JohnS Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 This set is a real treasure. Despite the shortcomings already mentioned my recommendation is buy it. I've played as much if not more than anything I've bought recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryan Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 (edited) Terry makes a gross error at the start of that review clip when she mentions that Carmell, after returning to the US, died in 1966. Edited April 16, 2003 by pryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Highlights of the set for me are the comping of FS and Gary Peacock in general. A wonderful set for fans of all the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatifan Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Sorry to pull this topic back from the dead, but I've just picked this set up. I noticed that Mosaic has changed the track order for at least the first album -- I sure wish they wouldn't do this. Clearly "Night Tide" would make a much more effective and sensible ending to the album than "Full Moon and Empty Arms". The original liner notes give the original order, but this is not always the case. Are the other Mosaic Selects jumbled to give us SESSION rather than ALBUM order? I really dislike this Mosaic policy in the Jimmy Giuffre box -- those albums were very carefully ordered, and Mosaic destroys this in a misplaced nod to the discographically inclined! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatifan Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 (edited) Sorry to pull this topic back from the dead, but I've just picked this set up. I noticed that Mosaic has changed the track order for at least the first album -- I sure wish they wouldn't do this. Clearly "Night Tide" would make a much more effective and sensible ending to the album than "Full Moon and Empty Arms". The original liner notes give the original order, but this is not always the case. Are the other Mosaic Selects jumbled to give us SESSION rather than ALBUM order? I really dislike this Mosaic policy in the Jimmy Giuffre box -- those albums were very carefully ordered, and Mosaic destroys this in a misplaced nod to the discographically inclined! Whoa! Don't know how part of this post ended up in the one above! Edited August 21, 2004 by tatifan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Sorry to pull this topic back from the dead, but I've just picked this set up. I noticed that Mosaic has changed the track order for at least the first album -- I sure wish they wouldn't do this. Clearly "Night Tide" would make a much more effective and sensible ending to the album than "Full Moon and Empty Arms". The original liner notes give the original order, but this is not always the case. Are the other Mosaic Selects jumbled to give us SESSION rather than ALBUM order? I really dislike this Mosaic policy in the Jimmy Giuffre box -- those albums were very carefully ordered, and Mosaic destroys this in a misplaced nod to the discographically inclined! Yes, unfortunately, Mosaic has had a marked tendency to do this since the beginning. On some more recent sets they've bowed to album-order due to popular sentiment (meaning complaints over the years) but clearly their hearts belong in sessionland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesbed Posted August 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 The version of Angel Eyes, with Carmell Jones and Tricky Lofton, kills me every time. I must start life anew and learn everything all over again each time this song finds its end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Sorry to pull this topic back from the dead, but I've just picked this set up. I noticed that Mosaic has changed the track order for at least the first album -- I sure wish they wouldn't do this. Clearly "Night Tide" would make a much more effective and sensible ending to the album than "Full Moon and Empty Arms". The original liner notes give the original order, but this is not always the case. Are the other Mosaic Selects jumbled to give us SESSION rather than ALBUM order? I really dislike this Mosaic policy in the Jimmy Giuffre box -- those albums were very carefully ordered, and Mosaic destroys this in a misplaced nod to the discographically inclined! Yes, unfortunately, Mosaic has had a marked tendency to do this since the beginning. On some more recent sets they've bowed to album-order due to popular sentiment (meaning complaints over the years) but clearly their hearts belong in sessionland. I wholly agree that, for music recorded in the LP era, album order (and not recording order) should be observed. If the artist (or the producer) decided to put the tracks in a specific order, let´s hear it like this! And pleeeeeaze (and this Mosaic does respect, AFAIK), alternate tracks ---> at the end of the disc. Otherwise, I have to use the programming function on my CD player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.D. Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 (edited) To each his own.. I prefer the alternates where they belong chronologically.. "otherwise I have to use the programming function of my CD player" Also track sequence on an LP was generally governed more by the playing time, than an album " concept" by prodger and or artist.. there are exceptions. There was many a good track left off the album because it would be detrimental to the playing time of the LP.. but I conceed that in this case.. one man's meat..... But Damn it Eke I'm older than you.. and the complexity of Cd ( or VHS) programming is beyond my senile grasp.. so I know better....... and therefore should be pandered to. Mosaic had better get their act tohether in this respect or I shall take my $$$$'s elswhere........ Edited August 26, 2004 by P.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 To each his own.. I prefer the alternates where they belong chronologically.. "otherwise I have to use the programming function of my CD player" I prefer them "chronogically", as in our beloved French label... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Mosaic had better get their act tohether in this respect or I shall take my $$$$'s elswhere........ I solemnly affirm that, with your current Mosaic collection, they can count themselves lucky! But, if you´re not happy with any of your OOP boxes due to tracking order, I would generously offer you a few bucks for them (say, four or five dollars for each CD)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 (edited) Since these days I never have time to listen to a whole CD (let alone album side!) in one sitting, I prefer the alternates at the end of discs...there's just no way I'm going to really truly be able to follow the sequential developments of a whole recording session UNLESS it's a very short one (e.g. some of the swing era and before dates where they layed down 3-4 brief tracks and called it a day). As for order of original LP tracks - it depends. For truly classic LPs where the sequence mattered - where the whole concept hinges on a running order/flow - I like them kept as is. But for most jazz dates, honestly I don't think it matters much (not a criticism but that wasn't what the music was about before "concept" LPs became vogue) and I could care less what the order is. Edited August 26, 2004 by DrJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 If anyone still needs a copy of this fantastic set, there's currently an algorithmic race to the bottom happening on ebay-- 3 copies at $16-$17 each, free shipping. One is ex-libris, but the other two are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 Wow. Snag it if you don’t have it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 Only the withdrawn library one is left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 Yeah. That's a nice set. Haven't listened to it in a while. Oughta give it a spin sometime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesnik Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 16 hours ago, BFrank said: Yeah. That's a nice set. Haven't listened to it in a while. Oughta give it a spin sometime soon. Yes, a very, very nice one. I got it recentlish (maybe last year) and like it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 16 hours ago, BFrank said: Yeah. That's a nice set. Haven't listened to it in a while. Oughta give it a spin sometime soon. I should too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 I snagged one. Let me know if anybody needs it, I have a backup. Carmell Jones, Bobby Watson, Nathan Davis, all Kansas City guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 And not "just" Carmell, you get some Gerald Wilson sessions, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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