Teasing the Korean Posted July 24, 2023 Report Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, HutchFan said: A few days ago, I pulled this album from a local shop's dollar bin: I have all five volumes and like them all (except not so much the last one). In another thread here, some of our European members criticized these albums as an attempt to make jazz "respectable" to European connoisseurs of classical music. But being from the US, I feel that these albums convey the Europe that I was first drawn to as a kid, via 1960s Italian films shown on TV. Quote
HutchFan Posted July 24, 2023 Report Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) More Junior Cook: This is an even better album than Pressure Cooker, I think. The presence of Woody Shaw definitely doesn't hurt. 18 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: I have all five volumes and like them all (except not so much the last one). In another thread here, some of our European members criticized these albums as an attempt to make jazz "respectable" to European connoisseurs of classical music. But being from the US, I feel that these albums convey the Europe that I was first drawn to as a kid, via 1960s Italian films shown on TV. I can understand both perspectives. It certainly isn't regular, garden-variety jazz -- but I think it is interesting music. As you say, it's very much "of its time." 23 minutes ago, bresna said: I have most of this session as part of an odd Affinity CD release called "Stablemates", which combined "Pressure Cooker" (minus the track "The 8th Cat") with George Coleman's "Big George". Yep, I remember seeing that somewhere. It's always a bit of a bummer when they have to lop off a cut to make two LPs fit on one CD. 😬 Edited July 24, 2023 by HutchFan Quote
HutchFan Posted July 24, 2023 Report Posted July 24, 2023 Now spinning: One of Pete Turner's most striking cover images, IMO. And the music is pretty good too. Quote
BillF Posted July 24, 2023 Report Posted July 24, 2023 5 hours ago, HutchFan said: A few days ago, I pulled this album from a local shop's dollar bin: My LP is actually the mono version. I can remember a time when about a third of all "jazz" record sales were of the Jacques Loussier Trio. 🙁 3 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: I have all five volumes and like them all (except not so much the last one). In another thread here, some of our European members criticized these albums as an attempt to make jazz "respectable" to European connoisseurs of classical music. But being from the US, I feel that these albums convey the Europe that I was first drawn to as a kid, via 1960s Italian films shown on TV. Yes, a dash of "classical" always caused sales to rocket, whether via MJQ, Brubeck or Loussier. Meanwhile, I was listening to Bird, Rollins and Trane . . . Quote
HutchFan Posted July 24, 2023 Report Posted July 24, 2023 Taking a trip down to NOLA: New Orleans' Sweet Emma & Her Preservation Hall Jazz Band (Preservation Hall, rec. 1964) Quote
optatio Posted July 24, 2023 Report Posted July 24, 2023 4 hours ago, bresna said: I have most of this session as part of an odd Affinity CD release called "Stablemates", which combined "Pressure Cooker" (minus the track "The 8th Cat") with George Coleman's "Big George". 👍 Quote
HutchFan Posted July 24, 2023 Report Posted July 24, 2023 More Nawlins music: Dejan's Olympia Brass Band Of New Orleans - Here Come Da Great Olympia Band (Preservation Hall, 1974) Fantastic! Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 24, 2023 Report Posted July 24, 2023 54 minutes ago, BillF said: I can remember a time when about a third of all "jazz" record sales were of the Jacques Loussier Trio. 🙁 Yes, a dash of "classical" always caused sales to rocket, whether via MJQ, Brubeck or Loussier. Meanwhile, I was listening to Bird, Rollins and Trane . . . I guess it all depends on where you come from. When I started buying jazz records, all I could find was either fusion or twofer reissues of artists like Bird, Rollins, and Trane. The jazz/classical hybrids were very exotic to me, and not readily obtainable. In another thread, I mentioned that I went for a number of years during which I could not listen to jazz. What led me back to straightahead jazz was my love for the Great American Songbook, and my interest in tangential musics such as Latin and Brazilian music. Oddball hybrid albums like those by Loussier also played a role in bringing me back into straightahead jazz. So in my musical world, it all connects. Quote
HutchFan Posted July 24, 2023 Report Posted July 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: I guess it all depends on where you come from. When I started buying jazz records, all I could find was either fusion or twofer reissues of artists like Bird, Rollins, and Trane. The jazz/classical hybrids were very exotic to me, and not readily obtainable. In another thread, I mentioned that I went for a number of years during which I could not listen to jazz. What led me back to straightahead jazz was my love for the Great American Songbook, and my interest in tangential musics such as Latin and Brazilian music. Oddball hybrid albums like those by Loussier also played a role in bringing me back into straightahead jazz. TtK, Yesterday, I watched a terrific Jackie Stewart documentary on ESPN. I was thinking of you because the soundtrack was made up of VERY Euro-sounding jazz, easy-listening, library music, etc. And Formula 1 racing -- for someone who like me grew up in the U.S. -- is the epitome of hip and glamourous Euro culture. That's Jackie being kissed by his wife, who (of course) looks like a model you'd see on the pages of Vogue. As Stewart peers into the camera's lens, you can almost hear him thinking, "Yeah, you should wish you were me!" I think they're getting ready to go to the Electric Psychedelic Pussycat Lounge. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 24, 2023 Report Posted July 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, HutchFan said: TtK, Yesterday, I watched a terrific Jackie Stewart documentary on ESPN. I was thinking of you because the soundtrack was made up of VERY Euro-sounding jazz, easy-listening, library music, etc. And Formula 1 racing -- for someone who like me grew up in the U.S. -- is the epitome of hip and glamourous Euro culture. Perfect! 👍 Quote
Gheorghe Posted July 25, 2023 Report Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/21/2023 at 10:20 PM, jazzcorner said: EmArCy 20PJ-10090 - Giants Of Jazz - rec. 1972 , Switzerland - Producer: George Wein Play Straight No Chaser / Thelonious / Epistrophy / don't Blame Me / 'll Wait For You / Sweet And Lovely somehow I never could find this. It was for a short time on a mainstream label called Concorde or so, but I never saw it again. I would like to have it since I heard that they play more Monk tunes here. Strange that on the cover photos all musicians seem to be photographed during that time 1972, but the monk photo seems to be much older. As much as I remember, Monk with the Giants didn´t wear a hat anymore. But he still plays in a very creative manner and seemed to respond enthusiastically to Diz composition "Tour de Force" and "Woody´n You". Quote
Pim Posted July 25, 2023 Report Posted July 25, 2023 10 euro’s at amazon…. Now that’s almost what RVG cds used to cost. So it is possible…. Quote
soulpope Posted July 25, 2023 Report Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 1:00 AM, HutchFan said: Next up: McCoy Tyner - Focal Point (Milestone, 1976) Good one .... Quote
jazzcorner Posted July 25, 2023 Report Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, optatio said: Ahh I see you have a different edition 👍😁 9 hours ago, Gheorghe said: The Giants Of Jazz somehow I never could find this. It was for a short time on a mainstream label called Concorde or so, but I never saw it again. I would like to have it since I heard that they play more Monk tunes here. Strange that on the cover photos all musicians seem to be photographed during that time 1972, but the monk photo seems to be much older. As much as I remember, Monk with the Giants didn´t wear a hat anymore. But he still plays in a very creative manner and seemed to respond enthusiastically to Diz composition "Tour de Force" and "Woody´n You". Have also 2 or 3 more from this group on CD / CDr but here is the sond quality not as good as on the vinyls. Edited July 25, 2023 by jazzcorner more pics Quote
Gheorghe Posted July 26, 2023 Report Posted July 26, 2023 11 hours ago, jazzcorner said: Ahh I see you have a different edition 👍😁 Have also 2 or 3 more from this group on CD / CDr but here is the sond quality not as good as on the vinyls. Oh, the Belgrade live set I must have, also for the Dizzy quintet stuff. I had seen the green album "Tour de Force" in a record shop but didn´t buy it since I had some doubts about it: First, in 1969, that George Wein All Star "Giants of Jazz" did not exist, it was a band from the early 70s. And Al Gafa belongs more into another context, he is a leading voice on let´s say "Bahia", Dizzy´s Latin album from the 70´s . The Title "Kush" is a later Diz composition and I don´t think that it was on the "Giants of Jazz" set list. 18 hours ago, optatio said: I have this also, it was in the record store somewhere in the late 70´s or so, or early 80´s . I have it also on USB for listening in the car and I love it. All those tunes are great and it´s wonderfully recorded (I really play it loud to hear Blakey´s drums). But nobody knows when it was recorded. 14 hours ago, Pim said: 10 euro’s at amazon…. Now that’s almost what RVG cds used to cost. So it is possible…. One of my very favourite BN albums of the 60´s . I like all those really powerful modern stuff albums they did in that decade, let´s say Wayne Shorter´s "All Seeing Eye", Don Cherry´s "Complete Communion", McCoy Tyner´s album with Joe Henderson, and so on. I never listen to the more easy listening albums they also made, and all those different more obscure organ players that followed after Jimmy Smith´s leaving the label. The only organ I can stand is Larry Young´s , he does not play that typical "Hammond Sound", he plays modal jazz and plays with the guys, the heavy guys like Sam Rivers, Woody Shaw, Joe Henderson and above all Elvin Jones. Quote
jazzcorner Posted July 26, 2023 Report Posted July 26, 2023 51 minutes ago, Gheorghe said: Oh, the Belgrade live set I must have, also for the Dizzy quintet stuff. I had seen the green album "Tour de Force" in a record shop but didn´t buy it since I had some doubts about it: First, in 1969, that George Wein All Star "Giants of Jazz" did not exist, it was a band from the early 70s. And Al Gafa belongs more into another context, he is a leading voice on let´s say "Bahia", Dizzy´s Latin album from the 70´s . The Title "Kush" is a later Diz composition and I don´t think that it was on the "Giants of Jazz" set list. I have this also, it was in the record store somewhere in the late 70´s or so, or early 80´s . I have it also on USB for listening in the car and I love it. All those tunes are great and it´s wonderfully recorded (I really play it loud to hear Blakey´s drums). But nobody knows when it was recorded. bop fathers [G1765-15] Bop Fathers, Vol. 1 & 2: Dizzy Gillespie (tp,p-1) Kai Winding (tb) Sonny Stitt (as,ts) Thelonious Monk (p) Al McKibbon (b) Art Blakey (d) Concert "Sala Grande del Conservatorio Giuseppe Verdi", Milan, Italy, October 20, 1971 I mean you Orizzonte (It)ORL8252, LPPS1114, Joker(It)ULS141/2 'Round midnight - - - Tour de force - - - Tin tin deo (1) - - - Lover man (*) - Woody'n you (*) - Don't blame me (*) - A night in Tunisia - Note: Information on the record sleeve gives date incorrectly as Paris, France, October 22, 1971. Joker (It)ULS141/2 titled "Bop Fathers, Vol. 1 & 2". (*) These 3 titles also on Moon (It)CD006 [CD] titled "Stars of Bop - Tour De Force"; see November 19, 1974 for rest of CD. All above titles also on Gambit (And)69301 [CD] titled "Dizzy Gillespie and Thelonious Monk with The Giants of Jazz, Unissued in Europe 1971"; see October 29 & November 7, 1971 for rest of CD. For a session from November 2, 1971 see Dizzy Gillespie. Quote
Gheorghe Posted July 26, 2023 Report Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, jazzcorner said: bop fathers [G1765-15] Bop Fathers, Vol. 1 & 2: Dizzy Gillespie (tp,p-1) Kai Winding (tb) Sonny Stitt (as,ts) Thelonious Monk (p) Al McKibbon (b) Art Blakey (d) Concert "Sala Grande del Conservatorio Giuseppe Verdi", Milan, Italy, October 20, 1971 I mean you Orizzonte (It)ORL8252, LPPS1114, Joker(It)ULS141/2 'Round midnight - - - Tour de force - - - Tin tin deo (1) - - - Lover man (*) - Woody'n you (*) - Don't blame me (*) - A night in Tunisia - Note: Information on the record sleeve gives date incorrectly as Paris, France, October 22, 1971. Joker (It)ULS141/2 titled "Bop Fathers, Vol. 1 & 2". (*) These 3 titles also on Moon (It)CD006 [CD] titled "Stars of Bop - Tour De Force"; see November 19, 1974 for rest of CD. All above titles also on Gambit (And)69301 [CD] titled "Dizzy Gillespie and Thelonious Monk with The Giants of Jazz, Unissued in Europe 1971"; see October 29 & November 7, 1971 for rest of CD. For a session from November 2, 1971 see Dizzy Gillespie. Thank you for your help ! Quote
mjazzg Posted July 26, 2023 Report Posted July 26, 2023 55 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: Ready for the afternoon - I might just get my copy out for the evening here, thanks for the reminder Quote
mjazzg Posted July 26, 2023 Report Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Chuck Nessa said: Ready for the afternoon - Playing it now. I've only seen Lovens play live once, with the Schlippenbach Trio, and it was a completely fascinating experience Quote
sidewinder Posted July 26, 2023 Report Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) Thought this 2LP set looked interesting - everything from Clark/Boland to Placebo. Board member Clifford gets a credit on the inner sleeve. Edited July 26, 2023 by sidewinder Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 26, 2023 Report Posted July 26, 2023 yeah, I've proofread the notes for a few of Lander's comps. They're all quite fascinating musically and the notes themselves are a real education! Re: Lovens, saw him twice -- once with the Schlippenbach Trio and once with 2X3=5 (Parker/Guy/Lytton/Lovens/Schlippenbach). Both concerts were amazing. Most of my Schlippenbach experiences have been with Lytton or as a solo pianist, but the OG Trio is really on another level. Quote
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