felser Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 https://www.audaud.com/charles-tolliver-charles-tolliver-all-stars-pure-pleasure-records/ Just saw this in the jazzmessengers new release email. Still looking for a CD of it... Also, Clifford Jordan's masterpiece, Glass Bead Games, in the same vinyl series. https://www.jazzmessengers.com/en/79969/clifford-jordan/glass-bead-games?mc_cid=2fecb9c998&mc_eid=d43870520b Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 Would love it on CD. There's one alternate take of a track, iirc. I think the whole session was (is?) available as mp3's off Amazon or something, iirc. But it's just about the last Toliver session I don't have on CD, if I'm remembering right. Quote
felser Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Posted March 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said: But it's just about the last Toliver session I don't have on CD, if I'm remembering right. That's also my understanding. I believe I have everything else he did as a leader on CD. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, felser said: That's also my understanding. I believe I have everything else he did as a leader on CD. Me too. Toughest one to track down (at the time about 15 years ago), was this 1977 album: Compassion (Strata-East) aka New Tolliver (Baystate). I have the 1991 German 'Bellaphon' CD issue as Compassion. But it came out in Japan again in 2009 (as New Tolliver). I've also had about 80% of all his sideman appearances on CD too at one time or another, but traded a handful of them off because of space issues with my collection. Easily on my top-10 list of my personal list of favorite trumpeters, somewhere down around #5 or #6 probably. Quote
felser Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Posted March 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said: Me too. Toughest one to track down (at the time about 15 years ago), was this 1977 album: Compassion (Strata-East) aka New Tolliver (Baystate). I have the 1991 German 'Bellaphon' CD issue as Compassion. But it came out in Japan again in 2009 (as New Tolliver). I've also had about 80% of all his sideman appearances on CD too at one time or another, but traded a handful of them off because of space issues with my collection. Easily on my top-10 list of my personal list of favorite trumpeters, somewhere down around #5 or #6 probably. I think I like his playing a lot and love his writing, and am not sure how to separate them sometimes. I'm sure Freddie Hubbard has to rate #1 for me in pure playing (favorite, I am not qualified to select "best"). And I really like Hannibal Peterson. Hannibal and Tolliver play more like Coltrane than like the usual trumpet players to me. I also really liked the VERY early Wynton Marsalis playing with Blakey. Hope that last sentence doesn't get me shamed off the website . Quote
JSngry Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 Y'all need to check out Barbara Donald then. Quote
felser Posted March 23, 2019 Author Report Posted March 23, 2019 2 hours ago, JSngry said: Y'all need to check out Barbara Donald then. Familiar with her work done with ex-husband Sonny Simmons. What else by her? I know she led a couple of dates with Carter Jefferson, et al, but I have never heard them. Quote
Pim Posted March 23, 2019 Report Posted March 23, 2019 Ordered this one immediately at our local record store. ‘Pure Pleasure Records’ is exactly that what their name states: a pure pleasure. Using the original master tapes for remastering, these sound absolutely stunning. As a matter of fact: I am replacing some of my German Bellaphon cd’s with these vinyl reissues as I really don’t like the sound of them ( Harpers Capra Black sounds dreadful). This label is making some rare Strata East records available again including their original artwork (front and back). A big plus for me is that they pay dues to the original owners of the material. Only thing that is wondering me is why they reissue this Tolliver session under Strata East. The original was issued on Polydor or Black Lion wasn’t it? I am still hoping that after Strata East, they are going to start with the India Navigition catalogue. Oh and Barbara Donald 👍 she caught my attention from the very first note on Simmons’s ESP stuff. A very good trumpeter with a great sense of timing, space and melody. A miracle she is so obscure. Quote
JSngry Posted March 23, 2019 Report Posted March 23, 2019 9 hours ago, felser said: Familiar with her work done with ex-husband Sonny Simmons. What else by her? I know she led a couple of dates with Carter Jefferson, et al, but I have never heard them. The two Cadence Jazz LPs are outstanding, not to be missed. http://www.sonnysimmons.org/donald.htm Quote
clifford_thornton Posted March 23, 2019 Report Posted March 23, 2019 13 hours ago, felser said: Familiar with her work done with ex-husband Sonny Simmons. What else by her? I know she led a couple of dates with Carter Jefferson, et al, but I have never heard them. grab 'em. Quote
felser Posted March 23, 2019 Author Report Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said: grab 'em. Wish it were that easy. I'm not really set up for vinyl at this point, and they don't seem to be available on CD or digital. Quote
Pim Posted March 23, 2019 Report Posted March 23, 2019 Did anyone see this show? What a group! http://www.bluenotejazz.com/newyork/schedule/moreinfo.cgi?id=17022 Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 24, 2019 Report Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) Just noticing that the listing on The Bastards site says that this new LP issue also has a bonus track: "Repetition (take 2)", by Neal Hefti. I though(?) there was a previous digital-only (mp3) release of this album that had some other alternate take of one of the tracks (I don't remember any bonus material being something other than an 'alternate' - but it's been eons since I've read about/considered that digital release, which I never bought). BTW, the back-sleeve liners on this new LP issue are by Michael Cuscuna, and you can zoom this image up and clearly read the whole text quite easily (at least I was able to). You might need to cut-n-paste this URL into a separate browser page to get it to appear big enough (and maybe zoom in more, on top of that). https://www.deejay.de/images/xl/4/9/349649b.jpg More info about the release here too: https://www.deejay.de/Charles_Tolliver_All_Stars_SES-19681_Vinyl__349649 And here the dusty prose about it... https://www.dustygroove.com/item/909779 Edited March 24, 2019 by Rooster_Ties Quote
jlhoots Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 Mosaic e-mail today says they have Tolliver All Stars on CD. Before I order, is this for real??? Quote
ghost of miles Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, jlhoots said: Mosaic e-mail today says they have Tolliver All Stars on CD. Before I order, is this for real??? Yes, apparently! I just called and ordered one from Scott, who confirmed with Michael that Mosaic's selling it on CD. Huzzah! Quote
jlhoots Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) Goody!! Ordered online. Fingers crossed. Edited March 27, 2019 by jlhoots Quote
felser Posted March 27, 2019 Author Report Posted March 27, 2019 Ordered that puppy online as fast as I could type! Quote
BFrank Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 I was trying to figure out if this is a Mosaic/Strata East release, or just that Mosaic is selling it. Quote
T.D. Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, BFrank said: I was trying to figure out if this is a Mosaic/Strata East release, or just that Mosaic is selling it. FWIW, the Mosaic page linked to in the e-mail leads with "Charles Tolliver All Stars Mosaic Singles" 4 hours ago, felser said: Ordered that puppy online as fast as I could type! +1. I have not been bullish on Mosaic's future, but this is a very positive sign. Edited March 27, 2019 by T.D. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 Holy unexpected developments, Batman!! Quote
ghost of miles Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, T.D. said: FWIW, the Mosaic page linked to in the e-mail leads with "Charles Tolliver All Stars Mosaic Singles" +1. I have not been bullish on Mosaic's future, but this is a very positive sign. Yes, I noticed the apparent "Mosaic Singles" branding--a series that I thought was long defunct. Would be great if it was occasionally revived for releases like this. Quote
jlhoots Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 I was afraid it was an early April Fool's joke. Apparently not. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) We'll see. I ordered this and the Webster. (Have the Armstrong and the excellent Bushkin). Edited March 27, 2019 by jazzbo Quote
greggery peccary Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 The vinyl for Tolliver is available on Amazon and importcds.com but not the CD. Importcds lists the label as "Pure Pleasure." If this was a Mosaic exclusive wouldn't they own both formats? I just ordered through Mosaic. $6 shipping for a single CD is mighty steep. Perhaps they'll ship it with the forthcoming Mobley Mosaic that I preordered.... Quote
Harbour Posted March 27, 2019 Report Posted March 27, 2019 Has someone got a link for buying the cd? cheers Quote
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