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Peter Watrous - there's a name I haven't heard in a while, and I'm none the worse for it. Bertrand.

A friend of mine is doing a recital in November of Horace Silver compositions. I am in the process of digging up all the copyright deposits (tons of 'em, all in Horace's hand-writing), but these are lead sheets. We were also hoping to find arrangements. There are two books out there available for purchase, one from Hal Leonard and one from Jamey Aebersold. Does any one know which pieces are contained therein? Thanks, Bertrand.

Thanks, Dan. So, this is essentially the Horace Silver quintet with Hugh Lawson and Bohannon in addition (what does he play?). The two 'Soulin' tunes must be the same since Joe is credited in both cases (I don't have Prairie Dog either). The only remaining mystery is why Roy copyrighted it as his own tune, even though Joe was given credit on the LP. Bertrand.

Man, I bought this two years ago with the Border's 50% coupon (< $5) and have yet to listen to it! How pathetic of me - looks like a nice set. Bertrand.

Brandon, This is an amazing find. How long ago were these purchased? I assume it is much more recent than the main collection, which they got in 1992/1993. What else is in there? How much music would you say was on these two reels? The score was never issued on CD mostly because the story is that there's not so much music there to begin with. Mingus was slow and only got one or two tunes ready for the film. They fleshed out the rest with Shafi Hadi improvisations. Considering that his output does not exactly glut the market, I would love to see this released. I may be able to get together this Saturday. I'll call you. Take care, Bertrand.

Very interesting! As I was looking up 'Soulin' (before I saw your posting), this is what I found: 1. Registration Number: RE-601-483 Title: Soulin'. m acJoe Henderson. Claimant: Joe Henderson [Author] Effective Registration Date: 16Dec92 Original Registration Date: 15Apr64; Original Registration Number: EU821331. Original Class: E 2. Registration Number: RE-601-609 Title: Soulin'; instrumental. m acRoy Brooks. Claimant: Roy Brooks [Author] Effective Registration Date: 16Dec92 Original Registration Date: 20Mar64; Original Registration Number: EU818027. Original Class: E Note that they were renewed ON THE SAME DAY, and the original copyrights are only a month apart. So I need some more information: 1. Are the two compositions (the one from Beat and the one from Prairie Dog) really the same? 2. Who gets composer credit on the Brooks album? 3. Does Joe play on the Brooks album? Note: I just checked allmusic.com; Joe gets credit for 'Soulin'', and they also do 'Homestretch', so I guess Joe is on this record. When was it recorded? This leads to a very thorny issue: in case of dispute over authorship of this piece, Brooks has the edge due to the earlier copyright date. HOWEVER, Joe's lead sheet alludes to a 1960 date of composition. Hmmm... Bertrand.

A correction: 1960 is the date written by hand on the copyright deposit for 'Soulin'' (which I was looking at at lunch today while gathering some Horace Silver stuff for a friend who's doing a concert in October). I assume this is Joe's handwriting. However, according to www.loc.gov, the copyright date is from 1964. 1960 must be the date of composition (although I could have sworn it said 'copyright 1960'). Bertrand.

Joe Henderson has a composition entitled 'Soulin' that he published in Horace Silver's publishing company. The only recording I know is on Duke Pearson's Prairie Dog (1966), on which Joe does not appear. But Joe copyrighted this piece in 1960, before he even started recording (which was May 1963, despite what AMG says). Was this recorded elsewhere, possibly with Joe on board? Thanks, Bertrand.

In addition to playing music from 2 records that hadn't been released yet, in July 1969 at Juan-Les-Pins, Wayne Shorter is quoting his composition 'Super Nova', which has not yet been recorded. Bertrand.

THE BASTARDS!!!

I've read elsewehere (an article I have lying around somewhere) that Wayne wrote 'Elegant People' when he was at NYU. Therefore, Acuna was probably NOT the inspiration. I have mixed feelings about this book in terms of the level of research, but it does read very well. Also some very interesting info - I had no idea that Wayne and Booker Little were friends. Imagine the possibilities... Bertrand.

If people call it the Agartha band, wouldn't it be Sonny Fortune on sax? As for your last statement, I assume you're being tongue-in-cheek. Bertrand.

It was on Prestige which was then owned by Fantasy which is now owned by Concord which will now be distributed by Verve. That's how it wound up Verve. Bertrand.

Neither Patton nor Young wrote any compositions on this record, so neither is being paid for the reissue. Assuming, of course, that neither wrote the uncredited title track Bertrand.

The story I heard was that they intended to use some Miles (don't know what session) for the sex scene, but that the Miles estate nixed it. Rather than re-shoot the whole scene, they squeezed in a line about 'adding some Mingus on the other side' to explain why we were hearing 'Haitian Fight Song'. Because, of course, Sue Mingus was ready to let them use some of Mingus' music, no doubt for a steep fee. I agree - Cameron Crowe sucks. Almost Famous was truly awful. Bertrand.

Couw, Thanks a bunch! That was fast. My discography has the Walton and Shorter tracks swapped. I knew something was afoot - the arrangement on 'There's A Party' sounds like the kind of stuff Wayne is up to now. The mystery of the recording data for Golden Boy is still out there. Mike Fitzgerald has the details in his Blakey chronology. Curiously, I found an interview with Wayne in Jazzman from 2002 where Wayne is asked about his first experience writing arrangements for large ensemble. The interviewer suggest Freddie Hubbard's The Body and The Soul, but Wayne says that it is Golden Boy. This just doesn't make sense, though, because that would make Golden Boy from early 1963? Aric, 'Yes I Can' is from the Strouse/Adams score for the musical Golden Boy. 'Yes I Can, No You Can't' is an unrelated Lee Morgan original that appears on the Gigolo. To make things more confusing, though, Lee did later record 'This Is The Life' from Golden Boy in his 1967 session that was issued in 1999 as Standards (with Wayne on board!). However, the arrangement on Standards is by Duke Pearson, not Wayne Shorter. Bertrand.

Feather probably forgot about it because I made the whole thing up! Bertrand.

Could anyone who has access to an original LP of Art Blakey's Golden Boy please tell me who the arrangers are for each piece (I know it's mentioned in the liner notes)? I only have a French reissue without notes. I know the arrangements are by Shorter, Walton and Fuller but I don't think that the breakdown in the Lee Morgan discography I have is correct. Thanks, Bertrand.

Q: How do you make an Ornette Coleman LP? A: Leave a Charlie Parker LP out in the sun all day! (Just kidding - I love Ornette)

1553 was a session by the Feather family (Leonard and his untalented offspring). The results were so atrocious that Alfred had the tape erased and the session removed from all discographies. Of course, renumbering was out of the question due to the prohibitive cost involved. It is rumored that someone kept a safety copy of the Master tape

Frank Strozier?????? How long ago was this. My understanding is Strozier hasn't picked up his horn in 25 years. Bertrand.

This is very sad news. I got to know James a little (he played in D.C. a lot). He was a real gentleman, and a wonderful musician. He will sorely be missed. Bertrand.

In her Gil Evans bio, Stephanie Stein Crease suggests that the Doors 'Light My Fire' is inspired by the Gil Evans composition 'Jambangle' (I assume she is not referring to the leprechaun intro to the Doors ditty, which I have been told may have been lifted from somewhere else). From what I remember of Gil's tune, it seems like a stretch. Also, I one read that the Jefferson Airplane song 'Bear Melt' (which is more or less an improvisation on-stage) was inspired by a Gil Evans 'composition'. The only thing that comes close is 'Where Flamingos Fly', which Gil only arranged. Any opinions? Bertrand.

Cool! Another compilation! I can't wait. Bertrand.

The US Back To The Tracks did not have any alternates. It was True Blue that did. Bertrand.