cliffpeterson Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 According to David Haney on Facebook and Wikipedia Bob Rusch of Cadence Magazine had died. Wikipedia indicates on January 14, 2024. Yes, Bob Rusch was not an artist but it felt strange to put this under any other section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 I'd have suggested Misc. Music myself. Complicated person and history, but an important contributor in documenting the music and its players, thru the labels he founded and the interviews he published. And pre-Internet, Cadence was an important distributor/source of music I couldn't get at Sam Goody's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffpeterson Posted January 20 Author Report Share Posted January 20 Yes, I thought abut Misc. Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Damn, that's too bad. He did so much for this music. Definitely complicated... but that legacy, whew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 There can be art in anything, including creating, designing, and sustaining a "magazine". So the placement of the thread is correct imo. What I've heard about the man's "complicated" behavior is not at all complicated, it's quite repulsive. But that is the artist, not the art. Hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 yep. Fair assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 RIP and respect for the magazine, label and contributions to music. No comment on the elephant in the room beyond "it influenced my feelings". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 (edited) I remember in late '70s he called me and challenged me to convince him that Anthony Braxton wasn't "complete bullshit". Edited January 21 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 10 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: I remember in 1975 or 76 he called me and challenged me to convince him that Anthony Braxton wasn't "complete bullshit". What kind of reviews was Cadence giving him then? And who were the reviewers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 What I remember is the fact that I had to spend an inordinate amount of time convincing him that our little record store was not only interested in buying things from his distribution catalog, but that we could actually sell them. He stated that he didn’t want to “saturate” the market in my area (LOL!), but when I asked him what other stores in the area he was already dealing with, he never could come up with anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 (edited) I wrote for Cadence near the beginning of my sideline as a jazz journalist. I appreciated Bob Rusch giving me the opportunity but I was exasperated at some of his quirks, like holding reviews for six months or more, while restricting regular contributors voting best of the year releases to the titles reviewed in Cadence during that year, while the editor could choose any release for his list. The miserly compensation ($2-$4 in trade credit, even for a large boxed set, was also a reason that I finally gave up contributing to them. I didn’t know about his troublesome past until reading it in this discussion board awhile back. Edited January 22 by Ken Dryden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy T. Frog Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 (edited) I'm not as plugged in as you guys, and I must have missed discussion here about his behavior, but Cadence was an absolute formative influence on my listening two/three decades ago, and bought a lot of music by mail order from him. He must have gotten over his antipathy to Anthony Braxton since Braxton is on a number of CIMP releases. I don't recall reading anything negative about Braxton in the years I read Cadence. Update: Just searched the archives and GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Edited January 21 by Hoppy T. Frog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Not RIP. https://nypost.com/2020/07/30/three-women-accuse-ex-private-school-teacher-of-sexual-abuse-suit/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 This article is four years old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy T. Frog Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Yes but some of us (me, ahem) didn't see this news at the time. Obviously, it has a bearing on his legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 7 hours ago, Hoppy T. Frog said: He must have gotten over his antipathy to Anthony Braxton since Braxton is on a number of CIMP releases. I don't recall reading anything negative about Braxton in the years I read Cadence. Chuck is very convincing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy T. Frog Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Chuck don't release no junk on his label! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 On 1/21/2024 at 11:06 AM, kh1958 said: Not RIP. https://nypost.com/2020/07/30/three-women-accuse-ex-private-school-teacher-of-sexual-abuse-suit/ what a monster!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Yes indeed, goes way beyond the "complicated". Nothing to be celebrated here I'd say, good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 FWIW it seems like the operations of Cadence/CadNor have been handed over for awhile, so especially now I don't think that one would have to feel like they're lining his pockets by purchasing from there. Still a one of a kind resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 https://www.kyokokitamura.com/the-case-of-robert-bob-rusch/ I am thankful for Cadence and all the things that the label and magazine did, and he was the founder. He was also a very good writer and in later years he championed my writing. That felt like real validation, since I never knew or met him. He was also a very fucked up individual. It would not shock me at all if he was abused as a young person, but I do not know. I feel empathy towards those whose lives he wrecked. I think one can hold the truths of his accomplishments and his terrible actions at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 13 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said: https://www.kyokokitamura.com/the-case-of-robert-bob-rusch/ I am thankful for Cadence and all the things that the label and magazine did, and he was the founder. He was also a very good writer and in later years he championed my writing. That felt like real validation, since I never knew or met him. He was also a very fucked up individual. It would not shock me at all if he was abused as a young person, but I do not know. I feel empathy towards those whose lives he wrecked. I think one can hold the truths of his accomplishments and his terrible actions at the same time. [Emphasis added] Good points, +1 on closing paragraph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, colinmce said: FWIW it seems like the operations of Cadence/CadNor have been handed over for awhile, so especially now I don't think that one would have to feel like they're lining his pockets by purchasing from there. Still a one of a kind resource. Recently bought a DIW CD from them. Guess I don't have to feel guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, colinmce said: FWIW it seems like the operations of Cadence/CadNor have been handed over for awhile, so especially now I don't think that one would have to feel like they're lining his pockets by purchasing from there. Still a one of a kind resource. Agreed. Someone on the board (inclined to say Chuck but memory fails) reassured me on that front at least a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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