ebay madness re: vinyl

[JSngry]

Land yachts. Great for highway trips. Nightmares in town. 

[dougcrates]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/296298162262?itmmeta=01HSVVTF5CBSSRQGDRWE69KQE9&hash=item44fcbf2856:g:y~UAAOSwYl1l9cbz

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue - $3,605.  Crazy.

[Ken Dryden]

It is funny to pay for a vintage LP with some tracks released at the wrong speed. Owning it is for bragging rights, not playing.

[Brad]

On 3/25/2024 at 11:19 PM, dougcrates said:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/296298162262?itmmeta=01HSVVTF5CBSSRQGDRWE69KQE9&hash=item44fcbf2856:g:y~UAAOSwYl1l9cbz

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue - $3,605.  Crazy.

Well, it is Jazz Record Center. That explains it. 

[Ken Dryden]

On 5/1/2024 at 9:32 PM, Brad said:

Well, it is Jazz Record Center. That explains it. 

I don’t blame Fred Cohen for auctioning vintage LPs at ridiculous prices (to us) if collectors (especially in Japan) are willing to pay them.

 

[clifford_thornton]

oh, I agree -- the prices he gets are purely the bidders' responsibility. The starting bids usually aren't that high, and there is no reserve to meet. The market is the market. If I could sell LPs for the prices JRC gets, I would be doing the same thing.

[Daniel A]

Is this thread also for Discogs madness? What do you think of the pricing of this seller:

https://www.discogs.com/seller/MION.USA/profile?sort=price%2Cdesc&genre=Jazz&q=Blue+note

[soulpope]

24 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

Is this thread also for Discogs madness? What do you think of the pricing of this seller:

https://www.discogs.com/seller/MION.USA/profile?sort=price%2Cdesc&genre=Jazz&q=Blue+note

Not very imaginative 😎 ....

[Pim]

33 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

Is this thread also for Discogs madness? What do you think of the pricing of this seller:

https://www.discogs.com/seller/MION.USA/profile?sort=price%2Cdesc&genre=Jazz&q=Blue+note

Their pricing seems very randomly chosen. Weird because i've had some good experiences with Mion Berlin. They were selling Japanese vinyl for pretty reasonable prices.

[Royal Oak]

If you sort his inventory from lowest first, I counted 17 copies of Earl Klugh's "Finger Painting" and 11 copies of Stanley Jordan's "Magic Touch" in the first 100 listings.

Anyway, I think those $1000+ listings are some pricing glitch, deliberate or otherwise.. There's no way he doesn't know the market prices of Japanese Blue Notes

Edited December 1, 2024 by rdavenport

[porcy62]

2 hours ago, Pim said:

Their pricing seems very randomly chosen. Weird because i've had some good experiences with Mion Berlin. They were selling Japanese vinyl for pretty reasonable prices.

Me too. Mion Berlin was fine.

[mjazzg]

Mion UK do similar sometimes, never figured out why unless for some reason they don't want to sell them just at the moment and it's easier than de-listing.

[porcy62]

40 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

Mion UK do similar sometimes, never figured out why unless for some reason they don't want to sell them just at the moment and it's easier than de-listing.

Sounds correct though delisting is quite easy 

Edited December 1, 2024 by porcy62

[jlhoots]

I know a lot of you use Discogs., but I've never quite been a fan. 

[JSngry]

1 hour ago, jlhoots said:

I know a lot of you use Discogs., but I've never quite been a fan. 

I was advised early on to screen the sellers on to only use ones with impeccable ratings and reviews.

That has proven to be very good advice!

[dougcrates]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/305944175931?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SR8ECHeEQn2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=VP-wL1WcQ92&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/296849711907?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SR8ECHeEQn2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=VP-wL1WcQ92&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/305944190135?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SR8ECHeEQn2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=VP-wL1WcQ92&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[sidewinder]

10 hours ago, dougcrates said:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/305944175931?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SR8ECHeEQn2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=VP-wL1WcQ92&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/296849711907?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SR8ECHeEQn2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=VP-wL1WcQ92&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/305944190135?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SR8ECHeEQn2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=VP-wL1WcQ92&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

That's not madness - that's insanity !

[soulpope]

Lord, let it rain ....

[Holy Ghost]

On 3/25/2024 at 11:19 PM, dougcrates said:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/296298162262?itmmeta=01HSVVTF5CBSSRQGDRWE69KQE9&hash=item44fcbf2856:g:y~UAAOSwYl1l9cbz

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue - $3,605.  Crazy.

Who does this? Wow. 3K+ for Kind of Blue? Never realized Columbias fetched these kind of prices nowadays. Has Kind of Blue ever slipped out of print? Even when I met my wife 25 years ago, she had a copy, that I know she didn't lay no more than a bill or two on. Is a two-eye, v. a six-eye, gonna break the bank? Mono v. Stereo? Wasn't that LP fucked up with a speed issue, once it originally left the pressing plant back in 1959 (or maybe it was the cd)? Atlantic is kind of the same to me. I can't tell the difference between a mid-sixties fan copy versus a mid-seventies fan copy. I paid $10 for a clean mono copy of McLean's Right Now!, a far harder album to find, pre. Liberty; who would drop almost 4K on a Columbia copy of Kind of Blue? Don't get that thinking. 

[clifford_thornton]

Iconic album in its first state in top condition... those with deep pockets will always drive the market. I do vaguely recall this auction (can't look it up now), and similar copies have gone for over $2K numerous times.

Yes, the tape speed is wrong on all early pressings, and I'm not sure it was corrected until the CD era. Someone with more knowledge can probably add more here. I'm fine with a Japanese mono at this point; years ago, I had a very early but kind of battered copy, and sold it for $40. Could probably get a lot more now!

[Pim]

Yeah it’s ridiculous to pay that amount for the music but it might be a good investment if you’re in it just for the money. After all it’s a first pressing of what is probably the best known jazz album ever. It’s probably getting worth more every year .

[Ken Dryden]

I fail to understand the fascination with first pressings made from a faulty tape with the wrong speed. I quess the obsessive collectors hang them on their walls, I would rather invest in music that I don't already own. I already have Kind of Blue in at least two boxed sets with the correct speed, that's plenty.

 

 

[mjazzg]

2 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

Iconic album in its first state in top condition... those with deep pockets will always drive the market. 

This is it.

First editions in many other art fields command the highest prices be that fine art prints, ceramics, first edition books etc. Why should recorded music be any different?

If people want to pay to own the "original" in pristine condition and they can afford to do so then so be it and good luck to them, it's their money.

I'd hazard a guess that some of them do play the LPs rather than hang them on the wall but even if they don't and only keep them as an artefact I can't get upset about that either. It's a lovely thing to own.

Some of these collectors may equally regard having at least two box sets containing the same version of the album on the same format as a bit odd, after all you can only play one at a time.

Edited January 28 by mjazzg

[medjuck]

IIRC (and I often don't) the titles of All Blues and Flamenco Sketches were mis identified on the first pressings. 

[clifford_thornton]

yeah, the title reversal is right from what I remember too.

I certainly can't afford those kinds of prices. But obviously some people can... I think they are a bit like rare books, and the rare book market at least used to be quite lucrative, much moreso than LPs. But I've heard that it's cooled in recent years, so maybe vinyl is something like a replacement. Time will tell. I can think of just a few records that command five-figure sums, and many more books that will do the same.