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Going back to Pete Laroca: Turkish Women At The Bath was reissued by Muse as a Chick Corea album called Bliss. LaRoca sued and won. Bertrand.

Great news! One of my best memories is catching an early set of Cecil Payne at Smalls (with Richard Wyands, John Ore and Joe Farnsworth) celebrating Cecil's 73rd birthday, then walking 'round the corner to the Vanguard for two sets of the Jackie McLean sextet. That's New York. I also met Tommy Turrnetine there once - we chatted at length. Bertrand.

I agree with Mike to disagree about 'Groon'. It's a fantastic piece. I have it on a 2-LP compilation I bought years ago, principally for the amazing booklet. It is essentially a chronology of KC up to the time of the compilation's release (late seventies), chock full of pictures and hilarious press clippings and anecdotes (John Wetton was once referred to in a review as Rick Laird). I hope I still have it - it's probably at my mother's place in Paris. Thanks for the reminder, I'll bring it home on my next trip. Bertrand.

This seems like the right thread to conjure up the name Harry Chapin. This may get me banned from Organissimo for life, of course. Chapin had a song about lonely fishermen's wived in Gloucester Mass who, in the dead of winter, would 'cuddle up' to their big hairy dogs. 'Cuddle up' is a euphemism here, but you get my drift. Bertrand. P.S. It's spelled 'Gloucester', but it's pronounced 'throat-warbler mangrove'.

I got an e-mail from Brooks himself, I believe. I don't know how I got on his mailing list, I've never even met him! Maybe through Don Braden, who I do know? Bertrand.

I knew Margaret Davis was his manager - I did not know that it extended to 'companion'! Bertrand.

Holy crap, Marshall Allen is 80! He should be at home in his slippers, sipping a hot toddy. Looking forward to the Baltimore gig. Got my tickets. Bertrand.

I will be at the Baltimore gig. Bertrand.

Which record was first made available to the general public? Bertrand.

15 pages and no one (myself included) has asked the obvious question yet: will the title track also be renamed? Basra is a damn good record - I'll have to load into into my iPod this week-end. On the subject of LaRoca Sims being a lawyer, here's a funny story. A few years ago, Jazzbeat (or Downtimes) had a story on Joe Chambers. Somehow, in the story, they got him mixed up with LaRoca and claimed Joe was also an attorney! Joe fired off an angry letter saying that he was not a lawyer, had never been a lawyer and never intended to become one. You could tell that he truly felt insulted! Bertrand.

Looking at the Andrew Hill discography by our friend relyles hosted on Mike Fitzgerald's jazz discography site, I see that at least one TV broadcast is listed. I hope this becomes more and more of a practice. Of course, since right now I'm working on a Wayne Shorter discography, I just gave myself a hell of a lot more work to do! Plus with him, there's a bunch of European and Japanese TV broadcasts which I know nothing about, and I am not sure about how to get this information. Maybe I need to rethink this idea Bertrand.

I was thinking about the new Ray Charles DVD in Brazil which has foootage of Tina Brooks. To the best of my knowledge, the music has not been released separately on an audio-only CD. Yet, in a way, this is a performance that belongs in the Brooks discography - it's definitely an important piece of the puzzle, because it's his only 'wide-audience' exposure (The Sermon is a distant second) and it's also his last-known recorded performance. Should it become a common practice to include these types of DVD-only performances in discographies? Is anyone already doing this (and pardon my ignornace if they are)? If one of the purposes of discographies is to make fans of a certain musician aware of every known performance captured in some medium, then I would think this would be a good idea. I would have never known about the Ray Charles DVD if it was not for this board. Still need to get a copy, BTW. I'm just swimming in backlog. Bertrand.

I must be a total fucking idiot, but I don't see what's controversial about the name of this album. Bertrand.

There is a Charlie Hampton who plays piano around D.C. I think I've only seen him once, but I see his name listed a lot. He was an elderly gentleman. I have met Fred Williams a couple of times. He is indeed D.C.-based. Although he has been around for a while (in his late sixties, perhaps?), I have only recently been aware of him. He told me he played in '68 or '69 at Bohemian Caverns with Woody Shaw, Buck Hill and Eric Gravatt. He is also on a recent locally-produced CD by vocalist George V. Johnson. I suspect it is later than 1990. Whether he is the same Fred Williams as the one listed in the Lord, I can't say. Not familiar with the others. Bertrand.

While they're at it, they should reissue it as a Chick Corea session. Oh wait, wrong Pete LaRoca album. Never mind... Bertrand.

Three Blind Mice (UA/Blue Note) and Ugetsu (Riverside). Both have Wayne. Bertrand.

Certainly not, but very frustrating. I thought I was done with the Time label! Since I doubt I will ever buy an SACD player in my life, I guess I will never hear this track. Going back to the discographical aspect of this, what is the procedure for finding out the recording date for 'Sign Off'? This seems to have never been listed in any previous discography, so it's not like there's a previous source to cite (or contradict). I guess we could try to identify the bass player - Warren and Garrison are definitely not players who sound anything alike, but I am not as familiar with Garrison's approach on the more 'mainstream' material. Do these Japanese reissues give any dates? Bertrand.

Christ, I'm still missing an alternate of 'Minor Meeting'. Bertrand.

As Seinfeld said: 'I'm lactose intolerant - I have no patience for the stuff'. Bertrand.

Christo Redentor?

What is Maureen Sickler's role on the recordings on which she is assistant sound engineer? Bertrand.

Joe Chambers also was supposed to do a session. Alfred Lion approached, him but Joe was too 'spaced out' to follow through (this from an interview with Modern Drummer around the time Mirrors came out). I think this non-existant session should include Wayne Shorter, Jackie McLean and Bobby Hutcherson. Bertrand.

Sorry I was vague about the nature of these tracks. I remembered (without doing a search) that there was a thread about this a while back (possibly on the old board), so I assumed that everyone was at least as aware of this as I was. Essentially, there were Japanese reissues of the Time series a few years ago, and some of the recordings had bonus tracks. Since they were Japanese limited edition reissues, you had to hustle to get them, and also taking into account the cost, I just decided not to even try to upgrade my Bainbridge CDs. I was very surprised to see that iTunes had any Japanese reissues. I jumped on these ASAP, under the assumption that they might disappear fast. Someone else can no doubt provide all the details (and perhaps links) concerning the discussions about these reissues (which may not be the ones listed on the Fresh Sound site, since these have no bonus tracks as Mike pointed out), but here are the tracks I downloaded. All but one are listed as 'Alternate Versions'. I assumed these were alternate takes. If you go by the convention most labels seem to be using, it's usually an alternate take if it's recorded the same day, and an alternate version if it was recorded on another day. I did not do a detailed discographical search on these takes yet to get the recording date (I am especially curious to know if it is Butch Warren or Jimmy Garrison on the one Dorham piece that is NOT an alternate, because I need to know if it belongs in my Butch Warren playlist!). The flawed jazzdisco.org does not list these. Kenny Dorham- Jazz Contemporary Sign Off 5:29 A Waltz (alternate version) 5:36 Monk's Mood (alternate version) 2:53 This Love Of Mine (alternate version) 7:55 Sonny Clark Trio Nica (alternate version) 6:55 Blues Blue (alternate version) 7:38 Junka (alternate version) 5:02 Sonia (alternate version) 7:21 Award-Winning Drummer Milano (alternate version) 6:33 Old Folks (alternate version) 4:31 Gandolfo's Bounce (alternate version) 6:12 'Sign Off' is the most welcome addition here, since it is a previously unreleased KD composition. I knew this tune existed years ago, since it was copyrighted at the same time as 'Horn Salute', 'Tonica' and 'A Waltz'. I assumed it was an out-take from the session, but I didn't know (until the bonus tracks surfaced) that it actually had been recorded, as opposed to just rehearsed for the session and then discarded. Bertrand. P.S. These are the timings off of my iPod, which I have here. I will check to see if the iTunes timings are off by a couple of seconds.

I just purchased bonus tracks on iTunes for the Time albums Jazz Contemporary, Sonny Clark Trio, and Award-Winning Drummer. I had the original versions of these CDs without the bonus cuts. Are there any other Time albums that might have bonus tracks? Showboat, Bennie Green, Booker Little and Tommy Turrentine do not. Thanks, Bertrand.

However, on 3/12 (the 50th anniversary of Charlie Parker's murder by Art Blakey), Roy will bring a quintet including Christian McBride and Kenny Garrett to the Kennedy Center in D.C. to celebrate Bird. I need to remember to get a ticket. Anyone else from D.C. going? Bertrand.