Claude

Thanks, I don't have toys at home, but I could hide money in some of my 4000 CDs' jewel cases My neighbour's appartment was burglared last year. She (an elderly woman) always keeps money at home. It was in an enveloppe on a desk. The burglar didn't take it, but he searched all the drawers of the desk. He also missed an expensive piece of jewelery that she had received the night before and that was lying open on table in a spare bedroom, whose door was open. The only thing he took was an old wedding ring of her parents, which had mainly emotional value and some very cheap jewelery. I never keep larger sums of money at home, but the idea of leaving a smaller sum for a burglar to go away quickly and not search the whole place seems like a good idea.

This quote attributed to Hatto now seems kind of ironic: http://www.musicweb-international.com/clas..._recordings.htm

Not really. "Thread crapping" is when somebody posts an opinion which is off-topic or suggests that the subject of the thread isn't worth discussing. So when someone opens a thread asking about the sound of a recording, and someone else answers that sound quality doesn't matter because the music is so great, that's "thread crapping", although the term may be too gross for what happened in this thread. BTW, we're still miles away from the discussions on the "other forum", where they are are comparing 43 different pressings of "Dark side of the moon" ...

I fully agree with that, as long as you don't write reviews in which you state that the new CD is the best sounding version. In that case you should have done comparisions beforehand, because some readers will rely on your judgement.

http://www.audaud.com/article.php?ArticleID=2458 Nice writing, but what does it say? I have the DCC version of this disc, and it doesn't sound muddy it all (nor does it sound bright). I've heard a few Prestige RVG editions, and some sounded too compressed indeed. Compression is something that some people with limited listening time or equipment often don't notice. It gets fatigueing in the long run. When it comes to the sound of reissues, I've found that commercial publications cannot be trusted. They ALWAYS prefer the newest editions. Maybe they cannot allow themselves to be critical about the sound, as their income depends on advertisement (notice that Audiophile Audition has a banner ad for the RVG series). When something's wrong with the sound, you'll have to read between the lines of the review to find it out. If a disc gets 3 stars for the sound (in a scale of 5), it means that it is unlistenable Audiophile Auditition has this typical american cheerleading reviewing style (which has now been taken over by the european hif press as well) which makes for entertaining reading, but is not useful as a buying guide (I know that hifi components should never be bought based on reviews alone). Every product gets a clear recommendation, it's only the degree of enthusiasm of the reviewer that varies. So every buyer of the product will be comforted in his purchasing decision. Jackie McLean - 4, 5, 6: http://www.audaud.com/article.php?ArticleID=2456 This album was previously (in 2001) reissued as a K2 remaster. A comparision between those 2 CDs would have been most useful. Sonny Rollins - Plus 4: http://www.audaud.com/article.php?ArticleID=2407 Better than the MFSL SACD? Reviewer John Henry at least tried to substantiate his claims with a listening comparision in his "Cookin'" review (but he was lacking the necessary editions of this session do do a proper A/B comparision): http://www.audaud.com/article.php?ArticleID=2392

I'll do my best I now use this link to do my shopping: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/aff_search.php

Jim, is there a referrer link for Amazon sites that can be clicked before doing a search on the Amazon site itself? Like with CD Universe. I´m currently buying lots of DVDs on Amazon.de and .co.uk , but I don't know how to search for them with the forum search mask, which seems to work with music items only. Or is it possible to do a random search to get the referrer credit and then switch to the movie search on the Amazon site? I would like to make Org benefit from these purchases, even if it takes a few more mouse clicks

I don't think any recording engineer recorded a session in a way to make it sound good on the playback equipment available at the time. What they did was change the sound during the mastering of the vinyl record. So the LP sounded different from the tape. Under these conditions, Hoffman is right to try to transfer the original recording tape to CD or LP as faithfully as possible, because the tape sounds closest to the actual recording, although it may differ from the sound that people can hear on the original pressings.

Depending on which OJC pressing you have, it may have been made from the same digital transfer used for the OJC CD and therefore include the same defects.

The italian store Jazzos is offering the complete Philology catalogue at a reasonable price (13.30€/CD). I haven't dealt with them yet. http://www.jazzos.com

But your kids will again hate jazz ! Oh no, I forgot, we jazz snobs have no kids because we don't get laid.

Does anyone here think Copeland is being serious? Check the rest of the discussion on jazz:

It's easier to find with the correct spelling of his last name (Moroder)

I only have the latter The Complete Atlantic Recordings of Lennie Tristano, Lee Konitz & Warne Marsh (#174) Discography Only the first issue of each titles is included in the discography. LENNIE TRISTANO (A) Lee Konitz (as), Lennie Tristano (p), Gene Ramey (b), Art Taylor (d). The Sing Song Room, Confucius Restaurant, NYC, June 11, 1955 set one: April (alt tk) previously unissued Sweet And Lovely SD-2-7006 Background Music - If I Had You LP 1224 Donna Lee (alt tk) previously unissued set two: 4363 317 E. 32 Street SD-2-7006 4364 These Foolish Things LP 1224 4365 'S Wonderful SD-2-7006 4366 You Go To My Head LP 1224 4367 All The Things You Are - set three: Lennie-Bird SD-2-7006 My Melancholy Baby - April - set four: 4360 Pennies In Minor SD-2-7006 4361 Mean To Me - 4362 Confucious Blues - 4368 A Ghost Of A Chance LP 1224 4369 Whispering SD-2-7006 set five: Background Music (alt tk) previously unissued There Will Never Be Another You SD-2-7006 Donna Lee - LENNIE TRISTANO (B) Lennie Tristano (p), Peter Ind (b), Jeff Morton (d). Tristano's home studio, NYC, 1954-55 4359 East Thirty-Second -1 LP 1224 4356 Line Up -1 - 4358 Turkish Mambo -2 - 4357 Requiem -3 - -1 trio with piano part overdubbed -2 two overdubbed piano parts and hi-hat -3 piano solo LENNIE TRISTANO © Lennie Tristano (p). Tristano's home studio, NYC, 1960-61 Becoming SD 1357 C Minor Complex - You Don't Know What Love Is - Deliberation - Scene And Variation: Carol/Tania/Bud - Love Lines - G Minor Complex - LEE KONITZ (D) Lee Konitz (ts), Sal Mosca (p), Peter Ind (b), Dick Scott (d). Van Gelder Studio, Hackensack, New Jersey, September 26, 1956 2247-3 Indiana LP 1258 2248-1 You'd Be So Nice To Come Home To (J) P-6109A 2249-2 Star Eyes LP 1258 2250-1 Nesuhi's Instant - 2251 I Remember You (J) P-6109A 2252-4 All Of Me LP 1258 2253 My Melancholy Baby unissued, master no longer exists 2254 What's New unissued, master no longer exists LEE KONITZ (E) Lee Konitz (as, as & ts -1), Billy Bauer (g), Arnold Fishkind (b), Dick Scott (d). Van Gelder Studio, Hackensack, New Jersey, October 16, 1956 2255 untitled` unissued, master no longer exists 2256-2 Sweet And Lovely LP 1258 2257-4 Cork 'n' Bib - 2258-3 Everything Happens To Me - 2259-1 Kary's Trance -1 - 2260 Joyville unissued, master no longer exists note: Sessions D & E were recorded in stereo and eventually the tunes on LP 1258 were issued in that form. But the balance of the instruments on the mono masters are so superior that we elected to use them in this set. LEE KONITZ (F) Lee Konitz (as, ts-1), Jimmy Rowles (p), Leroy Vinnegar (b), Shelly Manne (d). Capitol Studios, Los Angeles, December 20, 1956 2443-5 The Nearness Of You (J) P-6109A 2444-1 Like Someone In Love previously unissued 2445 Don't Explain (J) P-6109A 2446 Some Of These Days - 2447 Close Your Eyes -1 - LEE KONITZ (G) as above, except December 22, 1956. 2448-7 You're Driving Me Crazy (J) P-6109A 2449 Blues incomplete, rejected 2450 Don't Blame Me (J) P-6109A 2451 The Song Is You unissued, master no longer exists LEE KONITZ (H) Lee Konitz (as), Don Ferrara (tp -1), Billy Bauer (g), Peter Ind (b), Dick Scott (d). The Midway Lounge, Pittsburgh, mid-March, 1957 2566 Straightaway LP 1273 2567 Foolin' Myself - 2568 You Go To My Head - 2569 My Melancholy Baby - 2570 Pennies In Minor -1 - 2571 Sweet And Lovely -1 - 2572 Easy Living - 2573 Midway - note: Several of these performances are truncated at Lee Konitz's election. His reasons are outlined in his original liner notes, found elsewhere in this booklet. LEE KONITZ-WARNE MARSH (I) Lee Konitz (as), Warne Marsh (ts), Sal Mosca (p), Billy Bauer (g), Oscar Pettiford (b), Kenny Clarke (d). Coastal Studios, New York City, June 14, 1955 1573 Two Not One LP 1217 1574 There Will Never Be Another You - 1575 Donna Lee - 1576 Don't Squawk - 1577 Topsy (omit p) - 1578 I Can't Get Started (omit p) - 1579 Background Music - LEE KONITZ-WARNE MARSH (J) same as D except Ronnie Ball replaces Sal Mosca. Coastal Studios, New York City, June 21, 1955 1580 All The Things You Are unissued, master no longer exists 1581 I Saw You Last Night unissued, master no longer exists 1582 Ronnie's Line LP 1217 note: This session has often been dated as June 15, but the original Atlantic log book clearly states that it took place on June 21. WARNE MARSH (K) Warne Marsh (ts), Ronnie Ball (p), Paul Chambers (b), Philly Joe Jones (d). Atlantic Studios, New York City, December 12, 1957 2869 Will You Still Be Mine unissued, master no longer exists 2870 The Best Things In Life unissued, master no longer exists 2871 Too Close For Comfort SD 1291 2872 It's All Right With Me - 2873 Tune Up unissued, master no longer exists WARNE MARSH (L) Warne Marsh (ts), Paul Chambers (b), Paul Motian (d). Atlantic Studios, New York City, January 16, 1958 2908 Yardbird Suite SD 1291 2909 My Melancholy Baby - 2910 Excerpt - 2911 Just Squeeze Me - 2912 unknown title unissued, master no longer exists note: Too Close For Comfort and Excerpt are truncated performances. They appeared in this form on the original album release. Album index: LP 1217 Lee Konitz & Warne Marsh LP 1224 Tristano LP/CD 1258 Lee Konitz Inside Hi-Fi LP 1273 The Real Konitz LP/SD 1291 Warne Marsh LP 1357 The New Tristano (J) P-6109-A Worthwhile Konitz (issued only in Japan) SD-2-7006 The Lennie Tristano Quartet<XC> Original sessions produced by Nesuhi Ertegun (A, D, E, I, J), Lennie Tristano (B, C, K, L) and Lee Konitz (H). Produced for release by Michael Cuscuna Executive producer: Charlie Lourie Recording engineer:Tom Dowd (A, I, J, K, L), Lennie Tristano ©, Rudy Van Gelder (D, E) and Peter Ind (H). Tape transfers and CD mastering: Malcolm Addey LP mastering: Duncan Stanbury, The Master Cutting Room Sessions A, K & L are in stereo. All other sessions are mono. note: timings on live performances reflect the duration of the music only Special thanks to James Austin (Rhino Records), Mark Leviton (Warner Special Markets) and Joey Helguera (Atlantic tape library). Produced Under License From Atlantic Recording Corp. ©1997 Atlantic Recording Corp. ©1997 Mosaic Records, Inc.

This looks like a technical problem. An immediate email confirmation of an online order is required by e-commerce law, and Zweitausendeins sends those confirmations automatically. Usually a couple of days later, they send another email to inform about the status of the order (which items are not available, when they will be shipped, etc).

I'm currently getting some of the great sounding Classic Records DAD discs (DVDs with 24bit/96kHz sound), and this session is on my priority list. http://www.classicrecords.com/catalog/stor...fm?sku=DAD-1024

I think that with the recent vinyl revival, many hifi nuts (i.e. people who are willing to pay over $25 for a reissue of music that is also available much cheaper) listen to both vinyl and CD (or SACD), and as far as reissues go, they are looking for the best sounding version, which mainly depends on the quality of the tape transfer/remastering and not so much on the format. Given the poor remastering of many Blue Note CD reissues, the Classic Records LPs are an interesting alternative also for those who are not generally preferring vinyl, if they have a good vinyl playback setup.

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...ames&id=247

Branford Marsalis

I've been buying many "obscure" OJCs from my wishlist during the past year, to avoid this thing. Usually 3 CDs à $10 with free shipping to Europe at djangos.com . Many are now out of stock though (including "Olio")

Hi Durium, The box is being discussed in this thread: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...c=31538&hl=

Commerciallly sold data CDs with MP3 files have existed before, Zweitausendeins has offered MP3 pop and classical samplers as well as audio-books for the last 2 or 3 years: http://www.zweitausendeins.de/stoebern/?key=MP3 This is not a bad idea, since most DVD players and some CD players now play MP3s, and people can copy the files directly to their portable players, without conversion. Especially for audio books, where sound quality matters less, this saves a lot of space. They have the complete Bible on 8 MP3-CDs (90 hours, i.e. the content of 70 audio CDs)

I have the "Sunset eyes" CD too (found it cheap in a second hand store), listened to it and put it in my "for sale" drawer. I prefer his Contemporary albums.

I bought it from here: http://www.freshsoundrecords.com/record_po...?record_id=4595 (of course it's not "Colour / Stereo") Shipping to the US is 8.5 Euro