felser Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Don't think I've seen these discussed here. Descriptions below are from CDJapan: McCoy Tyner Allstar Band featuring Freddie Hubbard - Joe Henderson/Inner Glimpse Live 1986[Limited Release] CD 1800 yen US$11.97/EUR 11.03 Release Date:March 20, 2024 Description:[Machine Translation] New jazz series [GREATEST JAZZ OF ALL TIME] focusing on traditional and mainstream jazz, especially hard-pap and piano jazz, has begun! We will discover and release live recordings of masterpieces and legends from over 100 years of jazz history! McCoy Tyner's all-star band of Freddie Hubbard, Joe Henderson, Avery Sharpe, and Lewis Hayes performed in Nuremberg in 1986. The recordings feature Freddie Hubbard at the top of his game, Joe Henderson in the groove, and McCoy's dynamic piano! World's first CD release. Remastered for the first time in the world, with newly written Japanese commentary and the original jacket. Musicians: McCoy Tyner ( p ), Freddie Hubbard ( tp,flh ), Woody Shaw ( tp ), Joe Henderson ( ts ), Avery Sharp ( b ), Louis Hayes ( ds ) URL - https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/CDSOL-47909?utm_source=MAIL&utm_medium=text-genre&utm_campaign=Jazz-20240305-genre-CDSOL-47909 Woody Shaw - Joe Farrell Quintet/Vim and Vigor Live 1985[Limited Release] CD 1800 yen US$11.97/EUR 11.03 Release Date:March 20, 2024 Description:[Machine Translation] New jazz series [GREATEST JAZZ OF ALL TIME] focusing on traditional and mainstream jazz, especially hard-pap and piano jazz, has begun! We will discover and release live recordings left behind by the greats and legends in the more than 100 years of jazz history! Jazz trumpet innovator Woody Shaw recorded his album "Wim and Vigor" with Joe Farrell, known for its lost jazz cover, at a radio station in Holland, and this live performance has been miraculously released! Remastered, with newly written Japanese commentary and the original jacket. Musicians: Woody Shaw ( tp ), Joe Farrell ( ts,fl ), Gene Adler ( p ), Neil Swason ( b ), Ronnie Burrage ( ds ) URL - https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/CDSOL-47910?utm_source=MAIL&utm_medium=text-genre&utm_campaign=Jazz-20240305-genre-CDSOL-47910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 a sample? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbbfam Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Do these remain exclusively Japanese releases, or do they eventually show up from other suppliers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Here's the McCoy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Track-listings would probably sell me on either or both of these — if anyone can dig that up. Thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 2 hours ago, hbbfam said: Do these remain exclusively Japanese releases, or do they eventually show up from other suppliers? These types of things often show up at Dusty Groove, but it's carpe diem. The Woody Shaw can be preordered: https://www.dustygroove.com/item/168264/Woody-Shaw-Joe-Farrell:Vim-N-Vigor-Live-1985 and so can the Tyner: https://www.dustygroove.com/item/168263/McCoy-Tyner:Inner-Glimpse-Live-1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 My question is - do these records use the actual TV-recording audio tracks, or are they dubs from a broadcast? The question goes to the meaning of "remastered". What did they remaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 10 Author Report Share Posted March 10 6 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said: Track-listings would probably sell me on either or both of these — if anyone can dig that up. Thx! Thank you, LIbrary of Congress! Tyner: "Inner Glimpse" , "Caravan" , "Ask Me Now" https://www.loc.gov/item/jots.200161957/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 For some reason I'm "waffling" on these. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 Need more info, not willing to commit at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 Count me as more excited over possibilities contained in New jazz series [GREATEST JAZZ OF ALL TIME] focusing on traditional and mainstream jazz, especially hard-pap and piano jazz, has begun! We will discover and release live recordings of masterpieces and legends from over 100 years of jazz history! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 Well, these is a part of the Japanese Greatest Jazz of All Time series (oh those strikingly original Japanese series titles), which was inaugurated by the first-ever release of Sanders / Hicks Frankfurt concert . It was licensed through Timeless Records (a legit Dutch outfit) and sounded excellent. I am pretty sure the recordings were legally licensed directly from the broadcasters. Sanders / Hicks duo Vol. 2 is coming out this month too, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 On 3/8/2024 at 6:15 PM, felser said: hard-pap Probably my favourite jazz subgenre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 10 Author Report Share Posted March 10 3 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: Probably my favourite jazz subgenre. Yes, the CDJapan machine translations are sometimes quite humorous! Here's another gem from the Shaw post: "Woody Shaw recorded his album "Wim and Vigor" with Joe Farrell, known for its lost jazz cover" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 Not lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 (edited) 46 minutes ago, JSngry said: Not lost. Nice cover. But (perusing the back cover) that's a studio album and Woody Shaw isn't included, so the reissue in question must be something different? Despite sharing the title. 🧐 Strange. Edited March 10 by T.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 They're just confused and/ or losing it in translation. This upcoming Shaw record is from a TV show. And they play the Joe Farrell tune. But otherwise, this "lost cover" business...yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 10 Author Report Share Posted March 10 I've always found that Farrell album cover to be exploitative/creepy. But good enough album. As far as the two live sets, count me in for the CD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, T.D. said: Nice cover. But (perusing the back cover) that's a studio album and Woody Shaw isn't included, so the reissue in question must be something different? Despite sharing the title. 🧐 Strange. Edited March 10 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 7 minutes ago, jazzbo said: That's the upcoming cover right? This is not really a reissue, having never been legitimately issued at all! 37 minutes ago, felser said: I've always found that Farrell album cover to be exploitative/creepy. At least that! Cover concept by Todd Barkan and cover model...Miss Holland!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 (edited) Looks like the same photo as his album on Timeless with the Tone Jansa Quartet. Maybe makes sense given the Timeless connection discussed above. I also like the looks of it, like the bluish tint. Edited March 11 by Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 18 minutes ago, JSngry said: That's the upcoming cover right? This is not really a reissue, having never been legitimately issued at all! At least that! Cover concept by Todd Barkan and cover model...Miss Holland!!! Looks more like a bodybuilder/weightlifter than a beauty queen, which ups the weirdness/disturbing ante. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 5 hours ago, T.D. said: Looks more like a bodybuilder/weightlifter than a beauty queen, which ups the weirdness/disturbing ante. 🤔 Cover Art was not a particular strength @ Timeless 😎 .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 12 hours ago, soulpope said: Cover Art was not a particular strength @ Timeless 😎 .... Agreed. Wasn't that Pullen/Adams 'Don't Lose Control' also one of their artistic masterpieces? At least with Cedar's 'Eastern Rebellion' LPs they kept it simple and got it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 20 minutes ago, sidewinder said: Agreed. Wasn't that Pullen/Adams 'Don't Lose Control' also one of their artistic masterpieces? No, that one was on Soul Note. That cover, though puzzling, has always made me laugh because the woman pictured surely looks like a streetwalker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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