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B3-er, expect a 'friendly' e-mail from Gary Larson anytime soon. Sorry I got you in this. I forgot about Berigan. Alternatively, you could just delete his post. Bertrand.

Claude, Let us know if you have time to get together during your short trip to Washington. Bertrand.

I'm only half-kidding, by the way. Try posting a Far Side cartoon on the web and see what happens. Bertrand.

I hope you don't get into any copyright disputes with Franquin or his estate(?) Welcome aboard. Bertrand.

A minor point, but I think the 6/10/00 concert with McLean, Hutcherson and Higgins was a joint concert with no leader. I remember this concert was listed as Departures and Destinations, and a number of us from board Krypton met up over there (as did Tom Evered - Michael Cuscuna was attending a graduation). We naively thought they would play pieces from Destination Out and Point of Departure! There was even talk of trying to enlist Grachan Moncur III. I remember meeting Kevin Bresnahan, Dmitry, and someone who went by Miles Davis on the old board. Two board Krypton members were there who are not members here: Rob (Vitti or Zitti?) and the legendary hardbop, who quietly slipped into the night without a word. Bertrand.

Wow! I can't believe the family was finally located. And we have an actual date of death. Lady Byron mentioned in the article was a D.C. legend who just passed away two weeks ago. I never even saw her play Bertrand.

Big John Patton's Let 'Em Roll (with Green, Hutch and Otis Finch) is the other 'classic' with this instrumental combination that leaps to mind. I suspect Joe Locke must have done something along those lines - I know how he did a gig at Blues Alley with Larry Goldings that I stupidly skipped, and we discussed later how rare that combination is. Bertrand.

I am a Mathematical Statistician for the Gov'mint. Which means that, in a perverted way, Dubya is my boss Brownie, congratulations on your retirement! I knew that it was coming up. I hope you have more free time now to enjoy music and other pursuits. I hope we can find time to hang out on my next trip to Paris (June perhaps), or perhaps you will make a (non-business) trip to the US. Bertrand.

They're not allowed if they're going to be too aloud. Bertrand.

It looks like the set will sell out with Organissimo pre-orders alone! I will use my usual approach. Wait until the release date, monitor Organissimo for a couple of weeks to see if there are any manufacturing snafus, and then order the thing. If it's already sold out, that will be a Mosaic record. Bertrand.

Byrd's I'm Trying To Get Home sounded very weak to me when I heard it once. I like New Perspective a lot, however. Bertrand.

And only $6 for Southern Bitch!!! Bertrand.

What did Miles say to Cage? Bertrand.

Alfie is my favorite Rollins album. Oliver Nelson could be hit or miss, but on this one he hit the bull's eye. His arrangements just sing. Despite the overwhelming presence of Sonny himself, Phil Woods (in the ensembles), Kenny Burrell and Roger Kellaway especially really make themselves noticed as well. I doubt there are other compositions, but perhaps some alternates may surface one day. We can hope... Bertrand.

That's the one. You may refer to the two-fer itself by the name Back From The Gig, because that's what it was called. The crime is to refer to the unissued session itself (i.e. LP # 2 of the two-fer) by that name, since the name only applies to the first session, not the second. The reason it's a point of contention is because as a result of people using this title to describe the second session, newbie posters on board krypton were getting hopelessly confused and asking such questions as: 'WOW. According to the AMG, Booker Ervin has an unissued BN session with Horace Parlan and Grant Green and Woody Shaw!'. Bertrand.

I'm not sure what it says in the notes to the quintet box which I don't have, but here is what is recounted in Jack Chambers' book Milestones (first edition, paperback, end of chapter 10). Wayne refers to his familiarity with Miles' music; Wayne has recounted this anecdote a number of times. Chambers' quote is from a 1982 article in DB (Wayne Shorter: Coming Home) by James Liska. 'I joined and we opened at the Hollywood Bowl playing 'Joshua'. And we had no rehearsal. Miles had said in the dressing room, 'Do you know my music?' And I said, 'Yeah.' He said, 'Oh-oh.' Then we went on. For six years.' Bertrand.

The Miles Tribute band (Roney/Shorter/Hancock/Carter/Williams) appeared on the Jay Leno tonight show on 8/24/92. I remember because it was our first wedding anniversary, and also Jay made a point of saying that Wayne's birthday was the next day. They actually played two pieces (the second of which was a medley). The second piece was quite good; I remember the first was simply outstanding. The band reunited for the 1996 Monk saxophone competition gala (which was also televised). They did a very weak version of 'Walkin'. Bertrand.

If I was in charge of the CBS web site, I would immediately compile a list of the jokes that Johnny sent Dave in the last few years. They are his last statements as a comedian. They may even be among the few funny jokes that Dave has been telling of late (and I suspect they are not the Osama ones). I think this was before Johnny retired, but my favorite Letterman joke ever was from a top ten list of top ten TV shows of the year 2000 (this was back in the late 80s). One was a health special entitled: 'oat bran: the silent killer'. Crack me up every time I think of it. Bertrand.

So far it hasn't happened yet but... ...anyone who (in this thread) refers to the unissued 1968 Booker Ervin session with Woody Shaw as Back From The Gig will be forced to listen to Blood On The Fields for 24 hours straight without eating, sleeping or bathroom breaks. I know this may violate the Geneva convention, but the punishment fits the crime Bertrand.

I'm missing something: has Wayne changed his mind about this session? Bertrand.

Connoiseur requests (assuming that's what he means by 'get your dibs in now'): Larry Young: Heaven And Earth Larry Young: Contrasts Don Cherry: Where Is Brooklyn? Jackie McLean: Hipnosis (fat chance, I know) Andrew Hill: Andrew!!! Andrew Hill: Compulsion! Andrew Hill 2/10/65 Andrew Hill 3/7/66 Booker Ervin (with Woody Shaw) Lonnie Smith (pre-Dr.): Turning Point Bertrand.

Why is this top secret? We're the ones who are going to buy the stuff. Bertrand.

I'm getting more and more curious - if Wayne really dismisses his BN output so much (and this is not the first time I have seen negative comments from him regarding the label), then I would like to see someone try to expand on that, contrasting his opinion (or stated opinion, or perceived opinion - I'll have to read the passage carefully) on these recordings with the opinion of Hubbard (and thousands of others) concerning their influence. I skimmed through this passage yesterday, and I'm wondering if the real problem may stem from Wayne's disappointment that he did not have the wherewithal to have a regular touring band to explore this material (which he does now, of course). The Miles quintet was that band, but he was not the leader, which may have suited him just fine. Food for thought - this book, warts and all, may turn out to be the springboard for some interesting discussions. I do not agree, however, with an earlier post suggesting that Mercer glossed over the BN period because of Wayne's dismissal. This is not his autobiography - she was the author. Wayne was a crucial contributor, of course, but in the end, I think all editorial choices were hers. I could be wrong. Bertrand.

Dewey Redman is somewhat related to Don Redman (I forget how, but it's definitely the same family). They are most definitely not father and son Bertrand.

OK - read through the whole thread to make sure I am not repeating myself too much One thing that was mentioned was Andrew Hill suggesting to go see Wayne (at Slugs' with McCoy). All right, there's something I'd like to know more about. Hill and Shorter are two of the greatest living jazz composers. They overlapped on the same label in the sixties, with many of the same sidemen (Joe Chambers, Lee Morgan, Elvin Jones, Freddie Hubbard). Yet this is the first time I have ever read anything that alludes that Hill was aware of and interested in Shorter's music (beyond the obvious - of course, Andrew knows who Wayne is). I always wondered if they each existed in their own universe, but of course the NYC jazz community is tightly knight and always has been, so at some point in time they must have been in touch to some degree. But I want to know more - are they good friends, did they ever jam or practice together, have they ever discussed music or composition together? Both are highly elliptical people (but Wayne is NOT borderline mentally ill, for Christ's sake) who think 'outside the box' (to use a lame business cliche) - I wonder what their conversations would be like. I talked to Andrew briefly after a concert in Baltimore yesterday, but somehow asking him 'so, tell me about you and Wayne' seemed inappropriate. Wayne's name did come up in another conversation with Andrew a year or so ago, but it not meet with any particular reaction - I can't remember why I mentioned him at all. Bertrand.