colinmce

I've noticed especially in the last couple years as vinyl prices have soared that many once-common CDs like RVGs and OJCs are becoming more and more pricy. While developments like the Tone Poet series are quite welcome, the basic fact is that the near total majority of 20th century jazz is out of print on CD by the official rights holders, and will very likely remain that way in perpetuity. Maybe we'll get to a point where CDs lose their value entirely to the buying public and the prices will stabilize. But given the incentives of the current secondhand market, it's also possible that prices will only increase, or that if this happens many resellers won't even bother to list them online. I don't really know what this means for the long-term future of this music. Long way around to saying that if you're interested in owning these albums at this point, I don't know what a good answer is.

Yes, I've listened to it 5 or 6 times so far and I really enjoy it. But it also sounds more like a rehearsal tape or demo than an actual album. I'm glad it's out there, but it's also very apparent why it was never released.

Futterman is an acquired taste, and a little can go a long way. That said Naked Colours on Silkheart with Russell, Robert Adkins, and Jay Oliver is an all-timer for me, so I’m looking forward to diving into that one.

The upcoming FS batch is very promising: Crispell/Fonda/Sorgen Graewe/Lonberg-Holm/Gratkowski Futterman solo Futterman/Hal Russell 3xCD

The least interesting Mingus date by far imo. I guess that's a choice.

I didn’t realize this set was out there. Just picked one up and am looking forward to digging in. Thanks!

I haven't felt too keen on the Blue Note sets from the last couple years since I have all of that already, but I may make an exception for the Sonny Clark, not just on the sheer strength of the catalog, but also because I think in this case I am missing a few of the trio sides, which have always been a muddle to me. I have Sonny Clark Trio, Blues In The Night, and Standards, but I think that has me missing a few things from the Art of the Trio King LP and maybe something more here or there. I'd be interested to hear if there's anything extra thrown in as well.

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Yes, that’s what worked for me too. a bit more to add, though the article is also a nice long profile of Jamal’s life and music: The “Emerald City Nights” albums come from the period when Jamal had just returned to touring, and his piano playing — always centered on finely wrought patterns and spare, interwoven phrases — was growing more lush. The Penthouse was one of his favorite clubs to play, so the new collections showcase Jamal in a number of different engagements, with a variety of trio lineups. The tracks include Jamal originals like “Minor Moods”; contributions from his bandmates; jazz standards by Cole Porter and Benny Golson; and pop ditties like “Feeling Good,” performed here just months before Nina Simone’s famous rendition was released. On “(1965-66),” one side features a particularly exciting (and rarely recorded) lineup: the drummer Vernel Fournier, whose famous beat had set the gamboling foundation for “Poinciana,” and the bassist Jamil Nasser, one of Jamal’s most consistent collaborators in the 1960s and ’70s. “He supervised every part of this production: listening to the music, ID-ing the tracks,” Feldman said of Jamal’s involvement in the archival release.

This is even better news: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/31/arts/music/ahmad-jamal-live-albums.html

Agreed, there have been a lot of great ones since this imprint started up. As for the Revisited line, I do think the Ayler items are legit as he's been working with Ayler's estate since the hatOLOGY era and there's a tangible value in having this music available and in the best possible SQ. I wish he would've done more/better with Fontana. The Blue Note and Impulse! items, as well as the live Trane & Miles stuff, is ludicrous to me.

I also think about it all the time.

Interesting post on Facebook: "I recently found this at a thrift store here in WA. Charles Mingus live at the Tyee Motor Lodge, Tumwater WA 1977. I have since had it professionally digitized by a master archivist and am in contact with the Mingus estate to see about releasing it. It’s rough in spots, but there’s some magic on there too. Including a 46 minute burner of Sue’s Changes. I can post MP3 of it once I get the copyright". https://www.facebook.com/groups/1110595615993343/posts/1838289456557285/ The group on the tape box is listed as: Bob - piano (I'm assuming Bob Neloms) Ricky Ford - tenor sax Jack Wallace - trumpet (I'm assuming Jack Walrath) Danny Richmond - drums This would track with the band on the July 1977 tape from Spain, three months after this Washington date. https://www.discogs.com/release/9300074-Charles-Mingus-Quintet-Spain-77 There is also a broadcast from France with this group that's quite good

The 25 minute piece with John Tchicai on the Long Story Short box is my favorite example of the group. Another one at the top is "All Things Being Equal" from Images; a 37 minute masterpiece. Otherwise: per what Clifford said above, my favorite individual albums are the two with William Parker & Roy Campbell: A Short Visit To Nowhere and Broken English. I have yet to hear the two volumes of American Landscapes, At Molde 2007, and quite regrettably Walk Love Sleep; I missed it when it came out and the Smalltown Superjazz catalog seems to have evaporated from availability almost overnight.

Some great sides by the Charlie Ventura/Gene Krupa/Teddy Napoleon group. The title track of Ted Nash's Sidewalk Meeting (a very underrated downtown album) is a trio with Gordon in incredible form, Nash on bass clarinet, and Miri-Ben Ari on viola. It's a beautiful tune.

My first were Out To Lunch! and Unit Structures, both purchased at the same time. I think Smokestack was the third.

A borderline impossible ask but off the cuff: Personal top 5, simply in terms of the importance of the music to me, less so as a full picture of what BN has to offer in full (and with some CD-era cheating included): The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Herbie Nichols Sonny Rollins - A Night At The Village Vanguard (Complete) Jackie McLean - One Step Beyond Bobby Hutcherson - Dialogue Ornette Coleman - At The "Golden Circle" Stockholm Vols. 1 & 2 What I might tell a newcomer, roughly trying to choose 1 album from each era (as much as I like the pre-bop BN recordings, you can hear that style to better advantage elsewhere): J.J. Johnson - The Eminent J.J. Johnson Vols. 1 & 2 (bop) Hank Mobley - Hank Mobley Quintet (hard bop) Baby Face Wilette - Face To Face (soul jazz) Joe Henderson - Page One (post-Coltrane) Don Cherry - Complete Communion (avant) ack I'm already dying inside

Nimbus made a couple interesting forays outside the US into the Dutch zone-- Curtis Clark's Dream Deferred and Ernst Reijseger & Alan Purves - TA are both excellent.

I’ve been wondering this myself but the lack of it so far— or the Khan Jamal & Byard Lancaster titles— had me wondering if these were somehow not in the scope of the series, or if there were rights issues. Would love to see that happen if it’s possible.

Roach by far. I have an appreciation for the Jazz Messengers, and I have nearly all of the albums from the 50s and 60s, but I've never found them very exciting-- Roach's dates are the complete opposite, always crackling. Just my opinion; especially in the 60s JMs are too laced up for my taste with a few exceptions.

Great, great news. This is the same label that did the excellent Black Unity Trio reissue a couple years back. https://www.gottagroovestore.com/product/abdul-wadud-by-myself/ Now if we could just get Abdul Al-Hannan's The Third World ....

I keep it filed because I don't feel like I have enough Paul Bley records to listen to and enjoy haha. Two sides of a coin. Does this mean you don't have any KJ?

Incredible footage, thanks for sharing. I hadn't seen that before.

I noticed this interesting release on today's Jazz Messengers email: https://www.jazzmessengers.com/en/90829/brew-moore/special-brew

Interesting. I appreciate the CD issue on this, I will pick it up as I only have the RVG.