bertrand

I saw the first Star Wars when it came out in 1977. I hated every second of it. Bertrand.

The only info anyone has ever produced on the fate of Helen More were vague statements like 'she only served a few months' and 'she died a few years ago' (I heard this about 5-6 years ago). There are a number of Morgan bios in the works, but I don't think any are near completion. The info about More's death comes from a man in North Carolina named Willam Pitt, who is one of the potential biographers. I haven't heard from him in a long time, and I don't know where he got the information from concerning her possible death (she'd be 80 now, if she was 47 in 1972). Perhaps the social security death index might help, but I don't know how to search this. Jeff McMillan did his thesis at Rutgers on Lee; it is probably available at IJS. He found a lot on Lee's Philadelphia days, but almost nothing on the last part of his career. He did not explore the 'what happened to Helen' angle at all. He expanded on the Philly days in a later article for which I do not have the reference handy. Bennie Maupin's notes to the Lighthouse set seem to indicate that he and other musicians were close to her; perhaps they (discretely) stayed in touch? I saw a picture of Helen at the home of Lee's late brother Jimmy; she was very creepy-looking. Bertrand.

The first post in this thread does not mention bonus tracks for Drum Suite, so the discussion above is kind of moot... ... except, I just remembered there are a couple of other orphan tracks on Columbia: the 6/25/56 session with Ira Sullivan (2 tracks). So here is the correct way the entire Messengers Columbia stuff should be reissued: 1) The Jazz Messengers album (with Byrd and Mobley) which has a few bonus cuts and alternates. This was done properly in the late 90s. 2) Drum Suite + Gershwin Medley 3) Hard Bop + 2 tracks with Ira Sullivan ('L'il T' and 'The New Message'). Instead, we will get Drum Suite, probably with no bonus tracks. The problem can still be solved if Hard Bop is later reissued with three bonus tracks, the medley and the tracks with Ira Sullivan. Since my Japanese Hard Bop has no bonus tracks, I would buy this version if it were to materialize. Anyone have an in at Sony? Bertrand.

Lon beat me to it. I'm sure there will only be ONE bonus cut on Stepping Stones - 'Escape Velocity', which was on Woody III and not in the Mosaic box. This means that the odds of Woody III coming out intact are slimmer now. Drum Suite is a mystery. One side was a half-session of percussion-related stuff. The other half was extra tracks from the sessions for the Hard Bop album. If they put Drum Suite out, the whole Hard Bop album (plus a Gershwin Medley that was on the potpouttri album Originally) would be candidates for bonus tracks. Let's check my iTunes library real quick... The Hard Bop album (5 tracks) + the quintet half of Drum Suite (3 tracks) + the Gershwin Medley = 65+ minutes. I'm sure the percussion half is more than 15 minutes (I'll check downstairs later), so it won't work. I have a French pressing of Drum Suite and a Japanese of Hard Bop, so I'm only missing a CD version of the Medley. There's no real solution to this: if you put the entire Hard Bop session (9 tracks) on one CD, the three Drum Suite percussion tracks are orphaned. But if you want to put Drum Suite out as it first appeared with bonus tracks, you have to leave out one or two tunes. Two CDs are needed: Drum Suite as it appeared with no bonus cuts, and Hard Bop as it first appeared with only the Gershwin Medley as a bonus. The reissue list does not mention the Hard Bop LP... Bertrand. P.S. The listing at ejazzlines shows that the first side of Drum Suite is 18 minutes. So the total would be about 83 minutes.

Off the top of my head: Stanley Turrentine - Another Story is part of the Mosaic box Bobbi Humphrey - Flute In was out on Applause only Stanley Turrentine - The Look Of Love Applause as well Bobby Hutcherson - Natural Illusions ditto Bertrand.

Paul Combs' bio of Tadd Dameron should be great. Paul has left no stone unturned in documenting Tadd's life. Should be a great book, and it will be out in the near future. Bertrand.

It seems there is some confusion. I will try to clear it up: Keiko Jones (from Japan) is the widow of the late Elvin Jones. Kiko Morgan (a Japanese-American woman raised in Chicago) was Lee Morgan's first wife, and since they were never divorced, she inherited the rights to his music. I last spoke to her in December 1999; I assume she is still around. His partner Helen More is the woman who shot him. Wayne Shorter's first wife, who was the Japanese-American woman on the cover of Speak No Evil, was named Teruka (she used the English name Irene). She later married Billy Dee Williams and is still living, to the best of my knowldedge. Wayne's second wife was the late Ana Maria Shorter (she died in the TWA crash 7/17/96). His current wife is Carolina Dos Santos Shorter. No one named Keiko or Kiko was ever married to Wayne. Bertrand.

The complete Booker Ervin and Woody Shaw Blue Note sessions. Bertrand.

Is it too late for an organissimo poll to change the title of the Booker Ervin? I really dislike it. Hell, even Back From The Gig would be better! Bertrand.

Isn't there also video footage of the maintenance shop stuff? Here's hoping for a DVD... What's the personnel on that gig? Thanks, Bertrand.

Any new information on this? Bertrand.

My father just moved to Austin. If I ever come out to visit, it sounds like there's some good gigs goin' on. How I will find out about them is another story Jim, how far from Austin is the place where Quartet Out plays? Bertrand.

That's a pretty wimpy looking sammich. Bertrand.

Is this bass clarinet also harder to play? Man, I love that thing, especially on Bitches' Brew. Bertrand.

P.S. Let's rename this thread: 'What famous musicians played at your high school?'. Bertrand.

My former high school has been hosting Andrew White of late - his wife teaches there! Bertrand.

For those not aware, there is a discussion of the whole dualdisc format in the audio forum. Mike, Out of curiosity, which Springsteen record was the turning point for you? I feel kind of the same way about him, but since you mention post-70s, this really doesn't leave many good records to choose from! There were four in the seventies, all of which had some great moments (although I feel only the second was completely successful). When did The River come out? That's the last one I have any use for, as you put it. Some of it was filler, but the good parts were some of his best work. Do you put The River in the ones you like, or the ones you don't? I assume everything after that is downhill for you, as it is for me. Bertrand.

That sums up my feelings in a nutshell! I will add this comment, before someone else intervenes. Yes I was ragging on the factual errors in the Wayne Shorter bio, but the difference is there, I feel that the book did not have enough meat in it to compensate for the sloppiness. Rosenthal's book is more modest in its intentions, and succeeds (I think) in fulfilling its intentions, warts and all. Mercer's book is a lot more ambitious: it's the first book-length biographical essay on Wayne Shorter (in my opinion one of the most important artists the U.S. has ever had), yet it falls way short of creating a cohesive picture of the man and his art. Of course, she picked a particularly difficult subject (I'm still amazed Wayne consented to this thing at all), and of course I learned a few things I did not know (especially about the extent of all the tragedies he has endured), but in the end, it was her choice to tackle this very difficult subject. Add some silly typos and factual errors and you have the recipe for a major disappointment. In the case of Rosenthal's book, the errors just don't seem to jar me as much, probably because the content is far more rewarding. Why do I bring this up? I don't hve anything against Ms. Mercer personally, I just don't want anyone to come in and say: 'How come you don't mind the mistakes in Hard Bop but you mind the ones in Footprints'. I hope I have answered this hypothetical question to everyone's satisfaction! Bertrand.

Two dumb questions: 1. Does the DVD side only play in a DVD player, or can the audio part of the DVD play in a CD player? 2. Is an import really the only way to get it as separate discs, or are they planning on issuing it later in a normal format? Perhaps I should return it, wait until they come to their senses, and get it for her at a later date. Look what happened with the Miles boxes: after being available in a fucked-up package for a while, they were issued in much more accessible packaging. Glad to see that no one dislikes the album. Is 'Reno' really about anal sex? Bertrand.

Just the Tyrone Washington trainwreck.

Rosenthal's book is much better than the two you bought, hardbopjazz. Bertrand.

RDK, Did you try it in a car CD player? That's probably where she'll use it the most. Thanks, Bertrand.

Up for constructive input. Bertrand.

Why are the following labels on the list: CEMA EMI Jazz Epic Franklin Mint High Note Laserlight Mobile Fidelity Storyville Xanadu Bertrand.

Hmmm... So why did they issue it on a single CD here??? Bertrand.