tranemonk Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I know it's from our friends in Spain... but this looks intriguing... What thinks you experts???? http://www.systemrecords.co.uk/various-artists-complete-felsted-mainstream-collection-p-1062925.html I might have to snap this one up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I know it's from our friends in Spain... but this looks intriguing... What thinks you experts???? http://www.systemrecords.co.uk/various-artists-complete-felsted-mainstream-collection-p-1062925.html I might have to snap this one up.... Wonderful music, wonderful price! http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Labels/felsted.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I remember reading that Mosaic had plans to do a Felsted box, but the master tapes couldn't be located. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) Of course there's always the chance that was because this company had the tapes.. . . Nah. Going to be needledrops. Edited September 4, 2011 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Well, we pay full price+ when Mosaic do needle drops, so I guess we won't object to paying a price which more properly reflects the costs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 London/Decca reissued the Hawkins, Strayhorn and Buddy Tate sessions on CD in the '80s. Did they get around to any of the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Well, we pay full price+ when Mosaic do needle drops, so I guess we won't object to paying a price which more properly reflects the costs... That's kind of unfair. If and when Mosaic uses needle drops, they are very up front about it and do so only after they've looked at all available source material and determined that the ND is the best possible representation of a piece of music. Further, the percentage of ND's they resort to is miniscule in comparison to the totality of what they're reproducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 (edited) Well, we pay full price+ when Mosaic do needle drops, so I guess we won't object to paying a price which more properly reflects the costs... That's kind of unfair. If and when Mosaic uses needle drops, they are very up front about it and do so only after they've looked at all available source material and determined that the ND is the best possible representation of a piece of music. Further, the percentage of ND's they resort to is miniscule in comparison to the totality of what they're reproducing. I agree with Dave, that's not fair. Needle drops are Mosaic's last resort and are done in very few cases. Edited September 5, 2011 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnymax Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Well, we pay full price+ when Mosaic do needle drops, so I guess we won't object to paying a price which more properly reflects the costs... That's kind of unfair. If and when Mosaic uses needle drops, they are very up front about it and do so only after they've looked at all available source material and determined that the ND is the best possible representation of a piece of music. Further, the percentage of ND's they resort to is miniscule in comparison to the totality of what they're reproducing. I agree with Dave, that's not fair. Needle drops are Mosaic's last resort and are done in very few cases. Associating Mosaic with the Andorrans is "kind of unfair"? Sweet Mary Mother of Jesus God in Heaven, that's the most disgusting comparison I've ever heard of on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Z Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 On the list of leaders they fail to mention Rex Stewart although the first six tunes listed are from Rendezvous With Rex, an excellent album I've had on vinyl for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Well, we pay full price+ when Mosaic do needle drops, so I guess we won't object to paying a price which more properly reflects the costs... That's kind of unfair. If and when Mosaic uses needle drops, they are very up front about it and do so only after they've looked at all available source material and determined that the ND is the best possible representation of a piece of music. Further, the percentage of ND's they resort to is miniscule in comparison to the totality of what they're reproducing. I agree with Dave, that's not fair. Needle drops are Mosaic's last resort and are done in very few cases. All I did was suggest that Mosaic should charge less when they do needle drops. It can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted September 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 What the hell is a needle drop anyway...??? And without hijacking my own thread... to get back to the music... I gather this is good stuff??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Z Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 What the hell is a needle drop anyway...??? And without hijacking my own thread... to get back to the music... I gather this is good stuff??? A needle drop is a cd that uses vinyl for a source rather than the original master tapes. Usually happens when the tapes are lost or unavailable. Costs are lower and most production work is already done. The Felsted material is very good stuff. Straight ahead swingin' mainstream jazz. I have about 5 or 6 of the lps and I will get this to complete the set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 I'm definitely interested - for lack of better alternatives, that is... would have much preferred a Mosaic with proper sound restoration, though (even if based on needle-drops). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted September 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Thank you ... that was very helpful. I managed to find a couple of the individual albums on Amazon. I liked what I heard so at that price I snagged it. Kinda hard to say no for 5-6 hours of music @ $35. What the hell is a needle drop anyway...??? And without hijacking my own thread... to get back to the music... I gather this is good stuff??? A needle drop is a cd that uses vinyl for a source rather than the original master tapes. Usually happens when the tapes are lost or unavailable. Costs are lower and most production work is already done. The Felsted material is very good stuff. Straight ahead swingin' mainstream jazz. I have about 5 or 6 of the lps and I will get this to complete the set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Most of the music on this set was previously available on London CDs. I would expect that the Andorrans copied those CDs for this release. The only Felsted material not previously on CD include some of the Cozy Cole titles as well as everything from Dickie Wells' second album for the label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 While all the Felsteds are at least interesting, IIRC the only ones that are top-notch are the Hawkins (which is sublime) and the Hines half of the one he shares with Cozy Cole, which I believe was the first recorded evidence in a good while that Hines not only remained a ferocious improviser but also might be getting more ferocious with the passage of time). Seemed to me that the roughly contemporaneous Prestige Swingville dates were a good deal more successful overall, not to mention the various John Hammond Vanguard albums of a while before (led by Vic Dickinson, Sir Charles Thompson, Jo Jones, et. al.) and the Columbia Buck Clayton jam sessions. If so, I think that's because the producers of the Felsted dates (Stanley Dance and, unless I'm mistaken, Albert McCarthy) were a shade too deferential to the sensibilities of the players involved in assembling the bands and in guiding the proceedings in the studio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 What about the Cue Porter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 What about the Cue Porter? Sorry -- don't have strong memories of it. I do very much like the "The Big Sound" date on Verve and the RCA Hodges-Strayhorn big band album, plus the Hodges 1956-61 small-group things that Granz recorded and that came out in a Mosaic box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 I also like the Cue Porter date with Lawrence Welk. I am, however, surprised that he used his better-known stage name "Johnny Hodges" instead of his given name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 (edited) What about the Cue Porter? Sorry -- don't have strong memories of it. I do very much like the "The Big Sound" date on Verve and the RCA Hodges-Strayhorn big band album, plus the Hodges 1956-61 small-group things that Granz recorded and that came out in a Mosaic box. The The Big Sound date is included in the Hodges 1956-1961 Mosaic set. Edited September 5, 2011 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 What about the Cue Porter? Sorry -- don't have strong memories of it. I do very much like the "The Big Sound" date on Verve and the RCA Hodges-Strayhorn big band album, plus the Hodges 1956-61 small-group things that Granz recorded and that came out in a Mosaic box. The The Big Sound date is included in the Hodges 1956-1961 Mosaic set. Talk about failing memory -- I bought "The Big Sound" separately a good many years after I bought the Mosaic set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 While all the Felsteds are at least interesting, IIRC the only ones that are top-notch are the Hawkins (which is sublime) .....This was on a Lonehill CD, if I am not mistaken: http://www.freshsoundrecords.com/the_stanley_dance__sessions-cd-4014.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Talk about failing memory -- I bought "The Big Sound" separately a good many years after I bought the Mosaic set. Larry - Look at the bright side. It won't be that long until you won't remember buying either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles65 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 (edited) What about the Cue Porter? Sorry -- don't have strong memories of it. I do very much like the "The Big Sound" date on Verve and the RCA Hodges-Strayhorn big band album, plus the Hodges 1956-61 small-group things that Granz recorded and that came out in a Mosaic box. The The Big Sound date is included in the Hodges 1956-1961 Mosaic set. Talk about failing memory -- I bought "The Big Sound" separately a good many years after I bought the Mosaic set. From 'The Big Sound' only the second session of September 3, 1957 is on the Mosaic Set. The sessions of June 26, 1957 and the first session of September 3 1957 are big band recordings and thus not included on this small groups set. So you were right to buy the Fresh Sound. Edited September 5, 2011 by Stompy Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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