 billion pounds, has written off half its investment and injected 28 million pounds to prevent a breach of debt covenants. “The scale of problems at EMI are so significant that the Beatles release is not going to make a material impact,” said Claire Enders, chief executive officer of London-based media researcher Enders Analysis Ltd. “It cannot budge the needle that much given the billions of pounds of debt it’s carrying.” The Beatles’ releases could increase EMI’s revenue by 5 percent to 10 percent and help retailers ahead of the Christmas season, Enders said. The Beatles have sold more than 1 billion albums worldwide, according to EMI, whose 2008 sales totaled 1.07 billion pounds. “It’s a good thing for EMI just to keep chugging away and exploiting its catalogue,” Enders said. “The recycling of the Beatles is something that occurs on a regular basis and this is a big play on the nostalgia market.” From: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=aIT1HEXKk9qc

Not necessarily. I get the impression that RLR is actually putting out things from collectors' holdings, things that are "rare live recordings" especially to those who live in a non-bit torrent world (i.e. older fans than you and I Dan). When I've compared some material to earlier sources they sound similar, and I'm not positive they've been sourced from bit-torrent but perhaps from earlier-copy-generation collectors' tapes.

An amazing player. There are lots of crappy looking Arbor Jazz covers, but they don't represent the quality of the music within! I may pick this one up.

I love the HDCD remasters of the GD too, but I don't really hear a siginifican difference from one good player to the next, HDCD decoding or not. Don't think HDCD would cause any real marketing/sales problems, but I wouldn't call the sonic benefit near that of SACD. In these sort of numbers I don't think SACD would HAVE to be that much more expensive to the consumer. . . but EMI may have a different idea. . . .

Updated. Thanks James!