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I wish there was video of the 1961 Newport Festival. Bertrand.

My mother was able to find a copy of the Alan Shorter album at the Virgin store on the Champs Elysees - it was even on sale! The sound is pretty raw on this. Gary Windo goes apeshit (as advertised by Brandon elsewhere), but I was disappointed in how little Shorter himself plays on this. The first track takes up the bulk of the CD, and he only solos for about 4 minutes. I'm glad I have it, but Orgasm is a far better record. Bertrand.

Just to make your life more difficult, the ones that are not bolded are also essential. Bertrand.

What does Dewey have to say? Bertrand.

I wasn't there, but I'm pretty sure that Lee was not shot 'onstage', but during a break. The late Leslie Gourse covers the shooting in her Blakey book, in a rather interesting interview with the reclusive Jymie Merritt. Next time I come across a copy, I'll read the passage again. I'm not sure what is meant by an unofficial after-hours hang-out. The Slugs flyer for February 1972 shows that Keith Jarrett played there the week before Lee's week-long engagement (which was supposed to end on 2/20/72), so the place was formally operating as a jazz club. According to the New Grove Dictionary of Jazz p. 902 (I believe it's the second edition), 'The club closed shortly after Lee Morgan was murdered there in 1972'. Haven't picked up my copy yet, but I'm curious about two things: 1. Was Grachan Moncur III interviewed? 2. Is Jackie McLean mentioned at all? A thing that has nagged me for years is why, despite the fact that Wayne and Jackie hung with the same crowd and used many of the same sidemen (or were sidemen for the same artists), Alfred Lion never thought to put them together. Bertrand.

In response to Mike's question from a few posts back: The passage about Lee and Wayne's Japanese-American wives sure is confusing - as Mike pointed out, Mercer seems to imply that Wayne's decision to marry Irene (Teruka) was after the Japanese tour. However, I know more about this: Lee's late brother Jimmy, who I was friends with in the early nineties until his passing in November 1999, told me that the story going around was that Lee and Wayne had met their wives in Japan and that they were Japanese. Jimmy said that this was incorrect; both were Japanese-American and Lee and Wayne had met them in the states. So, as Mike surmises, this meeting must have taken place *before* the Japanese tour. This error may come from an essay called 'The Sidewinder' in one of Al Fraser's books. He says something like: 'Lee and Wayne went to Japan with Art Blakey and fell in love with two Japanese women'. I also have spoken to Kiko Morgan (Lee's wife) a few times, although it has been several years. I'm pretty sure she told me that she introduced Wayne and Irene (who was a friend of hers). Herbie Hancock also told me two years ago that he knew Kiko in Chicago, way before Lee did. So what we don't really know is how Lee met Kiko, although perhaps it was in Chicago around the recording of Expoobident (10/13/60). I wonder if Jeff McMillan covers this in his Rutgers thesis; he interviewed Jimmy Morgan extensively. Bertrand.

For what it's worth, the often incorrect jazzdisco.org site does not mention Pastorius playing on 'Footprints'. I don't have this record, so I can't confirm this. I was going to be near a Borders' today and I was thinking about picking this up, but now I just don't know. My worst suspicions have been confirmed. How on earth can you write a bio on Wayne and give such short shrift to the Blue Note albums; that's utterly absurd. No discography or even a list of albums? No list of compositions, even though she had one I sent her she could have just pasted in? Even Leslie Gourse had one in her Monk book, for Christ's sake. When I spoke to her on the phone, I VOLUNTEERED (note the word) to do the discography - she told me it was already taken care of. Did the publisher take it out for lack of space? Mike is right in lamenting the absence of any mention of Freddie Hubbard's 1963 date The Body and the Soul. This record was very important to Wayne since it was his first stab at writing for large ensembles (he claims in a 2002 interview for Jazzman that Golden Boy preceded it, but I don't think that's right). And here's another take on this Hubbard album: one of the musicians told me that, in his opinion, Wayne had no idea what he was doing at this session. I would have sure liked to hear him elaborate on this viewpoint. As for the mistakes, of course it's a big problem. Why? Because journalists and half-baked scholars for years to come are now going to repeat these errors as if they were gospel, because they will be quoting this book (which they will probably call the 'definitive' Wayne Shorter bio). It's just like the errors in the Lord; Mercer's mistakes will be repeated as fact because no one will go back and check. I wonder if this book will turn out to be as bad as Santoro's Mingus book, which is currently my benchmark for 'bad jazz book' (with the Miles autobiography close behind). Bertrand.

Mike, I had mentioned your chronology to her and suggested she contact you - I'm sure she never did. She may have already known about it, I can't recall the conversation right now. Does this book have a composition inventory in it? How much time is spent discussing Alan Shorter? I am finding out more and more about just how much he was an influence on his younger brother. Based on the Golson and Merritt errors alone, I am starting to get very nervous about this thing. Wayne supposedly was deeply involved - wouldn't he have caught these things? Bertrand.

My wife and son got me the Straight No Chaser DVD. I just love the sequences in the recording studio when they're filming Underground. Monk performs several takes of 'Ugly Beauty', but that bozo Teo Macero doesn't tape them, much to Monk's exasperation. Bertrand.

Lon, Thanks for the recommendation - the reviews in DC were pretty negative, but the only DC film critic I really trust died last year. My wife and I are hitting a movie tomorrow night - I'll propose this one. Any movie that makes fun of Jacques Cousteau is alright with me - he always annoyed me. Bertrand.

I remember from the Mosaic booklet that Tina was with Ray Charles for a while, but I thought it was much earlier, and certainly not in Brazil in 1963. I had NO idea there was any footage of Tina Brooks out there. I'm not a huge Ray Charles fan, but I will HAVE to get this. Holy crap. Bertrand.

Mike, Do you need information for Freddie Redd's Lonely City? If so, I'll post it tomorrow. Bertrand.

If Wynton had a tenth of Woody's genius, I'd find him actually bearable. Bertrand.

Yes, it's time Wayne Shorter, Jackie McLean, Dewey Redman, Benny Golson, Dr. Lonnie Smith, Freddie Hubbard and the others stop snickering at our contributions and kick in some useful tidbits, damn it. Bertrand.

I ordered Triple Exposure a few days ago (in light of the possibility of it becoming extinct). Based on the 3 tracks that are on the Bird Feathers compilation, I can't wait to hear this. Bertrand.

So who's going to e-mail Selvin to tell him who the unidentified man in the Miles photo is?

Does anyone know the composer credits for Buddy Terry's Natural Soul (with Larry Young and Woody Shaw)? The tracks are: Natural Woman Natural Soul (Sunday Go To Meetin' Blues) Pedro, The One Arm Bandit Don't Be So Mean The Revealing Time Quiet Days And Lonely Nights Thanks in advance, Bertrand.

Soul Connection is a Big John Patton album. Bertrand.

Is this the Horse from 'Orse At Safari'? Bertrand.

Thanks Claude. I will listen closely, because sometimes jazzzdisco.org has errors on who plays on which tracks. I do remember that a large chunk of the early tunes were duos/trios. Bertrand.

Thanks! I knew AMG was wrong. Bertrand.

Someone burned this for me, but I have no track lisitng. Composer credits would also be appreciated. I know the first track is mistitled. Do the liners specify which tracks Jackie McLean is on? Thanks, Bertrand.

Someone burned this for me, but I don't have the track listing. Larry Young is on organ (under a pseudonym). The listing at all music guide seems out of order. Can anyone help me with the correct listing? Composer credits and timings would also be appreciated. Thanks, Bertrand.

Gdogus, Thank you for summarizing the problem far more eloquently than I was able to! I will still contact itunes first, but I suspect the problem is at Verve's end. If I really believe they will fix it, then I am also ready to buy that provebial bridge in Brooklyn. Like others have said, my time is too precious to spend any time messing with this. I reported the problem here, and already some who were considering buying these CDs from Verve have decided against it. I cost Verve a few customers - my job here is done! Bertrand. Edit: Now I don't know - with impossible's post, there may be a way out. I may not have burned the right way (I clicked on an icon). However, I do not want the 0 as a default - just something temporary. Also, I was not able to eliminate the space before uploading to the iPod. The only time I can do that is when importing one of my CDs, but I have to do it during the import, not during the export to the iPod. I still think Verve messed up, because there's a second of track 1 at the beginning of track 2. However, if I can find a way to join those two, I would be content (albeit still pissed off at Verve). Any ideas?

Brad, Dr. J, Exactly my point. Sure, I could spend a couple of hours fucking around figuring out how to correct this problem using the method aftab describes. But I spent $10 bucks on this CD, so I expect Verve to take care of these problems. Clearly, they just tossed the downloads on there without any thought to quality control. I've no problem buying individual tracks, but if this is what downloaded CDs are like, I'm not getting any more. I will send a complaint to itunes and see what they think. Bertrand.