bertrand

How do you grab this exactly? I have never used clyp. I got an account, but after that I am stuck...

Interesting - where did you look this up?

So awful. I just contributed. Thanks for letting us know.

Excellent! Was King Crimson aware of the recording, I wonder? Fripp is a stickler. Has his father already had these digitized? If not, that would be the next step.

Perhaps Kenny Cox and Charles Moore played there in the 70s, per an article I found by googling around. Teddy Charles and Mingus in the 50s, but that does not help.

I like those odds

Oh, these may not be jazz? If they are, we should come up with a plan. I don't want anything juicy to fall into the hands of one of those tape hoarders who will put out half of one and squirrel away the rest. You know who I mean. If they are Foreigner and Journey tapes, they can rot

Who currently has the tapes?

Zeke Tolin's only recording. Another shadowy figure.

Old 52nd Street Rag was one of the pieces that Herbie gave to Roswell Rudd. Rudd also included it in his book. He recorded it in his two volume Unheard Herbie Nichols set. I believe it is the only recording. Will check layer. I missed the backstory - it is Jason Moran who bought the lead sheets and whoever he bought them from gave him this CD? Interesting. I remember Fred Cohen at Jazz Record Center mentioning some lead sheets, and possibly he told me they were in the possession of Joe Muranyi. Maybe Jason bought these from Fred. I knew the interview existed but I was not sure who had it. I am still not 100% clear. It is funny how much mystery still surrounds Herbie after 58 years. Edit: The Tom Lord discography shows two other versions of Old 52nd Street Rag: Pianist David Haney solo in 2011 (CIMP) and Howard Alden/Marty Krystall/Buell Neidlinger on K2B2. Lord says 2017 for the latter but that can't be right, my CD says 2013. Rudd's version (CIMP) is from 1996.

What is the point of Concord buying up all these jazz labels? Back to the question which is still murky. On the one hand, the booklet has the shorter take as the master. BUT Bob Blumenthal says this in his liner notes: 'Once again, there is more snap in the master take - a crucial adjustment for a 10-minute performance'. Not sure what to make of that. However, he also says there is no bass solo in the master, and suspects it was edited out. He mentions Lee sounding tentative on alternate so I am sure the shorter take is the master. BTW, the titles for 'Blues A La Carte' and 'Harry's Last Stand' were reversed per the copyright deposits, but no one wants to believe me.

I based this on what is in my iTunes. Let me go back to the Mosaic box and make sure, although I doubt I switched them when I uploaded it

You are right, the solo orders are different. Lee solos last on the shorter (master) take and the ending could well be an edit, you are right.

The Mosaic has a Master Take (9:41) and an Alternate Take (10:18). The end of Lee's solo is very abrupt on the alternate. Less so on the master, but still somewhat abrupt. Bertrand.

I think it had a head, but I will listen again.

Listening now, it is awesome. Amazingly, since then, MORE new songs have surfaced! Herbie's grand nephew, Lawrence Sealey, had a trunk full of music he had kept all these years. There is a bit of water damage, which makes me wonder if these are in fact the pieces that Roswell Rudd had suggested had been lost in an apartment flooding. I am working on an inventory of Herbie's pieces and would like to reconcile it with the list that Roswell Rudd had gotten from Herbie's father which he had supposedly salvaged from the flooded trunk. I would like to ask Verna Gillis if she still has it, but I am a bit shy. What is puzzling is that Roswell said that the list had about 170 titles, but many were lost in the flood. But I also have approximately 170 titles, so in fact nothing may have been lost at all, unless Herbie wrote even more. What is amazing is that sheet music exists for all but 2-3 of the titles. The Library of Congress has a lot of them of course, and then there is the stack that Lawrence Sealey had. Roswell has 27, which he published in a book (1,000 copies were lost in a fire - I bought two). A few others are scattered, e.g. Bartok (as discussed in the Night Lights Show). Several of the ones with no sheet music are on the Bethlehem record, so sheet music can be made. One of them is Whose Blues from the Savoy date, now available on Don Sickler's website: Herbie Nichols | jazzleadsheets.com by Second Floor Music The site discusses the new pieces and the recording project described in another thread. 24 new songs played solo by 23 pianists (Frank did two, IIRC). I attended the first session on Herbie's centennial (1/3/2019), with Frank and Glenn Zaleski each recording one new piece. A dozen members of Herbie's family were there! Let's hope Don finds a way to release this soon, if only in memory of Frank who did so much to hip the world to Herbie... Bertrand. The Army Blues performing Herbie Nichols music; I helped organize this, the premiere was at the Smithsonian three days before: (296) The U.S. Army Blues | Music of Herbie Nichols - YouTube Ben Allison joins the Army Blues and two Nichols pieces are on the program (and some great pieces by Ben): (296) The U.S. Army Blues - Millennium Stage (October 2, 2018) - YouTube

Well, the CD says Confirmation. Are those not the changes of Confirmation? Isn't Confirmation itself a contrafact?

This CD is great! The first tune is not Confirmation, but a contrafact, I assume. No title is given.

I can put you in touch. Are you attending JEN next week? I just signed up.

Honestly, the more of us tell Sickler how much we want to hear it, the more likely it is to come out. He definitely was thinking about when I last talked to him in November, I will check in with him again.

24 newly-found Herbie songs were recorded by 23 pianists at the RVG studio in 2019. Don Sickler produced it. It will come out one day, not sure when. I was there when Frank recorded the lovely 'Tell The Birds I Said Hello'. This is just devastating.

I have a question about Smalls Live streams. There's one every day, sometimes two. I can't watch 'em all, I would go broke. So how do the donations work exactly? I know they are sponsored by generous donors, but there is also an option to donate via Facebook. How is it divvied up? Is the sponsorship funding for the artists and the donations for the club, or is it more complicated than that? I certainly want to keep the club going, but if the donation portion is for both the club and the artists, and not just the club, I would be inclined to donate more. It is hard to get a feel for what a reasonable donation would be. The Facebook page shows the total contributed and the number of donors for each gig, but the average is all over map. I assume relatives will sometimes pitch in large amounts, so there is no concept of 'average donation'. On principle, I don't want to watch without donating, but since Smalls starts with a sponsorship, the pressure to donate is a bit less intense than gigs where the artists have zero guarantee. Thanks for your input. Bertrand.

Great! Mine is on the way, but taking a while. TV show - does this mean there could be video?

Not familiar with the label - this is not a CD-R, correct?

Is it still possible to get the Dolphy Berlin concerts somewhere, or did I blow that?