Chuck Nessa

They played at 16 rpm - not much software for them.

A great Salinger site/book would have no contents.

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thank somebody's god I was smoking jazz dope in those years.

this thread is not taking the turn I was anticipating.

Thanks for reminding me.

whatever.

So the sequence is NO, Chi, NYC and Europe. Where does the wc come in?

Cab dropped his pants to show the scar to a bunch of us. In the lobby of the Blackstone Hotel.

For the price Kirby charges they should send a technician to your house to do the job.

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Maybe you should start a Louis Metcalf thread.

Cubs won again.

I like Snickers.

The example I gave was of a new recording, with the artists paid, the photographer paid, the graphic designer paid, the printer paid, the pressing plant paid - all in front.

Good points Chuck but if the prices dropped initially and then creeped up to where we are today, that might have been easier to swallow. I've never self-released/produced any of my CDs. I get them from my label(s) for $6-$7 and just don't take that big of a profit margin. I do sell them for more in Europe and in Japan (where most of my gigs are anyway) but still under market value and there I double my money and I'm satisfied with that. I'm not sure I can get with the more music more money thing though. Maybe that is a publishing royalties issue but I think CDs are too long anyway. I don't think I'm happier paying $18.99 for a CD if there is 70 minutes of music instead 50. I think 50-60 minutes is plenty of music for a CD with a few exceptions. There is one motto an industry guy came up with that summed up his feeling about the length of CDs and the current crop of new jazz artists; twice the music, half the talent. I, of course don't agree with this though I do see the point at times. Some re-issue LPs on CD and sell them for $18.99 so a CD could conceivably cost twice as much as the LP issue. What was the introductory price for CDs when they were first introduced, $14.99? Still a bit of a markup from what LPs cost and within a couple of years of their introduction they were cheaper to manufacture but the price stayed the same or went up. If I go to Amazon, my new CD is $18.99 and most Blue Note re-issues are under $10. While I'm on a smaller label and it is hard for them to compete with the majors, that is a huge price difference and I'm certainly the more unknown entity that needs the price reduction so someone might take a chance on me. I shop and I don't take any chances at $18.99. I'll take a few at $9.99 at the used CD shop though. When the Bad Plus released their first CD on Sony, the CD had a list price of $9.99 which really capitalized on the hype they were getting. People were reading about them and hearing about them and were more likely to investigate at $9.99 then $15.99. It helped launch them. Here's the real deal - I sell my cds to a distributor for 7.75 and I pay the shipping. This nets out at about 7.50. The sales terms are 90 days, eom. This means when i ship cds on July 20, I get paid around December 15. Amazon lists my cds for at least a buck more than other sites. I am not the Bad Plus.

Doesn't mean they made that many. It might have been the plan but the real market intrudes.

edit to say I was responding to David. I don't accept your premise that prices are too high. At the end of the lp era (20 years ago) the price of a 35-40 minute lp was close to $10. Consider inflation. If I accept your premise and prices should have dropped on cds, the giant reduction in sales has kept the price high - as has the yearly jump in publishing royalties. I am working on a new release and the budget for it. When I get it issued, I will have to sell more than I have sold of any cd just to break even - not counting my time. Just don't ask why I keep doing it. It is a whole different ballgame when you are talking about artist produced cds sold at the gig. The budgets do not compare. This is part of my problem.

Guess you didn't read my post, though I never heard of vibrasonic.

No, that one of a series of Garland quintet dates.

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The limitations of the lp format are rarely discussed.

Since CA isn't here anymore: Buy a Mac.

I was hoping for a 1954 set - IMO, a classic period for Miles. Guess I'll live with my cdrs.