Larry Kart Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 Scott Wendholt, John Swana, Joe Magnarelli I wonder why no younger African American frumpeters are on my list. My first thought is that among them there is a fairly consistent facile/demonstrative brassiness that to some degree works against the development of individuality. One finds oneself following more or less in the the footsteps of Lee Morgan or Clifford Brown and gets sort of stuck there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Reynolds Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) My favorites Nate Wooley Peter Evans Luis Vicente Artur Majewski (not so young) Percy Pursglove Edited July 8, 2023 by Steve Reynolds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) Charlotte Keefe Emma-Jean Thackray Percy Pursglove Edited July 8, 2023 by mjazzg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 Have you listened much to Ambrose Akinmusire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin V Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Larry Kart said: Scott Wendholt, John Swana, Joe Magnarelli I wonder why no younger African American frumpeters are on my list. My first thought is that among them there is a fairly consistent facile/demonstrative brassiness that to some degree works against the development of individuality. One finds oneself following more or less in the the footsteps of Lee Morgan or Clifford Brown and gets sort of stuck there. Those three are fine trumpeters, but Magnarelli is 63, Swana 61 and Wendholt is 57, though they are younger than masters like Tolliver, Henderson, Rava, Vache, Faddis, McPhee, etc. Edited July 8, 2023 by Justin V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Larry Kart said: Scott Wendholt, John Swana, Joe Magnarelli I wonder why no younger African American frumpeters are on my list. My first thought is that among them there is a fairly consistent facile/demonstrative brassiness that to some degree works against the development of individuality. One finds oneself following more or less in the the footsteps of Lee Morgan or Clifford Brown and gets sort of stuck there. Younger than me. All great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Larry Kart said: Scott Wendholt, John Swana, Joe Magnarelli I wonder why no younger African American frumpeters are on my list. My first thought is that among them there is a fairly consistent facile/demonstrative brassiness that to some degree works against the development of individuality. One finds oneself following more or less in the the footsteps of Lee Morgan or Clifford Brown and gets sort of stuck there. All great players, but no longer young, alas! If we can drop the age to 43 we get African American Bruce Harris and at at 32 we have Benny Benack III. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 Terrell Stafford, Joe Magnarelli, Jim Rotondi Also worth consideration - Brian Lynch & Bruce Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, Peter Friedman said: Terrell Stafford, Joe Magnarelli, Jim Rotondi Also worth consideration - Brian Lynch & Bruce Williams Definitely agreed on Brian Lynch, but he's just over a year older than I (who am 65), so "younger" would have to apply in a rather restricted sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted July 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 Guess I think of those three on my list because I'm 81! I'd also like to add Josh Berman, though he plays cornet. 2 hours ago, colinmce said: Have you listened much to Ambrose Akinmusire? Not a whole lot and what I heard I couldn't stand. I 'd have to listen again to say why specifically. Another guy I couldn't stand was the guy who was Mark Turner's frontline partner a while ago. Maybe he is still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 Joan Mar Sauqué https://joanmarsauque.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted July 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 I certainly would have mentioned Jaime Branch, but she's with the angels now, damn it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: Guess I think of those three on my list because I'm 81! I'd also like to add Josh Berman, though he plays cornet. Not a whole lot and what I heard I couldn't stand. I 'd have to listen again to say why specifically. Another guy I couldn't stand was the guy who was Mark Turner's frontline partner a while ago. Maybe he is still. Jason Palmer? A (very) little Akinmusire goes a long way for me as well. Old "fartdom" I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted July 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 I'm afraid that it might have been Palmer whose live appearance in Chicago a few years ago with Mark Turner made me want to throw things (or throw up). On the other hand, at the time I also felt that the cardboard dreariness of Turner's lines might have infected his frontline partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Larry Kart said: Guess I think of those three on my list because I'm 81! I'd also like to add Josh Berman, though he plays cornet. Not a whole lot and what I heard I couldn't stand. I 'd have to listen again to say why specifically. Another guy I couldn't stand was the guy who was Mark Turner's frontline partner a while ago. Maybe he is still. Well, might be irreconcilable but if you haven’t heard him with Roscoe Mitchell that may help. Berman is a major favorite of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Larry Kart said: I certainly would have mentioned Jaime Branch, but she's with the angels now, damn it! Tis a pity, I can't think of any one even kind of young I like as well. I don't actively dislike Ambrose, but I haven't been wowed by what I heard either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 Kirk Knuffke and Taylor Ho Bynum play cornet exclusively, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, Joe said: Kirk Knuffke and Taylor Ho Bynum play cornet exclusively, correct? Close enough. They're both excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 13 hours ago, colinmce said: Well, might be irreconcilable but if you haven’t heard him with Roscoe Mitchell that may help. Berman is a major favorite of course! Has Akinmusire recorded with Roscoe? I didn't realise. I really rated AA's first album on FSNT and then the next two BNs but have cooled since. I saw a quarter at Ronnie's pre Covid and that was intense 11 hours ago, danasgoodstuff said: Tis a pity, I can't think of any one even kind of young I like as well. I don't actively dislike Ambrose, but I haven't been wowed by what I heard either. Yes, she is such a great loss. One of the most exciting live experiences of recent years seeing Fly Or Die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 2 hours ago, mjazzg said: Has Akinmusire recorded with Roscoe? I didn't realise. Yes, he plays with him regularly but I believe this has only resulted in one recording, which I enjoy quite a bit https://www.thelab.org/2018/2018/12/7/roscoe-mitchell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjazzg Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, colinmce said: Yes, he plays with him regularly but I believe this has only resulted in one recording, which I enjoy quite a bit https://www.thelab.org/2018/2018/12/7/roscoe-mitchell Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Lemuel Marc, Chris Williams, and Joe Moffett are three excellent young/younger trumpeters I don't see mentioned a lot. Knuffke and Bynum are great but Kirk is probably my age (mid-40s) and Bynum is in his 50s I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 I only know Corey Wilkes from a few records, but on those records, he's in venerable company and certainly justifies his presence. But there's more to it than that, I take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Reynolds Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) Ben LaMar Gay / but also plays cornet Seeing Peter Evans this Friday with Jessica Pavone, Brandon Lopez & Ryan Sawyer. It’s Jessica’s week at The Stone at The New School Saw his Being & Becoming quartet in the spring with Joel Ross and they were spectacular and Evans is flat out incredible. But he’s now 41 years old and has been on the scene 16 to 17 years. Edited July 10, 2023 by Steve Reynolds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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