Late Posted November 16, 2019 Author Report Posted November 16, 2019 A mid-70's occasion where Sonny Fortune is soaring. (There used to be a longer version of this on YouTube, but I couldn't find it.) Quote
JSngry Posted November 17, 2019 Report Posted November 17, 2019 4 hours ago, felser said: To me, McCoy Tyner had the same effect on his 70's sax players. Azar Lawrence was the last one that didn't get overwhelmed. Players as strong as Bartz and George Adams just went under, let alone poor Joe Ford. Sonny Fortune did the best with him. I never heard George Adams go under, ever. In the case of Ford, and to a lesser extent Bartz, I'd put the onus of being "overwhelmed" on them, not McCoy. It's never on the leader to play down to their sidemen unless they have a reason. Otherwise, you on the gig, play. But to be fair, I saw Bartz live with McCoy ca. 1983, and he was magnificent. Totally. Quote
kh1958 Posted November 17, 2019 Report Posted November 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, JSngry said: I never heard George Adams go under, ever. In the case of Ford, and to a lesser extent Bartz, I'd put the onus of being "overwhelmed" on them, not McCoy. It's never on the leader to play down to their sidemen unless they have a reason. Otherwise, you on the gig, play. But to be fair, I saw Bartz live with McCoy ca. 1983, and he was magnificent. Totally. McCoy Tyner Quartet with Gary Bartz at the short-lived Judge's Chambers? Quote
JSngry Posted November 17, 2019 Report Posted November 17, 2019 Nah, some place in Santa Fe. I was living in Albuquerque then. Same band that was on Dimensions with Terrence Blanchard added. Damn good group live, at least that night. Quote
Guy Berger Posted November 17, 2019 Report Posted November 17, 2019 I love Gary Bartz’s playing with the 1970-71 Miles bands. And he sounds great on the McCoy albums I’ve heard him on, Expansions/Extensions/Asante/Sama Layuca Quote
felser Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Guy Berger said: I love Gary Bartz’s playing with the 1970-71 Miles bands. And he sounds great on the McCoy albums I’ve heard him on, Expansions/Extensions/Asante/Sama Layuca Bartz is not on Asante, that's Andrew White. I agree he sounds great on Expansions and Extensions. Sama Layuca is a wonderful album, though Bartz's contributions don't jump out in my memory. Quote
Guy Berger Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, felser said: Bartz is not on Asante, that's Andrew White. He’s on the July 1970 bonus tracks to the CD edition Quote
soulpope Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 41 minutes ago, BFrank said: Is this a Gary Bartz or Billy Harper Topic? Probably moderators could extract the last 10 Posts and create/insert into an existing (?) Gary Bartz thread.... Quote
jazzcorner Posted February 4, 2020 Report Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Billy Harper is recently found with a group called " The Cookers" on several CD issues Have these on my wantlist: The Cookers - Warriors (Jazz Legacy Productions - JLP 1001009) 4 For Sale from €7.90 CD, Album, cla 2011 4 months ago Edit The Cookers - Time And Time Again (Motéma - MTA-CD-159) 2 For Sale from €9.00 CD, Album, dig 2014 4 months ago Edit The Cookers - The Call Of The Wild And Peaceful Heart (Smoke Sessions Records - SSR-1607) 5 For Sale from €10.57 CD 2016 4 months ago Edit The Cookers - Believe (Motéma - MTM-92) 2 For Sale from €17.90 CD, Album, Dig 2012 4 months ago Edit The Cookers - Cast The First Stone (Plus Loin Music - PL4536) CD, Album 2010 Edited February 4, 2020 by jazzcorner Quote
felser Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, BFrank said: They're ALL good! Get 'em. Board member David Weiss is the organizer of that group! And yes, you need all of their recordings! Quote
jlhoots Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 47 minutes ago, felser said: Board member David Weiss is the organizer of that group! And yes, you need all of their recordings! And you need to see them in person if / when you can!! Quote
Pim Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, BFrank said: They're ALL good! Get 'em. Nothing to add. All great recordings. Never thought it would happen but going to see them in March in Rotterdam! Quote
soulpope Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Pim said: Nothing to add. All great recordings. Never thought it would happen but going to see them in March in Rotterdam! Enjoy .... Quote
Rabshakeh Posted May 25, 2021 Report Posted May 25, 2021 I note that Black Saint has just been re-released on a German label called "Our Swimmer". Does anyone know anything about it? Is it a boot? Quote
cliffpeterson Posted May 26, 2021 Report Posted May 26, 2021 Saw The Cookers this past Saturday at The Falcon in Marlboro. Showed signs of lack of playing together-the unison reed and brass playing was not a little off-not so the rhythm. The solos were great. 3 players at least 80 years old. Quote
Pim Posted May 26, 2021 Report Posted May 26, 2021 Both concerts in Holland got cancelled. The first in march 2020, the postponed in 2021 also. Really makes me sad as it could be a last opportunity to see these guys live... Quote
erwbol Posted May 26, 2021 Report Posted May 26, 2021 There are/were some very good Cookers boots on Dimeadozen if its any consolation, Pim. Quote
Pim Posted May 26, 2021 Report Posted May 26, 2021 Thanks! But for me it really is about caputring the guys in real life. Quote
mjazzg Posted September 14, 2021 Report Posted September 14, 2021 Of interest to resident BH fans perhaps Quote
kh1958 Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 New York Times article on Billy Harper, now 80 years old. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/16/arts/music/billy-harper.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&fbclid=IwAR0HAiaLtIJiNSNnr8jEIqvWKCzxU6nKYr9foWRVM5qXZnr5-rj2Brj1Kqk Quote
felser Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 59 minutes ago, kh1958 said: New York Times article on Billy Harper, now 80 years old. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/16/arts/music/billy-harper.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&fbclid=IwAR0HAiaLtIJiNSNnr8jEIqvWKCzxU6nKYr9foWRVM5qXZnr5-rj2Brj1Kqk $#%$& Paywall Quote
T.D. Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, felser said: $#%$& Paywall John, I use a "burner browser" (Edge, but it could be any) just to access sites with paywalls. I frequently clear its entire cache (+cookies, etc), which seems to zero out counters of allowed articles. Some sites have hard paywalls (no freebies allowed), in which case this doesn't work, but many allow access to 1 to 5 articles before enforcing the paywall. I just read the article, which would have been paywalled for me on Chrome (my usual browser), that way. Edited January 21, 2023 by T.D. Quote
Pim Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 Thanks for sharing. Still hoping for a European tour here… I would definitely travel to Belgium or Germany to capture him live. I didn’t knew he had an 11 year old daughter 😲 Quote
tranemonk Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 19 hours ago, Pim said: Thanks for sharing. Still hoping for a European tour here… I would definitely travel to Belgium or Germany to capture him live. I didn’t knew he had an 11 year old daughter 😲 Yea that's interesting. Obviously his wife is pretty youngish. I'm going to see the Cookers in a month or so here. Had no idea he was 80. I hope I look like that when I'm 80. Quote
T.D. Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 54 minutes ago, tranemonk said: Yea that's interesting. Obviously his wife is pretty youngish. I'm going to see the Cookers in a month or so here. Had no idea he was 80. I hope I look like that when I'm 80. I saw BH live when he was 75 and was stunned at how young he looked (didn't even have gray hair then iirc). Quote
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