Chuck Nessa

FWIW, Patrick Gleeson was an "employee" of mine in the early '70s. I was regional manager of a chain of record stores and he was a clerk in our store on 8th St in NYC.

I am really torn by this discussion. One thing that helps make the US a decent place to live is the adversary court system. The government (federal to local) has a larger burden as they should. I'm always disappointed by dissenters to this situation. We (as a civilization) may lose a few but we ultimately win as a result. We, as a society, win more from Cochran's victory.

Great idea for a thread. Don't forget Buddy Tate in this context, and no mention of Jack McVea - both transitional fingures but........... Now I hope the following doesn't highjack the thread, but I'm a big Julian Dash fan too and think it is a shame his MJR lp has not been reissued. I think it is a "classic". He's also a fine contributor (in tandem with Tate) to a Jay McShann date for MJR (this one is available). Now back the original topic.

No the more I think about it, 1981 seems correct.

Yes, one of each. I'm not certain about the date but it was at a Jazz Times convention in DC. Billboard covered the new contract in a big way - first time and all that crap.

Which one? Even his record company (Columbia) gave him 2 contracts at one time. Wasn't that Verve/Mercury? They might have done it too but I was at a place where Bruce Lundvall and Herbie were discussing the contract(s) they'd just signed. This was around '81.

Which one? Even his record company (Columbia) gave him 2 contracts at one time.

Sure. B-)

Can anyone post a "positive" message to this thread without all kinds of "qualifications"?

Do you really think so? "Houston, we have a problem".

Had 'em, didn't much care for them. What did you expect.

She was a "killer" club act. Saw her a couple of times in "confined quarters".

Oh!

Of what?

Chuck - do you mean all of Herbie's 70's output or just the funky Headhunters and onwards stuff? There is a world of difference between the Mwandishi band material (71-73) and the later albums. Not so much funk - but more a serious and highly evolved usage of electronics combined with world percussion and pretty avant-garde jazz. Its a unique period - documented on other albums such as Eddie Henderson's 'Realization' and 'Inside Out' sessions for Capricorn, Julien Priester's ECM album 'Love Love', Bennie Maupin's ECM album 'Jewel and the Lotus' and Norman Connors first 3 albums for Cobblestone. Very far removed from the fusion-funk of the mid-70's - this is ethereal stuff - a heady mixture of free-jazz, afro-centrism, new electronic musical technology and recording techniques. The whole Mwandishi vibe lasted just 2 years - the reasons for Herbie abandoning it are told in his sleevenotes to the recent Headhunters CD remaster. KD You did not mention a single piece of music in my collection. Sorry. PS: I have heard all this stuff - got promos of most of it and gave it away. Not proud, just factual.

Back in the '80s I was driving on the Kennedy Expressway (Chicago) and the guy next to me motioned to my roof. I exited asap and discovered my briefcase on top of the car. I had driven about 5 miles.

Yeah but that means you've performed with Bob Wilber too.

Roscoe's Sound Songs on Delmark is terrific too.

Rockland Palace and Howard Theater.

Very good.

I voted for "other" since my choice influenced by Dan's poll is pastrami and rye - mustard is just an added flavor to this combo. Second choice is the choc/pnb filtered through a peanutbutter cup. All praise to the Carnegie Deli and the Reese's folks.

They claim otherwise, but....................

I have absolutely no interest in this music. So, I'm an old fart for a bunch of you. B-) If I want funk, I go for the blues.

I'd be ready to hear a copy - I think the Schaap version is a crime. Have you heard what our Andoran "friends" have done?

Good luck to all concerned.