porcy62 Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Do they play the last matches at 8.30 pm? ned : rom - 20.45 pm (17.6.) fra : ita - 20.45 pm (17.6.) i think this are the two games you were wonderin' about Not really sure, maybe I'll prolonge my Aikido traning till 22.30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Do they play the last matches at 8.30 pm? ned : rom - 20.45 pm (17.6.) fra : ita - 20.45 pm (17.6.) i think this are the two games you were wonderin' about As a sidenote, and not to derail the thread in the politic minefield, so please be tolerant. In Italy there is a growing xenophobic feeling towards romas, and rumenians in generals (yes, italians can be such ignorant that can't get the difference) because of some recent foreigner's criminals. So the government tried to approve a law to kick romenians out of Italy, (I suspect it's again constitution and human right laws and BTW we have bigger problems with italian criminals, like mafia or camorra)...whatever... it has been noted that it would be pretty ironic if italians kick romenians off Italy and Romania kick Italy off european championship. End of the sidenote. Let's go back to the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 don't get me started on the game austria vs germany .... that one really scares the shit out of me I remember a certain Austria-Germany match in the 1982 World Cup... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Basten II Posted June 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 the game i'm really looking forward to is the netherlands vs. romania ... as we have already discussed the dutch team seems to peak quite early .... maybe some of the better players from the dutch team need a little break I know that some people will bitch if Netherlands coasts it against Romania and the Romanian take advantage of it but France and Italy have nothing to blame but themselves, when you cumulate only 1 point in two games in those kind of competitions, you're asking for trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Basten II Posted June 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 yes, the most important thing is a good hairdo! the game i'm really looking forward to is the netherlands vs. romania ... as we have already discussed the dutch team seems to peak quite early .... maybe some of the better players from the dutch team need a little break uh oh ... and don't get me started on the game austria vs germany .... that one really scares the shit out of me Do they play the last matches at 8.30 pm? From now on, all the games will be played in this time slot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Yes, rub it in! I'm a big Spain supporter and I'm of course I'm happy but I do feel for you. It's a gut wrenching way to lose. From what I saw of Russia Greece, neither deserve(d) to advance. Hope Sweden makes it through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 As a sidenote, and not to derail the thread in the politic minefield, so please be tolerant. In Italy there is a growing xenophobic feeling towards romas, and rumenians in generals (yes, italians can be such ignorant that can't get the difference) because of some recent foreigner's criminals. So the government tried to approve a law to kick romenians out of Italy, (I suspect it's again constitution and human right laws and BTW we have bigger problems with italian criminals, like mafia or camorra)...whatever... it has been noted that it would be pretty ironic if italians kick romenians off Italy and Romania kick Italy off european championship. End of the sidenote. Let's go back to the field. ... they, not we, shouldn't have left the field in the first place, and they're not alone. Did you get what some Polish politician said about German player Podolski - a Poland-born German who scored against the Polish team? Ridiculous. Or that Swiss player from Turkey being afraid of celebrating his goal against the Turkish team? He was afraid his family back there might get into trouble. I like to watch these games but find the nationalist aspect of the whole contest all the more absurd these days. I find the concept of nationalism all the more absurd every day with migration and globalization going on the way it does. International sports contests are some of the last reservations of nationalism in our time. So we're outside the field with one foot from the start, it seems? Oh well ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) Now with two games over, I find the teams of the Netherlands, Portugal, and Spain to be the candidates. The Germans? It is one of their specialities to struggle in the first round and then bite through the contest. But it's not elegant soccer. The Austrians through them out of the contest in 1976 in a similar situation - a historic win of the Austrians. I'll watch that one, for sure. The Dutch deserve it for their spirit. The French and Italians now get the payback for their weak show in the last World Championship final - I thought neither of them really deserved it. Remember the English got theirs in the qualification! That the Greek win four years ago was a one shot was predictable. Edited June 15, 2008 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 i guess you don't know this ... but regarding football there is a special relationship between austria and germany ... kickin' the great german brother out of the tournament would be even more fun to the austrians than winnin' the whole tournament :rsmile: I didn't know that but could have guessed. There's a similar rivalry to this between Scotland and England. And England v. Germany of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 What an amazing second half. I'm sure it will come down to PKs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Basten II Posted June 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 More reasons to hate Chelsea, Cech just did a Bill Buckner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Turkey 3-2 up against the Czechs and the Turkish goalie has just been sent off ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Turkey 3-2 full time. What an incredible last 10 minutes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 No sooner do I open my big mouth and Turkey scores. Blowing a two goal lead with 15 minutes to go! Unbelievable. Of course, they will be without their goalie for the next round and what a stupid thing he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Amazing finish! One of the most dramatic I have ever seen! And yes, an unbelievably stupid thing to do by the Turkish goalkeeper. Since they had done all their substitutions, a midfielder had to play the last couple of minutes in the goal. Imagine if Czechia had equalized and there had been penalty kicks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Hawkins Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 More reasons to hate Chelsea, Cech just did a Bill Buckner Best 'keeper in the world, bar none. They simply wouldn't be there in the first place without him. (Agreed though - it was a horrible error!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 More reasons to hate Chelsea, Cech just did a Bill Buckner Best 'keeper in the world, bar none. They simply wouldn't be there in the first place without him. (Agreed though - it was a horrible error!) No offense, Red, but I think Buffon is the best one, just look at the latest WC, or even the last match with Romania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Hawkins Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Yes, Buffon is very fine! Also, on most days, Van Der Sar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user0815 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 The Germans? It is one of their specialities to struggle in the first round and then bite through the contest. But it's not elegant soccer. The Austrians through them out of the contest in 1976 in a similar situation - a historic win of the Austrians. I'll watch that one, for sure. just a small correction: cordoba, the legendary historic win of the austrians, was in 1978 ... the game was part of the fifa wc 1978 in argentina. even the english wikipedia has an article about this game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_cordoba that wikipedia entry obviously has been written by someone from austria (not by someone from germany) ... only austrians like to talk about the "miracle of cordoba" ... germans usually call it the "disgrace of cordoba" oh lord, please don't let that happen again today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Basten II Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 With the first half of Germany-Austria in the books, all i can say is great drama but very poor futbol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 With the first half of Germany-Austria in the books, all i can say is great drama but very poor futbol. And both Managers got sent off to the stands. Looks like Angela Merkel had to free up a seat for her chief If Germany lose there will be mayhem ! (but I don't think they will) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 In minute 67: Germany - Austria 1 : 0 Croatia - Poland 1 : 0 I think the Germans played a little better so far, had more chances, making me think it was just a matter of time before they got one in. Too many unnecessary fouls by Austrian players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Austria tried and did what they could with the material they have, but they just don't have the individual skilfulness needed. At least they didn't finish last in their group. Nice goal by Ballack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user0815 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 i'm so glad there is always ballack! :rsmile: third game, third win for the team from croatia ... what are the croatians are trying to do here? ... did they really think we wouldn't notice this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user0815 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 With the first half of Germany-Austria in the books, all i can say is great drama but very poor futbol. ok, let's be honest here: great football it wasn't ... talkin' about great drama ... italy? france? or maybe romania? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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