bertrand

Yes, that's it - 'Double Exposure' has the same intro. That was fast! As you said, the rest of the piece is different. But the same intro confirms that 'A-1' is a Mobley tune. He may have recorded it elsewhere - the race is on to find it! But what I was going on is the identical intros; I don't know for sure if I heard 'A-1' elsewhere. Mobley did re-use pieces under different titles a few times. Some examples: 'Kismet' = 'Straight Ahead' (12 years apart!) 'A Peck A Sec' = 'The Latest' 'East Of Brooklyn' = 'Night Watch' He also wrote a tune called 'Blues Number Two' and recorded a song with the same title with Miles (and credited to Miles), but they are different songs. Why Miles recorded all standards with Mobley rather than play a few of his originals (not all of which are that complex), I'll never know. Bertrand.

Claude, Thanks! I do have this double CD, and I noticed that the piece is not 'Get Happy'. It might be based on the chord changes, however. The last thing I need to figure out is that this might be a song Hank recorded again, probably for Blue Note, under a different title. I am almost finishing putting all of Hank's compositions on my iPod, so this will help me make the determination. I will post the results when I have them - it may be a few months though. I was hoping to make the process quicker if someone on organissimo had the answer! Bonne annee 2006, Bertrand.

Jim, I'm thinking the same as you. I've found more than a few screw-ups at Blue Note, a couple of them in the forthcoming batch of RVGs. I pointed them out to Cuscuna and he assured me they would be fixed. I'm really just stuck on this one point now: what does the song called 'You're My Thrill' that was NOT performed by Bille Holiday sound like? I haven't yet tracked down a version. Bertrand.

I just checked allmusic.com. There are 153 hits for this title. Most are credited to Clare/Gorney, a few to Lane/Washington. I listened to a few Clare/Gorney versions, and a few of the Burton Lane versions. They are ALL the same song, with the melodic phrase alluded to above. So what's the deal? There may be two songs with this title, but all jazz musicians seem to want to play the one Billie Holiday did. Most albums credit it to Clare/Gorney, some to Lane/Washington. Now I will try to track down the musicals (don't know when or how) and see how different those two pieces are. One of them should be Billie's tune, and the other some other tune. I'd also be curious to know if any jazz musician covered the 'other' song, i.e. the one that Billie did not perform. Bertrand.

Triple checking, I still maintain it's the same piece. Land plays it a little bit more lighthearted than the other two, and takes some liberties with the melody. The head is a bit elusive, but there is one phrase that is characteristic of the song: In Pepper's version, we first hear it at the 0:26 mark. In Draper's version, it first appears at the 0:30 mark. In Land's version, it is heard for the first time much later, around the 1:36 mark. Bertrand.

Perhaps I did not make myself clear, so I will try to state it as simply as possible: I listened to the Pepper Adams, the Ray Draper and the Harold Land pieces and I think they are the same composition. Is there anyone here who feels that the tune performed by Land is a different composition? If yes, then my problem is solved and I'm just not hearing the difference, If no, then there's something funny going on. Simple enough, no? Bertrand.

If others can ascertain that the tune performed by Land is not the same as the one performed by Adams and Draper, then I will assume the Burton Lane credit is correct. But they sound the same to me... Bertrand.

'A-1' is a tune from the 11/7/56 Lee Morgan/Hank Mobley Savoy session. It was not issued at the time. Some discographies claim this is really 'Get Happy'. I disagree. The recent Savoy Birth Of Hard Bop 2-fer credits it to Mobley, which I can believe, because the intro sounds like ANOTHER Mobley tune. So is 'A-1' really an alternate title for another Mobley tune? If so, which? It's driving me nuts. Hank has so many compositions, I haven't learned them all yet. If only Aric were here Bertrand.

Thanks to the two Jims for their detective work. Now the debate changes: it seems to me the tune on the Land album is the same as the other, but this seems to indicate that this is not the case. What do you guys think? Bertrand.

P.S. I'll also check the copyright website later, but it's always down on Sunday mornings.

It seems to me that the composition You're My Thrill (from the Billie Holiday repertoire) played, for example, by Pepper Adams (10 to 4 at the Five Spot) and Ray Draper (Tuba Sounds) is the same as the piece played by Harold Land on Take Aim. Yet the first two list Sidney Clare and Jay Gorney as composers, and the Land lists Burton Lane. A song search on allmusic.com (FWIW) lists Clare and Gorney as composers for all but a few of the 500+ versions out there. What's the story? Who wrote this? Thanks, Bertrand.

I would like to know how the quality is on two DVDs out there: Horace Silver Quintet (with Tom Harrell etc.) and Paris Reunion Band (Joe Henderson/Woody Shaw etc.). How is the picture quality on these? I'm also curious about the quality of the performance on the Paris Reunion Band. None of their CDs are very highly regarded (see the Woody Shaw discography), but on the other hand, how much footage is there out there of Joe and Woody? Thanks, Bertrand.

Thanks for the input. I will still eventually get 'em both. Any idea on whether the Collectables is a vinyl remaster? Thanks, Bertrand.

The composition called 'Blue Black' on the Nefertiti album (1/25/76) is the same as 'One For' on the Blue Black album (2/26/75). The song called 'Blue Black' on the album of the same name is a different piece. I would go with the titles from the earlier session, except that it's possible that the titles were flipped on that record. There is a song called' Blue Black' on the Piano Jazz Show (2/24/05) so this may clear things up. This is not discussed in the Hill discography at jazzdiscography.com compiled by our fellow board members Ronald Lyles and Mike Fitzgerald. I will also e-mail them to see if they have an answer. I may also ask Andrew next time I get a chance to talk to him. Bertrand.

Did the soundtrack to Spike Lee's 'joint' (as he calls 'em) She's Gotta Have It ever come out on CD? All tunes are by Bill Lee (although one is a rip-off of Wayne Shorter's 'Marie Antoinette'), and the personnel is Harold Vick (one of his last dates), Virgil Jones, Stanley Cowell, Bill Lee, and Joe Chambers, with Cedar Walton on one track. I have this on a cassette I bought, but this would be a nice addition to the Joe Chambers playlist on my iPod (he does some nice percussion work on this). If it's not on CD, I'll have to convert the tape to CD (assuming I can dig up the tape!). Thanks, Bertrand.

How are the following Mingus CDs, all of which have Joe Chambers on them? 1) Mingus And Friends In Concert The size of the orchestra has always made me wary, as well as the Cosby intros. Is there still some good music on this? How prominent is Joe Chambers? I believe he's the only drummer on this one. 2) Me Myself An Eye/Something Like A Bird I'll probably get this one anyway, since it's a cheap 2-CD set. But is this remastered from vinyl or from tape? I usually don't buy Collectable stuff. Here, Joe is one of several drummer/precussionists. Can you hear him at all? I think I could recognize his playing after all these years. Don't get me wrong, I love Mingus, but I'm not a Mingus completist. Thanks, Bertrand.

I would have attended pretty much every night, and gone broke or been stabbed, whichever came first. Bertrand.

I hope they solve the legal flecos. This being said, how good can this performance be if Coltrane and Dolphy are only touching their instruments. I want them to actually blow. Bertrand.

I assume that since there are no complaints, this is not copy-protected. Ray, get well soon! Bertrand.

Has the Arthur Blythe gig with Dewey Redman and Dr. Lonnie Smith been released yet? I read a blurb about it, and it said this gig was definitely going to be recorded and issued. The gig was earlier this year. Dewey Redman and organ is a very rare combo indeed. It also would be Dewey's first recording in a long time. Bertrand.

P.S. I haven't listened to Stevie Wonder in a long time, but isn't that piece actually entitled 'As'? Bertrand.

Ken, Thanks for posting the set list for the Andrew Hill show. I do hope this makes it to CD. A quick discographical question: There is some confusion between the song titles 'Blue Black' and 'One For', both on the recently reissued Blue Black album on East Wind. So my question: Did Andrew announce on the show that he was about to play or had just played 'Blue Black', or was this title from some other source? Is the song that he played the same as 'Blue Black' on the Blue Black LP, or is it the same as 'One For' on the same LP? Thanks, Bertrand.

Claude, A very merry christmas and a happy new year to you as well! Bertrand.

I hated Madame Bovary. Had to study it in high school; what a nightmare. Bertrand.

She kicked Peter Brotzmann out half-way through his interview. There was a half-hour of dead air on NPR that day. It was in all the papers. I'm surprised you didn't hear about it. Bertrand.