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I have to agree This is one of the few occasions that a Mosaic set has been eclipsed by a "competitor" (and an impudent Spanish label at that !) The Nocturne booklet is a real labour of love - it even contains a photo of Jordi Pujol with Shorty Rogers.

Thanks again, everyone, for sorting this out Can now readjust my PJ discography database

If you email CAM (simone@camscores.com) they will send you a list of what CD's are now only available as CDR's as more CD's go out OOS (& will probably not repress them) I presume the list will get bigger

Hope this hasn't already been covered but can anyone comment on the UK Avid (Jazz) label Have been buying some of their twofers (contain 4 LP's) - Anita O'Day, Al Cohn, Zoot Sims - great value with excellent sound quality; good prices via UK Amazon Looking forward to the upcoming Johnny Hodges release (4 early 50's Clef/Norgran LP's) Mostly 50's LP's that would be difficult to obtain otherwise (unless you have the Mosaic boxes). How legitimate are these releases (are they needle drops or do they have access to the tapes?) - is the situation similar to the Proper sets ?? (just picked up the 4CD Kenton Era box - fantastic sound quality & packed with 40's kenton material - similar to the OOP Mosaic set but with less tracks)

PM sent re Albert Ayler, “The First Recording”, vol. 2 (DIW) [trio]

Have just moved this thread over from recommendations since we are dealing with box sets CAM will be releasing (or may have already released) 4 box sets - Charlie Haden, Enrico Rava, Henry Threadgill and Enrico Pieranunzi Looks like we will have a plethora of Threadgill/Air material (Black Saint & Mosaic sets) in the near future - looking forward to that Regarding the recent BS/SN boxed sets, below is a reply I just received from CAM Dear Stephen, thank you for you email. Concerning the Box Set collection, including albums by some of the artist who partecipated in the success of Soul Note & Black Saint (Charlie Haden, Enrico Rava, Henry Threadgill and Enrico Pieranunzi) ,will be in Exclusive Distribution of HARMONIA MUNDI IINTRANTIONAL. For information: info.arles@harmoniamundi.com Best Regards Simone C.A.M. S.r.l. (Mr.) Simone Vendittelli (Export Department) THE COMPLETEREMASTERED RECORDINGS ON BLACK SAINT & SOUL NOTE 1. CHARLIE HADEN 5 CD SET BXS 1001 OLD AND NEW DREAMS A TRIBUTE TO BLACKWELL ETUDES SILENCE FIRST SONG 2. ENRICO RAVA 5 CD SET BXS 1002 IL GIRO DEL GIORNO IN 80 MONDI ANDANADA RAVA STRING BAND SECRETS ELECTRIC FIVE 3. THREADGILL 7 CD SET BXS 1003 LIVE AIR AIR MAIL LIVE AT MONTREAL INTERNATIONAL JAZZ FESTIVAL AIR SHOW NO. 1 SPIRIT OF NUFF...NUFF SONG OUT OF MY TREES FLUTISTRY 4. ENRICO PIERANUNZI 6 CD SET BXS 1004 ISIS DEEP DOWN NO MAN’S LAND FLUX AND CHANGE SEAWARD MA L’AMORE NO

Regarding the recent BS/SN boxed sets, below is a reply I just received from CAMS Dear Stephen, thank you for you email. Concerning the Box Set collection, including albums by some of the artist who partecipated in the success of Soul Note & Black Saint (Charlie Haden, Enrico Rava, Henry Threadgill and Enrico Pieranunzi) ,will be in Exclusive Distribution of HARMONIA MUNDI IINTRANTIONAL. For information: info.arles@harmoniamundi.com Best Regards Simone C.A.M. S.r.l. (Mr.) Simone Vendittelli (Export Department) THE COMPLETEREMASTERED RECORDINGS ON BLACK SAINT & SOUL NOTE 1. CHARLIE HADEN 5 CD SET BXS 1001 OLD AND NEW DREAMS A TRIBUTE TO BLACKWELL ETUDES SILENCE FIRST SONG 2. ENRICO RAVA 5 CD SET BXS 1002 IL GIRO DEL GIORNO IN 80 MONDI ANDANADA RAVA STRING BAND SECRETS ELECTRIC FIVE 3. THREADGILL 7 CD SET BXS 1003 LIVE AIR AIR MAIL LIVE AT MONTREAL INTERNATIONAL JAZZ FESTIVAL AIR SHOW NO. 1 SPIRIT OF NUFF...NUFF SONG OUT OF MY TREES FLUTISTRY 4. ENRICO PIERANUNZI 6 CD SET BXS 1004 ISIS DEEP DOWN NO MAN’S LAND FLUX AND CHANGE SEAWARD MA L’AMORE NO

Thanks for all the help to summarise, it appears that There is only one version of "Bones for Zoot" (5:40 - recorded March 59 & released on Jazz Immortal - PJ 3, ST 20139 & possibly PJ 1214 - waiting on this one) & is an edited version (or possibly alternate take) of "Brushes" (4:21 - released on PJ 20 - Zoot Sims Choice). An edited version appears more likely knowing Richard Bock's history of "tweaking" the PJ tape stash over the years. Sorry but I switched the timings - Bones for Zoot should be 4:21 & Brushes 5:40

According to the Lord data you posted (where exactly did you get it?) The Source I am using is the Lord Discography, Version 8.0 (I have the disc) Maybe somebody else with a more reliable discographical source can clear this up completely. My "Main Man" when it comes to sorting out Pacific Jazz problems is James Harrod - he's in the process of writing a text on the label (including discography). Hopefully he'll see this thread

I've copied extracts from the Lord Discography, stating that there are two versions of Bones For Zoot, one from 54 with Annie Ross vocal (sextet) and another from 59 (Sims/Freeman Quintet). The 54 "version" was made at the end of a Clifford Brown Session sans CB (?). The discography also claims that the two versions were on similar LP's (PJ 3, ST 20139). I strongly suspect that there is only one version (but which one?). I used to own the Clifford Brown LP ST 20139 but don't remember which version was on that LP) & I've never owned the US version of AR's A Gassser (have a TOCJ version without the extra tracks) - what version is on the CD?? Is there actually a vocal version? Annie Ross With Sextet: Annie Ross (vcl) acc by Stu Williamson (tp) Zoot Sims (ts) Bob Gordon (bar) Russ Freeman (p) Carson Smith (b) Shelly Manne (d) Los Angeles, August 13, 1954 Bones for Zoot Pacific Jazz PJ3, PJ19, LN10126, World Pacific ST20139, Affinity (E)AFF129 Note: Other titles by Clifford Brown. Zoot Sims-Russ Freeman Quintet: Zoot Sims (ts) Russ Freeman (p) Billy Bean (g-1) Jim Hall (g-2) Monty Budwig (b) Mel Lewis (d) Los Angeles, March, 1959 You're driving me crazy (1) Jazz West Coast JWC(ST)511, ST1031, Vogue (E)LAE12235, Pacific Jazz PJ20 Brushes (2) World Pacific WP1261, Jazz West Coast JWC(ST)1022 Vogue (E)LAE12227, Pacific Jazz PJ20 Funky old blues (1) Pacific Jazz PJ20, Jazz West Coast JWC(ST)512, ST1021, Vogue (E)LAE12224, LAE12227 Bones for Zoot (2) Pacific Jazz PJ3, PJ20139, Fontana (E)FJL123,(Eu)JCL683.270 First 3 titles also on Vogue (E)LAE12309, EMI Pacific Jazz (Jap)LLR-88035, GXF-3110, PJ-0020, TOCJ-5426 [CD]. All above titles also on Pacific Jazz CDP7-46854-2 [CD] titled "Annie Ross - A gasser !"; see Annie Ross, February-March 1959 for rest of CD.

Have just obtained a few CD's from Peter Ind's site/label (UK based). For those unaware Peter was a core member of the Tristano/Marsh/Konitz axis. He has been releasing material (mostly taped by himself, some live, some studio) on his Wave label since the 60's. A large amount of it has now been transferred to CD - sound quality is excellent. If you're a Warne Marsh fan there are a number of CD's in the catalogue worth picking up - Release Record, Send Tape (Wave CD 06), More Jazz From The East Village (Wave CD 10), London Concert with Lee Konitz (Wave CD 16) The site has just commenced paypal transactions, now making it much easier for CD purchases Peter replies personally & very promptly to any inquiries My link the above site is preferable to the peterindWavejazz site

I know this is a long shot but does anyone out there have decent spare copies of the first & second discs from the Giuffre Mosaic box. Recently picked up the set (actually on this forum) in lovely condition but sans Discs 1 & 2 (have CDR's of these). Would be nice to complete the set with the original discs. Have tried Mosaic without luck. Happy to trade (have a decent list) or pay $$ Please PM me if interested

There's another session on DIME with Johnny Griffin : Thanks ubu - Somehow, I missed that one.. Have just downloaded this session (Cologne Sept 68) - sound quality is excellent; it appears to be from two different concerts

Thanks everyone for the links & info have downloaded the Montmartre material via the above site & am in the process of sourcing the Griffin/Mobley concert via Dimeadozen

Have just finished reading Derek Ansell's very interesting recent publication on Hank Mobley. A man shrouded in mystery, especially in his last years. I didn't realise he spent so much time in Europe/UK & am surprised there is so little recorded material from that period. The Europeans for the most part thoroughly documented (audio & televised) visting US Jazz musicians. Was Hank considered more obscure?? - I can't imagine that, especially with his numerous Blue Note releases & Hard Bop affiliations. Derek mentions a live recording (boot) he has listened to from the Cafe Montmartre with HM stretching out on extended versions of some of his compositions - would love to hear this. Hank also played engagements at Ronnie Scotts (67 & 68)- some of this must have been recorded?? I've contacted Tony Levin (drummer at the 68 date)through his Rare Recordings site. Havn't heard back from him yet. Any other HM fans out there know of circulating live or studio material from this period.

PM sent on both DeFranco Lonehills & Roswell Rudd America

Have just purchased the 5CD Ellington Reprise set - the european Warners (non US) reissue of the late 90' Mosaic box They've done a nice job of this, even including the Mark Tucker booklet that came in the original Mosaic set. The CD's come in cardboard mini sleeves (have always liked this - I know a lot of you out there don't) - I use the cellophane mini inner sleeves (can get them from Japan via USA) They protect the discs from being scratched. Also saves a lot of space. Only problem with this set is that booklet is in German (Spiegel Edition stamped on front cover) - wasn't advertised as that!! Does anyone know if an english version exists (was it also pressed for the UK?) - the booklet is held in with an elasticised cord & comes out easily Anyone know who would be best to contact (at Warners), if an english booklet does exist. If looked at both the UK & German Warner sites & they don't even have the set listed. I may have to try Mosaic & see if they have any of the original booklets left

I'm wondering why RRK's first Atlantic session (live), Here Comes The Whistleman has never been included within the Collectables stable of releases. It has been previously released through Atlantic/Warners, Water & the M label. Maybe Joel Dorn was not involved with it? Also, Collectables claim to have released (info that comes with the two box set releases) all of RRK's Atlantic/Warners sessions in the two (5Cd & 7CD) box sets - these appear to be the already issued Collectables releases (including an Ornette Coleman session - twofer release) put into two boxes. Here Comes The Whistleman & Bright Moments are missing. Can anyone comment on the audio quality of these releases - I've read that many/most of the Collectables Atlantic transfers are not up to par.

Postage to Australia will be approx $50 US... That's fine Let's do business

Hey I'm very interested BUT I'm in Australia (hope that doesn't dampen things for you - postage will probably be exy) Have been browsing on Amazon for the past few weeks for this box contact me on stephenplatt@optusnet.com.au if you are interested in shipping to the Antipodes Cheers ps Charles Tolliver is playing here later this month (Brisbane Jazz Festival) - some jazz kudos for the Southern Hemisphere

Have just obtained Art's Soul Finger CD (originals) - there appears to be lineup variation between the liner notes (likely taken from an original sleeve) & some of the discographies I have (Lord, Japanese Jazz Discography). The CD states the recording dates were May 12-13, 1965 & the only saxophonist was Lucky Thompson (playing ss & ts) On the other hand my discographies list Lucky Thompson as playing ss & only on one title, Spot Session (quartet & dated 21 April) whereas Gary Bartz (as) was present (on the other dates in May) Can anyone confirm that Gary Bartz did play on these sessions & Lucky Thompson was only on Spot session - I'm sure I can hear a tenor sax on some of the other titles Cheers & thanks for any advice

Firstly, many thanks for the info received Unfortunately I don't have any workshop number details - record sleeve info is minimal apart from performing musicians All I can give you are LP details 1. NDR Die Jazz-Werkstatt '65 - 629.851 2. NDR Die Jazz-Werkstatt '66 - 629.904 3. NDR Die Jazz-Werkstatt '67 - 599.865 4. NDR Die Jazz-Werkstatt '70 - 654.094 Romualdo

Have just been given 4 NDR Jazz Workshop LP's (1965, 66, 67 & 70) - amazing what turns up here in Australia. All of the above LP's contain a stellar cast - Wes Montgomery, Leo Wright, Carmell Jones, Nathan Davis, Paul Bley, Steve Lacy, Evan Parker, Albert Mangelsdorff, Manfred Schoof etc...... Unfortunately the lineup details are a bit sketchy on the LP covers (no recording dates listed either) The Lord Discography does not list a number of the titles & there is musician variance between this and the record cover details. I'm sure I read recently on this forum that there are more details regarding these sessions (many have not been released in vinyl or CD form). Have gone to the NDR website but cannot find anything archival relating to the jazz workshops. Any feedback would be welcomed Romualdo

I've always thought Haig would make a worthy Mosaic project--especially his later stuff, but some of the earlier material too. I suggested it once. Not that they get many suggestions.... Suggested a Mosaic Select of his 50's material (Esoteric, Period, PJ etc) a couple of years back - If I can recall, Mike C cited licencing issues as a problem. The Andorrans (Fresh Sound etc) have made a partial attempt at this but it's never the same as a Mosaic job. Stephen/Romualdo

See my write up in Names & Numbers, AL HAIG ON PACIFIC JAZZ. Jim What's Names & Numbers - have done a search (google) & nothing significant comes up Am I missing something simple here? Also, has PJ 603 (Babasin/Haig - Saunders, Meanders / How About You) ever been released on CD (or LP)? I think all the other 78's have had a CD release over the past 20 or so years