bertrand

I'm not confusing the two. I'm 99% sure some of the tracks in the Hill Mosaic were listed as 'rejected' in the 2nd edition of the discography. Also, there were changes from edition 1 to edition 2: the alternates from Buhaina's Delight went from rejected to issued; the Wayne Shorter 10/70 session went from unissued to rejected. Bertrand.

Ok, here's the link, since I apparently was the first to see this: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051111/ap_on_...copy_protection Does the CEO look like a mobster or what? Bertrand.

Oh, and if and when this does come out, it will most likely NOT be copy-protected, judging from a news item I saw on yahoo which I am too lazy to post a link to. Bertrand.

What are you guys bitching about? It's just taking longer than expected for Vincent Wilburn to wipe out DeJohnette's drum track and record himself over it, that's all. No big deal. Patience is a virtue. Bertrand.

He can certainly sue the karaoke machine makers. As far as I'm concerned, suing them is too mild - they should be shot. However, he remains a creep in my book. Bertrand.

Did he ever finish paying up all those lawsuits from the women he filmed taking a crap in the bathroom of the restaurant he owned? This was some 10 years ago. Bertrand.

I'm an idiot. Please explain how Clem's post relates to the Cellar Door discussion. No law says it has to, of course, but I don't even see a tangential relationship. Bertrand.

Jim, Since you seem to have heard it (the 3/19/61 KD session with Grant Green), could you confirm the following: is 'Blue Ching' the same composition as 'Blue Ching' recorded by the Messengers on 2/12/61. Based on the dates, I would think so. I first heard this track on a Pisces vinyl, with the composer unknown. It sounded like a Timmons piece to me (especially the piano intro). Then, later, I saw it credited to KD and I was puzzled, until I saw that a piece with the same title was on the 3/19 session. I assumed that Cuscuna decided it must be a KD composition because of this. Don Sickler may have been involved in the determination as well, since he publishes KD's music and recorded another tune from the 3/19 session ('Blues Lament', IIRC) on his KD tribute album. Bertrand.

Expect: 1) A serious scolding from our board admin. 2) A flood of PMs I am sure this session is quite good. I think this for this one the claim was that someone was off-mike; is this the case? This is among a half-dozen Blue Note sessions that have been branded once and for all 'disasters' - the description seems to stick no matter what. But elsewhere on this forum, there have been discussions of other unissued/rejected sessions that somehow 'slipped out', and apparently, they are not nearly as bad as you would think. Then you have the 9/13/68 Lee Morgan session. For years, the buzzword was that it should be burned. Then, three tracks show up on The Sixth Sense and they hardly proved to be lighter-fluid worthy. Add in the many excellent tracks on the Andrew Hill Mosaic select that were initially rejected in the BN discographies ('Monkash' and 'Mahoganny', for example, which are fabulous IMHO) and you have a recipe for complete puzzlement, at least on my part. The rejected/unissued Blue Note sessions situation remains a total mystery to me. I'll spare Chuck Nessa a posting and add the disclaimer that of course, I don't know what I'm talking about, having never worked inside the music biz. Bertrand.

Quoting Rooster: 'We should probably limit this to tunes recorded without the composer on the date --- or there'd be hundreds and hundreds of these to mention (so why bother)'. So the Kicker meets the specs, Breaking Point doesn't. Bertrand.

Anyone know anything about him, other than he's Don's son? Anyone heard him live? He's in D.C. on Thursday. Bertrand.

The jury's still out on what Concord will do with Fantasy. Has anything been pulled from the catalog yet? I don't think so. Remember the Fantasy appreciation thread I started? They were going to have a big meeting in October. I'll try to find out more. Bertrand.

I think Milton Nascimento was still not very well-known when Wayne Shorter recorded his 'Vera Cruz' in 1970. And, of course, Joe Chambers was totally unknown when Bobby Hutcherson recorded 'Mirrors' on the album finally issued in 1999 as The Kicker. Bertrand.

Michael, Didn't know that you recorded 'Walter Davis Ascending'. Jackie played it at Lincoln Center in 1990 and it was on the radio broadcast, but he never recorded it on an album. How did you get a hold of this piece? Also, his tune 'Fort Apache' has only been recorded by the Fort Apache Band. But I think Jackie falls beyond the scope of this thread. Bertrand.

Sony is practically BEGGING people to bootleg this set! Vincent Wilburn is an idiot, and a crummy drummer. Bertrand.

Questions: 1. Will the EP be included as well? 2. What is the source for the remastering? Recall that the tapes were destroyed by Capitol, so the Fred Cohen reissue was from LP (so the EP must have already been issued before). Did they find a tape source, or will this CD be remastered from vinyl? 3. Will this really come out??? Bertrand.

Carter died a tragic death on tour in Austria in the early 90s. His health problems were brought on by alcohol abuse. Previously, he had been badly beaten up by a mugger. There was a benefit at the Austrian Embassy to bring his body home to D.C. - the Austrian govermnent wouldn't release it until his hospital bills were paid. Wynton M. was involved. I saw him a few times in D.C. Just a few months before he died, he co-led a quintet at the One Step Down with Jack Walrath. They did a live recording session. I wish I knew where the tapes went. It was a great gig. Bertrand.

I will never put a copy-protected CD into my PC. However, will I always know if they are? Is it legally required for them to indicate this? Bertrand.

It's just that if I'm going to NYC, it might as well be when there's a great show happening. That week-end looks just so-so, but I'm waiting fo the Jazz Standard. I might go up to Vermont instead, if I can figure out how to do it without a car. Bertrand.

I was thinking of going up to NYC on the week-end of 12/9, but I checked the major clubs and there doesn't seem to be really anything worthwhile going on. Any other leads Thanks, Bertrand.

Refresh my memory - which were in July and which were in August? Thanks, Bertrand.

The Redman is excellent. Is the Tolliver disc a tribute to Maz Roach? Bertrand.

Amazing, Mike, that was EXACTLY what I was about to post! I know his mother (Miles's sister) was in charge ten years ago, but she must be too sick or even dead by now. I was told that at one of the Miles conferences in St. Louis, she looked up and down at a woman's Miles T-shirt and asked her if it was 'authorized'. Looks like the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree. Bertrand.

Bon anniversaire, Guy! Bertrand.

Why don't you just wait for Verve to put them out Bertrand.