clifford_thornton Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 Clifford needs much more time exploring Dexter. I am not going to doubt you there, Chuck. Hence... Quote
Guest akanalog Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 cliffiordde, i also find the gordon quartet dates on BN seriously boring. don't sweat it. well i mean the clark higgins warren quartet. "our man in paris" is hot. i also DO like gordon's 70s work a lot better from what i have heard. Quote
Brad Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 No offense to Clifford or akanalog, I just don't see how the BN material could be deemed boring. That stuff is just so vibrant, so swinging. Different strokes, I guess. Have you listened to the Prestige box. Some great material there. Just listened to Discs 7 and 8 today, tremendous. Quote
J.A.W. Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 cliffiordde, i also find the gordon quartet dates on BN seriously boring. (...) i also DO like gordon's 70s work a lot better from what i have heard. For me it's the other way around, I love most of Dexter's Blue Notes and find his Prestige dates boring. Quote
Free For All Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) For me it's the other way around, I love most of Dexter's Blue Notes and find his Prestige dates boring. I agree inasmuch as I prefer the Blue Notes. But I don't find the Prestige dates boring at all, maybe just a little more predictable, although there are moments where Dex seems to "wake up" a bit and assert himself. Sometimes these "moments" are more a result of the supporting players than Dex himself. IMHO, I wouldn't call any of it "boring", though. EDIT: Dexter Gordon posesses an immediately indentifiable sound/style, something which seems to be increasingly rare with sax players (and horn players in general) these days. IMHO that in itself is quite an accomplishment; I couldn't EVER think of him as boring! I do understand that some don't dig him, and that's fine- different strokes and all that! Edited February 23, 2006 by Free For All Quote
DukeCity Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 I like the DG Blue Notes. Got the boxed set a few years ago. Also recently got a couple of the Black Lions, and have been enjoying those. Dex sounds like he is playing exactly what he wants to play, exactly when he wants to play it. So I guess if one is not digging it, it's because you don't like what Dexter likes, 'cause he's giving it to you just the way he wants it. Quote
AllenLowe Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 I like the Black Notes, but find the Blue Lions problematic - (or is is the Blue Lyons) - Quote
Guest akanalog Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 it's just "go" and "a swingin affair" i was agreeing with cliffoord on as far as being dull dates, IMO. Quote
Guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 it's just "go" and "a swingin affair" i was agreeing with cliffoord on as far as being dull dates, IMO. Funny, I love those two records. Some of my favorite rhythm section playing for that genre. Feel free to mail me your original deep groove pressings, if they're bugging you. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 it's just "go" and "a swingin affair" i was agreeing with cliffoord on as far as being dull dates, IMO. Our Man in Paris is nice, true, it was more the Clark/Higgins/Dex stuff I was fading. Which is funny, because I usually like Sonny Clark quite a bit, not to mention Higgins. Definitely due for a re-listen to those, as well as more of the later stuff that I'm especially curious about that material. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 From what I remember - REMEMBER - the Dex BNs that I was referring to had less bite than I like with my easy swing. I like a gruff, tarnished tenor sound like Ike Quebec or Hal Singer (a recent discovery) when the tempos are medium-to-slow. When the tempos are high, I like the "dogs barking" of Trane, Gilmore, Cliff Jordan, Griff, etc. Then there's Newk, who doesn't really fit in anywhere here, but I like him. Maybe I was looking for something else in Dex rather than just looking at Dex, but now my curiosity has piqued my own self-criticism, so it looks like I know where my money should go (and not "my mouth"). Quote
brownie Posted February 13, 2007 Report Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) Dexter Gordon in fine form in 1964 - apparently in a Dutch club - with George Grunz, Guy Pedersen and Daniel Humair Dexter Gordon 'Loose Walk' Edited February 13, 2007 by brownie Quote
marcello Posted February 13, 2007 Report Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) Another excuse to post one of my photos: Dexter Gordon and Benny Bailey at the Village Vanguard. Edited February 13, 2007 by marcello Quote
Ed S Posted February 13, 2007 Report Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) Dexter Gordon in fine form in 1964 - apparently in a Dutch club - with George Grunz, Guy Pedersen and Daniel Humair Dexter Gordon 'Loose Walk' Mandatory! Edited February 13, 2007 by Ed Swinnich Quote
Late Posted February 13, 2007 Report Posted February 13, 2007 This may have been mentioned earlier (haven't read the whole thread), but Dex's duet (completely sans rhythm section) with Al Cohn entitled "On the Trail" on Silver Blue is excellent. It's really interesting to just hear two tenors going back and forth, one creating "rhythm" while the other solos. Quote
brownie Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 Dexter Gordon in fine form in 1964 - apparently in a Dutch club - with George Grunz, Guy Pedersen and Daniel Humair Dexter Gordon 'Loose Walk' More from the same evening... Night In Tunisia Watch Dexter arrive at the club and get into action! Quote
Free For All Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 Daniel Humair How do you pronounce "Humair"? I've always said "You-Mare", or is it "Hue-Mare", or something else entirely? Regardless, I do love his playing! Wow, I just looked up his bio and he's nearly 70! Is he still active? He's sure participated in a lot of great music over his lifetime. Quote
brownie Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) How do you pronounce "Humair"? I've always said "You-Mare", or is it "Hue-Mare", or something else entirely? Regardless, I do love his playing! Wow, I just looked up his bio and he's nearly 70! Is he still active? He's sure participated in a lot of great music over his lifetime. Humair is still very much active. As a musician, also as an abstract painter, and a gourmet among other occupations. Humair is pronounced 'Uhuu-meir' Edited March 16, 2007 by brownie Quote
Free For All Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 Humair is pronounced 'Uhuu-meir' Wow. I had NO chance of getting THAT right! Guy, you really bring a lot of valuable information to this board (in addition to your charming personality!). Thank you! Quote
sidewinder Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 As a musician, also as an abstract painter, and a gourmet among other occupations. This man has the perfect lifestyle ! Quote
brownie Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 Humair is pronounced 'Uhuu-meir' Wow. I had NO chance of getting THAT right! Guy, you really bring a lot of valuable information to this board (in addition to your charming personality!). Thank you! You're very welcome -_- Glad I could help! Quote
brownie Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 One more Dexter video... http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/...4_dexter-gordon Filmed at Copenhagen's Cafe Montmartre playing 'Those Were the Days' and 'Fried Bananas' with Kenny Drew on piano, NHOP on bass and Makaya Ntoshoko on drums. The video carries the logo of the French TV channel 'M6' which had a weekly jazz show several years ago. Quote
xybert Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Bump. I've really gotten in to Dexter Gordon's music recently. I've only recently gotten in to Sonny Clark and that lead me back to Go, an album i traded years ago. I don't think there's ever been an artist that i've slept on more fully, and there's been many. I'm still only about halfway through reading this thread, but it's been really interesting reading the various opinions. I don't really have anything much to add right now, just felt the need to express what i'm diggin at the moment. I must say i'm really enjoying the Prestige stuff that i've heard... I currently have: Daddy Plays the Horn Dexter Calling Go A Swingin Affair Our Man In Paris More Power The Panther Jumpin Blues I'm planning on checking out his forties stuff next and then some of the Columbia stuff. Might possibly get the Columbia box if it comes down in price. The Steeplechases are the final frontier, although i might look at cherry picking a few before getting in to the Columbias. Edited February 23, 2014 by xybert Quote
mjzee Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 The two big unknowns for me are the Steeplechases: the studio albums and the live air checks from the '60's. I'll bet it's all prime Dexter. I have a few of them, and they're just great: Something Different (with Philip Catherine subbing for piano in the front line), Biting The Apple (Barry Harris, Sam Jones and Billy Higgins: 'nuff said, and better than the Columbias), Vols. 1 & 3 of Swiss Nights (alive, swinging, electric), and Billie's Bounce ("or Bouncing With B" sez Dex...'60's air check with Tete, NHOP, Alex Riel). Someone on Amazon posted that there are 14 volumes of Dex '60's air checks on Steeplechase. We should discuss them more. I miss Dex. That Amazon poster, named Marks, posted this on 6/27/13 for the album Satin Doll: When one looks over and listens to Gordon's vast discography, the realization starts to sink in that 1967 was a very strong year for LTD. He was 44 and at the height of his powers. All in all, there are now seven issued CDs of live performances from that summer of '67. Every one is splendid, and Satin Doll is no different. Its sound quality is passably good, and for that reason alone I have given the issue only four stars instead of five. But the jazz is exceptional. Highly recommended. For those who can't get enough and, like me, want more of Gordon from 1967, the CDs currently available on the market are:Satin Doll (Steeplechase,06.29.67)The Squirrel (Blue Note, 06.29.67)Body and Soul (Black Lion, 07.20.67)Both Sides of Midnight (Black Lion, July 20 and 21, 1967)Take the 'A' Train (Black Lion, 07.21.67)Live at the Jazzhus Montmartre (DA Music, July 20 and 21, 1967) andJazz at Highschool (Storyville 08.05.1967)The first six were all recorded at Montmartre. All seven include Drew on piano. The quartet on the last five CDs is Gordon, Drew, Nils-Henning Orsted Pedersen (b), and Al Heath (dr). The last six titles I would rate as five stars and give my highest recommendation. The Black Lion titles are among the best live Gordon recordings on the market. Quote
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