tranemonk Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Now you guys got me going... I don't have the London House sessions box but had to put on the The Trio.... I'm going to break out the new box after the semester ends!! One more week :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 okay... now you've really got me thinking... I'm suspecting the answer to this is no... but is there any duplication between the Mosaic set and the Verve 5CD set with OP and Lionel Hampton (the complete quartets and quintets)??? And does anyone have that set?? is it worth me grabbing it before that one goes OOP??? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 NO duplication. Yes, that's a great set of music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Does he play lots of notes on every tune? Can you tell which ones he thinks are important? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Trane Monk, you'll like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmonahan Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Does he play lots of notes on every tune? Can you tell which ones he thinks are important? Nah...Basie-like in his simplicity and economy of notes! greg mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasimado Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Does he play lots of notes on every tune? Can you tell which ones he thinks are important? The same question could be asked about CT ... Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bixieland Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 How are the vocals on this set? Are there a lot? Do they distract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Does he play lots of notes on every tune? Can you tell which ones he thinks are important? Would you say that about Art Tatum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I've also heard this complaint about Dave Brubeck.... :mellow: (I don't agree though...) Does he play lots of notes on every tune? Can you tell which ones he thinks are important? Would you say that about Art Tatum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Which musician in the history of jazz played the least number of notes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Didn't Paul Desmond say he was the world's slowest alto player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Which musician in the history of jazz played the least number of notes? I have a John Zorn album, Absinthe, in which he seems to play the same one soft note for the entire length of the CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Perhaps we could assign a number, such as #44, to the entire controversy which can be summarized as "I like Oscar Peterson's playing/oh, but he's an empty technician who didn't deserve as much fame as he got/wait a minute, I like his music a lot/you don't understand, he was never really that good/oh yes he was/oh no he wasn't". Then whenever someone wants to have that discussion, they can just type in "44". Everyone responding to the first post can also type in "44". That will save a lot of heartburn and anguish for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted O'Reilly Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 "43". I like him, but will let someone else have the last word, making it to "44" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Perhaps we could assign a number, such as #44, to the entire controversy which can be summarized as "I like Oscar Peterson's playing/oh, but he's an empty technician who didn't deserve as much fame as he got/wait a minute, I like his music a lot/you don't understand, he was never really that good/oh yes he was/oh no he wasn't". Then whenever someone wants to have that discussion, they can just type in "44". Everyone responding to the first post can also type in "44". That will save a lot of heartburn and anguish for all. Excellent suggestion! I will make a note of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) Does he play lots of notes on every tune? Can you tell which ones he thinks are important? Would you say that about Art Tatum? Tatum did let me know the important notes. That's the big diff for me. Edited December 31, 2008 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Does he play lots of notes on every tune? Can you tell which ones he thinks are important? Would you say that about Art Tatum? Tatum did let me know the important notes. That's the big diff for me. That's certainly the politically correct conventional wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Does he play lots of notes on every tune? Can you tell which ones he thinks are important? Would you say that about Art Tatum? Tatum did let me know the important notes. That's the big diff for me. That's certainly the politically correct conventional wisdom. Can't be many times when Chuck has been called "politically correct". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Got this box a couple of weeks ago in a local store, immediately read the lenghty introduction, but only started listening on Friday night... been on a trip, also bought 8 of OP's 9 MPS studio albums (skipped the one w/voices, I might reconsider...) and 3 of the 6 "Exclusively for My Friends" (will be looking for more... there's a nice Universal sale going on, also including quite a number of re-pressed OJCs). Anyway, I'm really turning into a fan right as we speak (well, right as I'm typing, that is). Does anyone know, are there plans for further Mosaic sets, most obviously the Ellis or Thigpen trio studio recordings? There's a hint going in this direction in McDonough's (very good, I found, but I'm an OP neophyte, so...) notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Got this box a couple of weeks ago in a local store, immediately read the lenghty introduction, but only started listening on Friday night... been on a trip, also bought 8 of OP's 9 MPS studio albums (skipped the one w/voices, I might reconsider...) and 3 of the 6 "Exclusively for My Friends" (will be looking for more... there's a nice Universal sale going on, also including quite a number of re-pressed OJCs). Anyway, I'm really turning into a fan right as we speak (well, right as I'm typing, that is). Does anyone know, are there plans for further Mosaic sets, most obviously the Ellis or Thigpen trio studio recordings? There's a hint going in this direction in McDonough's (very good, I found, but I'm an OP neophyte, so...) notes. Flurin, sorry, just remembered your mail when I read this ... sorry. Been too busy with getting into mud-wrestling fights with the state legislature. A new OP "fan"? Who might've thunk it? There's a definite need to get the OP trio with Ed Thigpen (and, of course, Ray Brown) out as a Mosaic set, hopefully with better sound than some of the Verve remasters. I'm a huge fan of the London House sessions, but (although the original tapes might leave much to be desired?) the Verve 'boxed set" (more of a layout and design clusterfuck) is just too thin in the sound department. I do believe a decent engineer can get more out of it. Some of the earlier OP CDs by Verve (f.ex. "Plays Porgy & Bess") are fabulous, sonically. I am one of the (very) few that believe that OP did better in that trio setting than the "classic" one before that. YMMV. I'd spring a huge amount for a complete (alternates at the end, not one after another as, f.ex. again, "Plays Porgy & Bess" is about as complete a gem as it stands with perfect sequencing) Mosaic boxed set. So, no need for me to answer anymore as you bought it all, hook. line and sinker? > P.S.: Glad you got with the programme. V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Perhaps we could assign a number, such as #44, to the entire controversy which can be summarized as "I like Oscar Peterson's playing/oh, but he's an empty technician who didn't deserve as much fame as he got/wait a minute, I like his music a lot/you don't understand, he was never really that good/oh yes he was/oh no he wasn't". Then whenever someone wants to have that discussion, they can just type in "44". Everyone responding to the first post can also type in "44". That will save a lot of heartburn and anguish for all. Excellent suggestion! I will make a note of this. Reminds me of a Doonesbury cartoon from the late 70s where Boopsie goes down to visit Graceland after Elvis' death. She's at a bouquet shop in Memphis, trying to order a flower arrangement for Elvis' grave-site. She gives a rather elaborate order to a harried-looking clerk, and then pauses at the end, saying, "But I want it to be...to be..." "Tasteful?" he inquires. She says yes, whereupon he turns to the back and yells, "Harry! Gimme an E-47, without the motor!" FWIW I'm really digging the OP set, and I think he's perhaps less "florid"--is that the word I'm looking for--then he is on the later Verve recordings. More E-47, without the motor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I admit not being a big fan of OP, but I also admit to know owning a single recording of his music. My exposure to him is very limited and this thread is making me question why I didn't care for him. I'm not ready to purchase his Mosiac but I would be willing to get one of his recordings from eMusic. Can someone recommend a CD or two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 That is a GREAT photo!!! If I had to pick a few.... :wacko: I'd probably recommend the Live at the Blue Note boxed set available on Telarc... It's 4 cd's you can probably get for under $30.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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