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Gil Melle - Gil's Guests

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Ok, new to me. Not so I imagine to many of you fellas. Anyways, probably one of my nicer purchases recently. Scored this on Discogs for $12 and change and I am really enjoying hearing this. I guess one could classify this as cool school, correct me if I'm wrong? I don't own his Blue Note dates, so this was my initial landing point. I guess I should probably look into those recordings as well. That said, if you don't already own this, perhaps this might be something of interest? I imagine this will get numerous listens in the coming weeks. Very nice. Certainly a fine lineup for these sessions. August '56 and January '57. Please post your thoughts and impressions.

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I categorize Melle's music as simply "intelligent."  He had a good brain, and wrote things that probably no one else would have.  His work doesn't strike me as self-consciously "inventive," and his writing never screams out "look at me!"  But it's lively and...how can I put this?  There's just more music crammed in 8 bars than most other people's music.  Intelligent.  I like his work a lot (I have the Prestiges on mp3s and the Blue Note twofer).

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I love the albums on this one and the Blue Notes, amazing, underheralded stuff.

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:tup Interesting how Melle hooked up with two distinctive and somewhat related guitarists -- Cinderella and Lou Mecca.

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5 hours ago, Larry Kart said:

:tup Interesting how Melle hooked up with two distinctive and somewhat related guitarists -- Cinderella and Lou Mecca.

... they succeeded none less than Tal Farlow in his band, I think.

I'm not playing Mellé's sides very often, but I enjoy them whenever I do. I know his Blue Note material better than the two Prestige albums (plus CD bonus material with disputed personnel - link to previous discussion below) so far.

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I am familiar with Gil's film and TV work, but not any "jazz."  Unless Tome VI counts, but that strikes me more as a soundtrack for a film that doesn't exist.

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Love his tribute to Herbie Nichols on this record.

I actually prefer his Prestige material to the Blue Notes -- feel like that's really when he came into his own as a composer. PRIMITIVE MODERN and QUADRAMA are both superb dates.

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2 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said:

I am familiar with Gil's film and TV work, but not any "jazz."  Unless Tome VI counts, but that strikes me more as a soundtrack for a film that doesn't exist.

This material is very very different from Tome VI.  I greatly prefer this.

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11 hours ago, Larry Kart said:

:tup Interesting how Melle hooked up with two distinctive and somewhat related guitarists -- Cinderella and Lou Mecca.

5 hours ago, king ubu said:

... they succeeded none less than Tal Farlow in his band, I think.

I'm not playing Mellé's sides very often, but I enjoy them whenever I do. I know his Blue Note material better than the two Prestige albums (plus CD bonus material with disputed personnel - link to previous discussion below) so far.

 

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Some of Gil's lines are delightfully and/or insidiously memorable. For example, "Threadneedle Street" from the album with Don Butterfield. As for Tal -- he's a giant, but IMO both Cinderella and Mecca brought something to Gil's music that was more distinctive than what the pretty much fully formed Tal brought.

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My chronology with Melle was hearing him on Night Gallery first, then Andromeda Strain, then on Tome VI, and then, finally finding out that he "used to be" a "jazz guy". So it's been an adjustment of sorts for me to hear these jazz records of his in their actual chronological context.

I like Tome VI, not so much for the music as for the notion of "Jazz Electronauts" being something that didn't involve gimmicky clothes on the cover and stuff like that. It was an honest look at applying electronics to the music and then the music proceeding from that. It wasn't just the same thing only with goofy plugins.

 

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8 hours ago, king ubu said:

... they succeeded none less than Tal Farlow in his band, I think.

I'm not playing Mellé's sides very often, but I enjoy them whenever I do. I know his Blue Note material better than the two Prestige albums (plus CD bonus material with disputed personnel - link to previous discussion below) so far.

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Tal could not sight read music at that period. Cinderella was a big studio musician in NY at that time, and could sight read very well, which was important for Melle's music.

Mecca could also read better than Tal. Mecca hasn't recorded much, but I've heard recordings where he sounded fine, and other recordings where he sounded not so fine.

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I've heard very little Mecca, but do like this one quite a bit:

Image result for lou mecca blue note

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8 hours ago, felser said:

This material is very very different from Tome VI.  

I assumed so.  Thanks for the warning. 

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5 hours ago, JSngry said:

My chronology with Melle was hearing him on Night Gallery first, then Andromeda Strain, then on Tome VI, and then, finally finding out that he "used to be" a "jazz guy". So it's been an adjustment of sorts for me to hear these jazz records of his in their actual chronological context.

This is basically my chronology also. 

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4 hours ago, felser said:

I've heard very little Mecca, but do like this one quite a bit:

Image result for lou mecca blue note

He became a chiropractor, and completely dropped out of the scene. I remember putting him down to Larry K. here, but I heard him again recently on ATTYA, and enjoyed his playing a lot more than I had when I initially heard him years ago.

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13 hours ago, Joe said:

Love his tribute to Herbie Nichols on this record.

I actually prefer his Prestige material to the Blue Notes -- feel like that's really when he came into his own as a composer. PRIMITIVE MODERN and QUADRAMA are both superb dates.

I was also thinking about this release, but might wait for a better price than what is available presently on Amazon. 

Primitive Modern / Quadrama

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