jazzbo Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 I don't dig that one at all. . . . started me on a "Nelson bugs me" spiral! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 This one deserves to be on CD: ← Won't that be part of the Mosaic? ← It's got a string quartet, so I don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Yes it will be in the Mosaic set. This will be one of the few complete LP's on this set much to my regret (that rhymes!!). And not all of the Nelson BB tracks with SMith and Scott are included either. If MC answers my questions about this I'll let you know the reasons behind this (they must be very logical but I can't see them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 MC's response was: stricktly big band personnel (trumpets, trombones, saxes + rhythm) so that's why the other sessions are left out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 I'd be more enthusiastic about this set if it included the Flying Dutchman Black Brown & Beautiful. Does Cuscuna have ANY pull w/the RCA folks? Are there any left to pull? ← We have a vinyl set of it here at the station and you're right, Jim, it's excellent.← Just to make sure - you're talking about the FD original with the "full frontal" cover, not the RCA/Bluebird reissue of the same name but totally different contents, right? Finally found a scan of the "full frontal" cover: http://www.dougpayne.com/onbbb1.jpg Not quite full frontal, but close enough... Why this cover was selected for this album is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 You jest, of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted December 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 got a question for you Oliver Nelson experts... I bought the single OJC CD "Afro-American Sketches" since it was a record around the time of the Mosaic set... I like it a lot and was wondering - Will the Mosaic set be much different than this CD?... I know (at least AMG) has mixed reviews of the individual LP's.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 got a question for you Oliver Nelson experts... I bought the single OJC CD "Afro-American Sketches" since it was a record around the time of the Mosaic set... I like it a lot and was wondering - Will the Mosaic set be much different than this CD?... I know (at least AMG) has mixed reviews of the individual LP's.... The material on the Mosaic is slicker, less "rough and ready". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted December 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Slicker??? (As in tight arrangements, compositions and playing... ALA Benny Golson??? [i know Golson didn't do big bands but I'm trying to understand your concept... with a point of reference...) got a question for you Oliver Nelson experts... I bought the single OJC CD "Afro-American Sketches" since it was a record around the time of the Mosaic set... I like it a lot and was wondering - Will the Mosaic set be much different than this CD?... I know (at least AMG) has mixed reviews of the individual LP's.... The material on the Mosaic is slicker, less "rough and ready". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Nelson Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 If you MUST ask about Nelson on Impulse -- follow these directions: Take one copy of 'Blues and the Abstract Truth' aurally at night. If dizzyness persists, then call your doctor in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montg Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I'm looking forward to this set. I've wanted to hear the Pee Wee Russell material for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 I'm thoroughly enjoying the Oliver Nelson box. Some great writing and playing. My only complaint thus far is I wish the piano had been tuned for the "Fantabulous" session. It's kind of a drag. Otherwise, great stuff. Anyone else checking it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) My copy of the Nelson set arrived the other day. Haven't had time to hear it yet, but it looks interesting. I already had several of the albums within it, including Fantabulous, Sound Pieces, Kennedy Dream, the Spirit of '67 and Full Nelson. Edited March 10, 2006 by Ken Dryden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinuta Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 (edited) I don't have the Mosaic but have several of the sets included. 'Sound Pieces ' is great especially the quartet part with Steve Kuhn, Ron Carter and Grady Tate. They do an amazing version of 'The Shadow Of Your Smile'. Unfortunately it seems the quartet tracks are NOT on the Mosaic which is a real shame. ' Spirit Of 67' is just a really great cd, period. All in all I'm a bit ambivalent about this Mosaic. I'm sure it will be good but why couldn't we have all of 'Sound Pieces'. I suppose that anyone with even a passing interest in Oliver Nelson already has ' Blues & The Abstract Truth' and' More B&TAT' but it seems odd that they are not in the box. Edited March 11, 2006 by kinuta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 I suppose that anyone with even a passing interest in Oliver Nelson already has ' Blues & The Abstract Truth' and' More B&TAT' but it seems odd that they are not in the box. Does anybody know what is Mosaic's explanation for not including these two classics sessions in this box??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 I suppose that anyone with even a passing interest in Oliver Nelson already has ' Blues & The Abstract Truth' and' More B&TAT' but it seems odd that they are not in the box. Does anybody know what is Mosaic's explanation for not including these two classics sessions in this box??? not big band dates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 I suppose that anyone with even a passing interest in Oliver Nelson already has ' Blues & The Abstract Truth' and' More B&TAT' but it seems odd that they are not in the box. Does anybody know what is Mosaic's explanation for not including these two classics sessions in this box??? not big band dates Ten players (MB&TAT) is not exactly a small combo…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I'm thoroughly enjoying the Oliver Nelson box. Some great writing and playing. My only complaint thus far is I wish the piano had been tuned for the "Fantabulous" session. It's kind of a drag. Otherwise, great stuff. Anyone else checking it out? Mine just came the other day--I've been listening to disc 1. The music sounds beautiful, esp. with all the windows in the house open for the first time this year (we're enjoying spring-like weather here in Bloomington). Yeah, you're sure right about that piano--that's from the Argo session. Kenny Berger says in the liner notes that it sounds "as if it had recently been salvaged from the wreckage of the Titanic" and calls it more suitable for a saloon scene in a grade B Western. Hope this set results in Nelson getting more praise for his big-band work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Man Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 I'm thoroughly enjoying the Oliver Nelson box. Some great writing and playing. My only complaint thus far is I wish the piano had been tuned for the "Fantabulous" session. It's kind of a drag. Otherwise, great stuff. Anyone else checking it out? Mine just came the other day--I've been listening to disc 1. The music sounds beautiful, esp. with all the windows in the house open for the first time this year (we're enjoying spring-like weather here in Bloomington). Yeah, you're sure right about that piano--that's from the Argo session. Kenny Berger says in the liner notes that it sounds "as if it had recently been salvaged from the wreckage of the Titanic" and calls it more suitable for a saloon scene in a grade B Western. Hope this set results in Nelson getting more praise for his big-band work. I've had mine for about a week now but I've only managed to play it right through once. First impressions are: 1) it is up to Mosaic's usual high standards for presentation and sound quality. 2) Of his own recordings I seem to prefer the two earliest dates - Full Nelson (Verve) & Fantabulous (Argo). Perhaps that's because they are the ones where he actually plays alto/tenor sax instead of just conducting/arranging. 3) The Kennedy Dream (Impulse) sounds so much better than my original vinyl that it could be a different recording! 4) I don't think the Shirley Scott album - Roll-em (Impulse) is going to grow on me 5) The Pee Wee Russell album - The spirit of '76 (Impulse) is lovely. I have never heard him play before, having always associated his clarinet playing with Dixieland Jazz which I'm not keen on. However his playing with the big band is absolutely stunning and has meant that I will be investigating other recordings of his. 5) There is probably too much Jimmy Smith in the set but it does sound so very good, if perhaps a little too familiar. If you like other of his albums or you just want to upgrade existing vinyl then I don't think you will be disappointed with this set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed S Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 (edited) It appears that the Nelson has made it to CD Universe. Pre-order price is $83.99 Oliver Nelson at CD Universe(linked through the board) Edited March 31, 2006 by Ed Swinnich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I recently picked up the Jimmy Smith Bashin', not knowing part of it was on the Mosaic and liked what I heard so based on that I may now pick up the Mosaic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Up again with this one for the Amazon UK brigade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 (edited) If anybody wants to hear more of the music in the Nelson box before making a decision, here's a Night Lights show based on it: Full Nelson Edited November 10, 2007 by ghost of miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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