The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 I was wanting that recently released early Earl Hines set for ages, so now that that's done, next on my fantasy Mosaic list is a 30s/40s Charlie Barnet set (there's not much out there in good sound). Otherwise something like an Andy Kirk/Mary Lou Williams set, or a 40s Lucky Millinder set would be next on my dream list. Millinder's 1941-1950 material is available on 3 Chronological (sorry Chronogical ) Classics CDs. Very nice stuff but I wonder what the benefit of a small Mosaic box (which they no longer do anyway) covering the same period might be. MG Probably better sound, but that's hypothetical now. Well, I greatly enjoy those recordings on Chronogical Classics. I doubt if anyone would ever have thought of issuing the material in excellent sound. Would enough people be sufficiently interested in Millinder to secure a profit for the company doing to? We're all jazz fans (to some degree) on this board, but I bet there are precious few of us who have these 3 CDs. Fewer than 6, I'd guess. MG Well, Millinder is not to everyone's taste That's what I mean. Nor is Woody Shaw. Oh, I'm #3 MG Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 Probably better sound, but that's hypothetical now. Well, I greatly enjoy those recordings on Chronogical Classics. I doubt if anyone would ever have thought of issuing the material in excellent sound. Would enough people be sufficiently interested in Millinder to secure a profit for the company doing to? We're all jazz fans (to some degree) on this board, but I bet there are precious few of us who have these 3 CDs. Fewer than 6, I'd guess. MG Well I'm #2. Good sound would be the goal. My fantasy wish list is for good music that has only ever been released in relatively muddy sound and could use an overhaul. Lucky Millinder falls into that category and I would hope that anyone with an interest in Swing Era dance music or early Rhythm and Blues would snap such a thing up. Well, I get your point there. Actually, if you included the King 50s material, you'd be in Bear Family territory, I guess, not Mosaic. I think that would be interesting. Thinking about King material, an Eddie 'Lockjaw' Davis King set would be terribly interesting, to me. There are 5 LPs from '55-57, plus, I think, some earlier stuff issued on 78/45. Might make a 4 CD box. MG Quote
SwingItTrev Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 Well, I get your point there. Actually, if you included the King 50s material, you'd be in Bear Family territory, I guess, not Mosaic. I think that would be interesting. I would be totally okay with that, as long as they start with 1941 Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 Well, I get your point there. Actually, if you included the King 50s material, you'd be in Bear Family territory, I guess, not Mosaic. I think that would be interesting. I would be totally okay with that, as long as they start with 1941 Yes. MG Quote
BeBop Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 A Joe Harriott box? That's four votes: you, me, Bol and Romualdo... Quote
ghost of miles Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 Lots of hypothetical sets mentioned here that I'd love to see (and hear!): the Chico Hamilton Impulse (but has Mosaic ever had much luck licensing Impulse material? I know it's owned by Universal now, but I don't recall many Impulse sides ever showing up on Mosaic sets, let alone comprising one), the Konitz Verve (I wrote MC about that years ago as well), the 1960s Hodges Verve, a Don Byas or Joe Harriott... I'd also love a Mark Murphy Muse set (I've run down several of the 32 Jazz comps that Michael Bourne curated in the 1990s, but they leave a lot out from the original albums). Quote
Joe Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 A Joe Harriott box? That's four votes: you, me, Bol and Romualdo... :tup :tup Quote
Head Man Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 ........the Chico Hamilton Impulse (but has Mosaic ever had much luck licensing Impulse material? I know it's owned by Universal now, but I don't recall many Impulse sides ever showing up on Mosaic sets, let alone comprising one). Didn't the Oliver Nelson box include a lot of his Impulse! material? Quote
sidewinder Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) ........the Chico Hamilton Impulse (but has Mosaic ever had much luck licensing Impulse material? I know it's owned by Universal now, but I don't recall many Impulse sides ever showing up on Mosaic sets, let alone comprising one). Didn't the Oliver Nelson box include a lot of his Impulse! material? It had 'The Kennedy Dream' and 'Sound Pieces' on it (but not the 'Live In Los Angeles'). Good prompt to dig it out for a listen.. A Joe Harriott box? That's four votes: you, me, Bol and Romualdo... :tup :tup Vocalion have now put out so much of the previously rare Joe Harriott Lansdowne Series material and with much of the earlier stuff also on CD (Proper etc.) such a set - although a fantastic option - has probably now been overtaken by events (sadly). Edited June 4, 2013 by sidewinder Quote
David Ayers Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 ........the Chico Hamilton Impulse (but has Mosaic ever had much luck licensing Impulse material? I know it's owned by Universal now, but I don't recall many Impulse sides ever showing up on Mosaic sets, let alone comprising one). Didn't the Oliver Nelson box include a lot of his Impulse! material? It had 'The Kennedy Dream' and 'Sound Pieces' on it (but not the 'Live In Los Angeles'). Good prompt to dig it out for a listen.. A Joe Harriott box? That's four votes: you, me, Bol and Romualdo... :tup :tup Vocalion have now put out so much of the previously rare Joe Harriott Lansdowne Series material and with much of the earlier stuff also on CD (Proper etc.) such a set - although a fantastic option - has probably now been overtaken by events (sadly). Ditto. What's missing? (though of course the thought is beautiful!) Quote
Clunky Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 ... you know that Bley got tape ... True that. ? Quote
JSngry Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 Bley's reputation is that of a documentarian (which I guess means that you eat documents or something). Quote
sidewinder Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) A Joe Harriott box? That's four votes: you, me, Bol and Romualdo... :tup :tup Vocalion have now put out so much of the previously rare Joe Harriott Lansdowne Series material and with much of the earlier stuff also on CD (Proper etc.) such a set - although a fantastic option - has probably now been overtaken by events (sadly). Ditto. What's missing? (though of course the thought is beautiful!) Hum Dono? Edited June 5, 2013 by sidewinder Quote
David Ayers Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 A Joe Harriott box? That's four votes: you, me, Bol and Romualdo... :tup :tup Vocalion have now put out so much of the previously rare Joe Harriott Lansdowne Series material and with much of the earlier stuff also on CD (Proper etc.) such a set - although a fantastic option - has probably now been overtaken by events (sadly). Ditto. What's missing? (though of course the thought is beautiful!) Hum Dono? And that's enough to fill a box? Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 i would like to see mosaic do a set we just cant get in 1st pressing album-form. like jsngry said a rare live material set.... i guess my dream set would be a 10-cd / 12-lp mosaic set of unreleased blue note outtakes. my ultimate set would be, say a few select blue note albums, but the complete session tape: as it happened, take, after take, after take. Quote
colinmce Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 That would make for an interesting concept for a whole different company. My first vote would be Out To Lunch. But I wonder, and I'm sure some here knows, are the master reels themselves "edited" in a sense? Were bum takes discarded or recorded over? Or does the reel for Moanin' just have everything the band played that day? Certainly this varies by session, engineer, label etc. I'm referring mostly to RVG-era Blue Note specifically. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 My ultimate set would be, say a few select blue note albums, but the complete session tape: as it happened, take, after take, after take. Me too! How about... Quote
sidewinder Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 A Joe Harriott box? That's four votes: you, me, Bol and Romualdo... :tup :tup Vocalion have now put out so much of the previously rare Joe Harriott Lansdowne Series material and with much of the earlier stuff also on CD (Proper etc.) such a set - although a fantastic option - has probably now been overtaken by events (sadly). Ditto. What's missing? (though of course the thought is beautiful!) Hum Dono? And that's enough to fill a box? A whole box of 'Hum Dono' plus Tyrone Washington's 'Trainwreck' would get the orders flooding in.. Quote
crisp Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 ........the Chico Hamilton Impulse (but has Mosaic ever had much luck licensing Impulse material? I know it's owned by Universal now, but I don't recall many Impulse sides ever showing up on Mosaic sets, let alone comprising one). Didn't the Oliver Nelson box include a lot of his Impulse! material? Yes. I don't get the impression there's a problem licensing Impulse material, but rather that very few artists recorded enough on the label to make a box. Coltrane and Hamilton were among the few. Plus there are a lot of populist elements (harpsichords, varitones and Sixties hit tunes), which it's obvious Cuscuna hates. Shirley Scott did enough for a box and that's one I would love to see, but Mosaic seems to avoid organists for some reason. Quote
Head Man Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 ........ but Mosaic seems to avoid organists for some reason. ...because they don't sell? I speak as someone who doesn't really enjoy jazz organists. Quote
Joe Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 Well, if Mosaic is going to continue to license Muse material (though I suspect the most recent set has more to do with Cuscuna's relationship with Woody Shaw than any specific interest he might have in the label on which that music originally appeared), I think we need a Ricky Ford box, a Richard Davis box (including the Creative Construction Company LPs), and a Red Rodney / Red Rodney and Ira Sullivan box. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 ........ but Mosaic seems to avoid organists for some reason. ...because they don't sell? I speak as someone who doesn't really enjoy jazz organists. they did very nice big boxes of Jimmy Smith and Larry Young Quote
ghost of miles Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 A Joe Harriott box? That's four votes: you, me, Bol and Romualdo... :tup :tup Vocalion have now put out so much of the previously rare Joe Harriott Lansdowne Series material and with much of the earlier stuff also on CD (Proper etc.) such a set - although a fantastic option - has probably now been overtaken by events (sadly). Ditto. What's missing? (though of course the thought is beautiful!) Hum Dono? And that's enough to fill a box? A whole box of 'Hum Dono' plus Tyrone Washington's 'Trainwreck' would get the orders flooding in.. Somebody definitely needs to write a folk ballad about that session. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 The thing is, it's really NOT a train wreck at all. Hell, I think it's every bit as good as Natural Essence, and perhaps even a little better even! Quote
_forumlogo.png.a607ef20a6e0c299ab2aa6443aa1f32e.png)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.