jazzbo Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 No weirder than Django playing oboe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 well, that's Mitch Miller ... maybe DSM merged Bird and him there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I knew it was Mitch, looking rather Djangoesque in that photo. I don't know what DSM was thinking. . . or if he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 well, I knew you knew but still we didn't have a pic of Miller in this thread yet (or it's hosted on a site that doesn't show on my work computer?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 got them on individual LPs a long time ago, japanese Verve, quite expensive then. Oh yeah, that cover art was typical for Verve. Strange paintings, and quite short liner notes, not very representative for the music, not like those Ira Gitler or someone of that category would write.... Some of it sounded quite commercially for me, most of all "Temptation", more like Hollywood movie from the 50´s than Bird.... Never really focused on the cover art before. Now all I can see is that Bird appears to be wearing black gloves and has a huge penis! <script src="safari-extension://com.ebay.safari.myebaymanager-QYHMMGCMJR/61123618/background/helpers/prefilterHelper.js" type="text/javascript"> </script> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Haha look at bird hes so drunk he thinks hes joe maini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 This shit is nuts, the second session in particular. The arrangements do things inside themselves that are so fucking dissociative to each other, and Bird just goes ahead and plays perfectly over them. But the more I listen to the innards, the more and more I find myself asking why THAT? To paraquote Jo Stafford, are you sure that was the best choice? I dig Joe Lipman, Como Swings a minor miracle/major triumph, but this is not that (although, reference the end of "Temptation" - a later not purely stings affair, and yeah, ok, that's more like it). And hello Bernie Leighton, sometimes CRUNCH popping up from the inside, totally "inappropriate", but as far as that goes just wtf was the OBJECT of this game, did anybody really figure that out in a way past make some records of Bird with strings and then make some more? Barbecue even on a pop level, this ain't Axel Stordahl writing for Sinatra, that shit held together from beginning to end, THIS stuff makes the sound but not the music. But still, Bird, FTW, always, even/especially with this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 The advantage of the Rockland Palace dates is that the balance favours Parker at the expense of the strings. Still I'm intrigued to hear more Parker , especially as I don't have Parker with Strings in any issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 As much as I love Bird, I'm almost tempted to let this one pass me by. Time will tell, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Give in. Get it. Don't worry about the strings (and more oboe than you can shake a reed at) , Bird sings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yeah, as David Sanborn puts in in the liners, Bird "explains the melodies". Never heard it put quite like that before, but, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Also pick up Charlie Parker at Birdland and Cafe Society. As Bird himself says, "we sincerely hope you will enjoy WITHOUT STRINGS Just Friends, April in Paris, Summertime" Bird is in top form! Edited May 22, 2015 by John L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 How many leaders of that era used the phrase "we sincerely hope you (will) enjoy" in their introductions? That must have been some kind of a thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 How many leaders of that era used the phrase "we sincerely hope you (will) enjoy" in their introductions? Paul McCartney in 1964, for one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Definitely a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasimado Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 As Bird says it, it sounds pretty classy. Is there a problem with that? Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Blakey sure took it and ran with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed S Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) got them on individual LPs a long time ago, japanese Verve, quite expensive then. Oh yeah, that cover art was typical for Verve. Strange paintings, and quite short liner notes, not very representative for the music, not like those Ira Gitler or someone of that category would write.... Some of it sounded quite commercially for me, most of all "Temptation", more like Hollywood movie from the 50´s than Bird.... The artwork is by David Stone Martin. I'm personally a fan of his covers. More can be seen here" https://www.google.com/search?q=david+stone+martin+verve&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=2xRfVeWxAY-AygSZz4DoBg&ved=0CCUQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=952#imgrc=_ Edited May 22, 2015 by Ed Swinnich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I like Plas Johnson and Strings. Imagine if Charlie Parker had done an album with Les Baxter, although the Chico O'Farrill sides come close. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YXX3RZ5uoTw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 well, that's Mitch Miller ... maybe DSM merged Bird and him there? Hey -- in that photo Mitch isn't playing oboe but English horn, right? One of the better "with strings" jazz albums is this one, with Dick Hyman charts (worked out in collaboration with Flip) played by top NYC freelancers and recorded by RVG: http://www.amazon.com/Little-Tenderness-Flip-Phillips-Strings/dp/B000QQTS3I/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1432342759&sr=8-1&keywords=flip+phillips+strings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Chuck hipped me to this (credit where credit is due): Strings are thoughtfully and imaginatively arranged, and Lee Konitz is at or near the top of his game. One to seek out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtSalt Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 You can't go wrong with a bit of strings, well, actually the Chet Baker album's not so great! My Mother-in-law really loves the Parker with strings, I just put on April in Paris on and she's sent. The only other jazz album that works for her is Don Pullen's Ode To Life. I will definitely get this album for the alternative takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 I've always liked the Chet with strings record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 I suspect my feelings about Wynton Marsalis are a matter of record here, but I'll put Hot House Flowers at or near the top of any "jazz with strings" date where the focus is popular song. Credit for that goes entirely to Bob Freedman, those arrangements are da' bomb, as they getting older folks used to say. Freedman writing for Grady Tate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Reynolds Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 Not a big fan of "with strings" in general but I do love "Strings with Evan Parker" No very much at all in the same realm as any of the above:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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