Cliff Englewood

I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly. Me too! That's a great album and kudos to Mosaic for reissuing it. I can't comment on the Wein album as I don't own that one. I think JAW's point was not that these aren't good albums--they are--but that they're odd choices, and I have to concur on that point. There are some odd choices among those singles even by the "more established" artists. I was surprised by the J. J. Johnson choice, for example, because there was some really good jazz stuff he recorded in his other RCA albums (especially "The Total J. J. Johnson") that had to be left out. Likewise, while "Woody's Winners" is a great album, Woody's Columbia material would have made a fine select. greg mo Eh, it wasn't JAW's point, it was my point, well sort of. If your re-issueing stuff to what is an already very limited market and charging top $ for it, surely your criteria should not be albums that happen to be obscure yet are available for release and then talked up to a point to make them seem a definitive release. The Art Farmer Single was a good idea, the Art Blakey Single, not so sure, although now that I've typed that I know someone is going to say it's his best album. You're right though, the choices are odd and it's more than likely why they haven't had the sales they were hoping for with the Singles series and have stopped releaseing them. Not withstanding 3 or 4 people on a Jazz message board of course. :rolleyes: I get the impression that Mosaic thought their customers will go for anything as long as it has the "Mosaic" name on it. They are right to a certin extent, there's a few of those customers on here. I'm not naming names though. :w My bad. I confused posters. Hope NEITHER of you is too insulted! greg mo You'll be hearing from my team of Lawyers in due course.

I had a funny feeling you'd fold. :rhappy: I have not as of yet. As a kid I had the Hunter Davies book The Beatles which was written before they broke up. I now have: The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions: The Official Story of the Abbey Road by Mark Lewisohn A Hard Day's Write : The Stories Behind Every Beatles Song by Steve Turner Anthology (which should be called Mythology but makes a nice coffee table book) The Beatles: The Biography by Bob Spitz I think the Spitz and Lewisohn are two that offer good insight without a lot of personal interpretation by the authors. Here, There and Everywhere: My Life Recording the Music of the Beatles by Geoff Emerick and Howard Massey looks like a good read that I want to check out. I don't know if it's still in print, but I always loved this book: Nobody recommending "Revelution In The Head"????? :unsure: I think it's amazing.

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I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly. Me too! That's a great album and kudos to Mosaic for reissuing it. I can't comment on the Wein album as I don't own that one. I think JAW's point was not that these aren't good albums--they are--but that they're odd choices, and I have to concur on that point. There are some odd choices among those singles even by the "more established" artists. I was surprised by the J. J. Johnson choice, for example, because there was some really good jazz stuff he recorded in his other RCA albums (especially "The Total J. J. Johnson") that had to be left out. Likewise, while "Woody's Winners" is a great album, Woody's Columbia material would have made a fine select. greg mo Eh, it wasn't JAW's point, it was my point, well sort of. If your re-issueing stuff to what is an already very limited market and charging top $ for it, surely your criteria should not be albums that happen to be obscure yet are available for release and then talked up to a point to make them seem a definitive release. The Art Farmer Single was a good idea, the Art Blakey Single, not so sure, although now that I've typed that I know someone is going to say it's his best album. You're right though, the choices are odd and it's more than likely why they haven't had the sales they were hoping for with the Singles series and have stopped releaseing them. Not withstanding 3 or 4 people on a Jazz message board of course. :rolleyes: I get the impression that Mosaic thought their customers will go for anything as long as it has the "Mosaic" name on it. They are right to a certin extent, there's a few of those customers on here. I'm not naming names though. :w

I know what you mean. The Beatlemaniac in me that's been suppressed for the last 20-odd years has broken free and I feel like I'm hearing this music fresh for the first time all over again. Only this time, I have a passenger: my son, who is also enjoying all of this to no end! We also have Rock Band Beatles and have yet to get tired of playing those songs, despite the fact that we've played them at least ten times each. I know what you mean, although I really thought I was done with the Fab Four, used to listen to them a lot 10 years ago. I was always curious about the Mono stuff just because those in the know used to swear by them. Listening to Pepper in Mono proves the point, "She's Leaving" is just kinda mind blowing, I never really liked the song before, always though it was too sappy but it just works for me now. BTW, I dug out "Revolution in the Head" again and was flicking through it while giving the White Album a spin, I had totally forgot how bitchy Ian Macdonald could be about some of the tunes.

I went into this with only a passing interest in the stereo remasters, I was more interested in the mono stuff, but to my surprise the stereo set is just fantastic. Even my missus commented on the sound quality and she's usually into Brahms and Rachmaninoff . OK, that's not helping me, or what's left of my bank balance, not helping at all. :tophat:

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That Mosaic Contemporary website is just bizarre. They'd maybe have done themselves a favor with the Braxton to exclude the Four Orchestras thing and sell it as a snappier, easier-to-shift 6 CD set. I agree about the big-name big boxes, though not about Selects which I can't quite be bothered with. The big boxes suffer a little in some cases from incompleteness, which annoys collectors, and in some cases from the terrible booklet texts. But when big-name sets come out they go on everybody's wishlist, and, as you say, unlike George Wein, that is a huge plus. Yea, I checked the Mosaic Contemporary website when I was typing my post and it is, as the Trailer Park Boys would no doubt say, fucked in the head!!!. It also looks like they have already bailed on it.

Turning off the signatures was definitely a good move for me! Turning off signatures is essential. You see enough pretentious shite in the world as it is.

The Mono versions of Revolver and Peppers are just amazing. I never really liked Peppers all that much for some strange reason but the Mono version just did something for me. I am already reconsidering my decision not to get the Stereo box because I just know I'm going to want to hear all the Stereo versions in the end. It really is "put a smile on your face" kinda music. :g

Thanks for the link, never saw this site before.

I saw that match at a soccer pub in Chicago. The place was packed with Gunner fans and I don't know if I've ever heard Gunner fans scream and curse so much as they did every time Adebayor came up on the screen. My Villans won their derby this afternoon. I'm happy. I really missed the piss and vinegar of the League after watching the bland Internationals. The Adebayor thing or MADebayor thing, was bound to happen but I didn't think to such a degree. He is going to get banned for a long time, there is talk of 4 to 6 games maybe, both for the stamp and inciting the crowd. If there was so much ill feeling between him and most of the Arsenal squad you wonder what Wenger was thinking by keeping him there last season. It was a good weekend though, loads of goals including Israel's angry man and B. Goren's favorite getting a hat-trick.

I don't want to sound harsh but if Mosaic is experiencing problems, either because of the recent disaster or because of the general shitness of the economy in general, I can't help but feel they brought a little of it on themselves. I know every business needs to grow to suceed but things like Mosaic Contemporary and going back to producing Vinyl didn't seem to me to be great ideas. The Complete Thelonious Monk At The It Club for $100 doesn't really make sense even in the good times. And although Mosaic Singles was a good idea, some of the choices seemed a little strange, did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City? I know they are limited in what the can do with regards to licences and what the majors will let them have but when you're charging top dollar for a single cd surely there must be more inspiried stuff than this? Judging by the majority of the recent big sets they were going for artists with a bit more universal appeal, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman, Oscar Peterson etc rather than or indeed to help pay for the Anthony Braxton type sets. I do like the big boxes and the Selects, maybe not as much as I used to, and obviously I want to see them continue but maybe they should stick to doing what they do best, ie the big boxes and the Selects?

I guess most folks already have the 2008 Euro-Sony Original Masters Ellington 1932-1939? Those are 'gray-market' in the USA for exactly the same copyright/royalty issues as affects 'Andorran' imports or 'Euro-Mosaics', so some may have scruples. If you can find one though they are dirt-cheap and well worth a few $$$ investment as a bulwark against the non-emergence of the proposed Mosaic 10CD epic. I don't think the Original Masters Ellington 1932-1939 was ever a "grey" market release and it has since gone OOP. There is a new one avaiable for £179.39 on Amazon.co.uk though.

Thanks for that, I think I'll skip the stereo box then and just get a few of the later albums in the single disc format. I went for the Mono box and even though it's very expensive it is worth it. Really well done overall. I sampled the first few of the early albums and was very impressed, as previously I had only really listened to "Rubber Soul" onwards. The early stuff is what it is, nice pop music and some covers but some of the singing is just great. Also the guitar solo on "A Hard Days Night" might just be the most perfect guitar solo. In short, the hype about the mono box, and indeed mono Fab Four, is correct, well worth getting. IMHO.

Does the Stereo set have the little docs on the end of each disc???

I know this part of the Board is called "Miscellaneous - Non-Political", but Jesus Fuckin Christ, American Idol???

Sounds like I might be spending money I don't really have on something I don't really need but would knda like. :rolleyes: The Mono box is €250 in HMV over here and Tower have it for €270, I think. Nice review of the Mono Box from AMG; The Beatles: Mono Box Set

That's about the size of it all right.

I'd like to hear more about the Mono box, are the mixes really that different/worth it. I've never heard any of them.

Not anymore he doesn't. I was selling stuff I can do without for a while or that I have in other forms and the Pepper fell into this category, I would have bought it again before it went OOP, but since it has just disappeared of the face of the planet at the flick of a switch(maybe literally), I think I will hold on to it. This really does suck big things, but as they say shit happens. :unsure:

That is probably the biggest crock of shit Microsoft has ever come up with, none of their products are ever really backward compatible. I'm sticking with XP though, better the devil you know.

I doubt if Gaël Kakuta worth it. Well he's not worth it now anyway, that's for sure but all the big clubs do this kind of thing and get away with it. I will be very suprised if this actually sticks, Chelski will appeal and probably get a fine and a warning or something like that.

Thanks for the link but the blurb doesn't give all that much info, ie like they did here for "Interplay", what are the specific albums contained other than the Garland and the Dameron, for people like me too lazy to look them up. :tophat: "Mal-2" by Mal Waldron "Informal Jazz" by Elmo Hope (in yurp part of the not-quite-twofer "All Star Sessions") the Ammons titles I mentioned above and one by Ray Draper, which I forgot (two tracks of that one were previously available as bonus tracks on another "The Believer", which is on the "Fearless Leader") Thanks for that, but it looks like I'll pass on this one for the same reason I passed on "Interplay", I have most of it already on single discs. I have "Fearless Leader" though and it is a really well put together set and I presume that "Interplay" and "Side-Steps" are/will be of a similar high quality.