Jim R

Here's the back cover...

I've got what I think is a fairly rare PJ specimen, which I bought back in the 80's from another collector. It's a copy of the Montgomery Brothers LP, "MontgomeryLand" (Pacific Jazz PJ-5, Stereo). I've never been too sure what to make of the label itself. Instead of the blue stereo label, this label is gold, with black printing. Although it's been a long time since I was a record hound, I don't recall ever seeing another gold label like this, and the gold is not mentioned in any of my old jazz LP price guides. When I first got it, due to the unusual label and its pristine condition, I thought it might be some kind of special reissue or something, but there were multiple signs of age (rice paper inner sleeve; vintage looking outer sleeve; writing in pen on rear cover), and no overt indicators that it was a reissue. Anybody ever see anything like this? I'll try to upload some images...

The Fresh Sound version of Ramblin is a bootleg produced in EU (Spain?) and is sourced from an Lp needle drop. There is also a mastering error as the tracks on the CD don't correspond to track numbers on the booklet. In case anybody gets the latest release of Ramblin', I just thought I'd provide some details on the track list. I just realized that I hadn't corrected the list, back when I ripped it to my ipod, so I figured this might be useful to somebody. The Fresh Sound CD listed only 8 tracks, when there were actually 9 (they omitted "Pensativa" from the list): 1. Ramblin' (Ornette Coleman) - 7:14 2. Stolen Moments (Oliver Nelson) - 6:45 3. Kilo (J.J. Johnson) - 3:39 4. Impressions (John Coltrane) - 3:22 5. The Sandpiper, Pt.1 (Mandel/Webster) - 3:15 6. The Sandpiper, Pt.2 (Mandel/Webster) - 6:57 7. The Sandpiper, Pt.3 (Mandel/Webster) - 2:18 8. The Sidewinder (Lee Morgan) - 3:17 9. Pensativa (Clare Fischer) - 7:32 (Also, "The Sidewinder" was apparently not listed on the original LP sleeve).

Perhaps some of the tracks came from a different session? (without Dizzy?) Can't vouch for its accuracy, but jazzdisco.org shows this: Dizzy Gillespie Sextet Dizzy Gillespie (tp, vo) Nat Peck (tb) Wade Legge (p) Lou Hackney (b) Al Jones (d) Joe Carroll (vo) Paris, France, February 22, 1953 53V4459 Always Disques Swing (F) M 33324; Vogue (F) V 5144, EPL 7940, LD 132, LD 496-30 53V4460 My Man (Mon Homme) Disques Swing (F) M 33324; Vogue (F) V 5150, EPL 7007, LD 132; Mode (F) MDINT 9369; Contemporary C 358 53V4460-2 My Man (alt. take) (Mon Homme (alt. take)) Disques Swing (F) M 33324; Vogue (F) LD 496-30 53V4461 I Got Rhythm (Clappin' Rhythm) Disques Swing (F) M 33324; Vogue (F) V 5150, LD 132 53V4462 Watch Out (Fais Gaffe) Disques Swing (F) M 33324; Vogue (F) V 5145, LD 134, LD 496-30; Pop (F) CBM 60016; Mode (F) CMDINT 9516 53V4463 Moon Nocturne Disques Swing (F) M 33324; Vogue (F) V 5145, EPL 7007, EPL 7940, LD 132, LD 496-30 53V4464 This Is The Way Disques Swing (F) M 33324; Vogue (F) V 5144, EPL 7007, LD 134, LD 496-30 53V4465 'S Wonderful Disques Swing (F) M 33324; Vogue (F) V 5151, EPL 7007, EPL 7940, LD 132, LD 496-30; Mode (F) MDINT 9144 53V4466 | V7835 Ooo-Bla-Dee Disques Swing (F) M 33324; Vogue (F) V 5151, V45-603, EPL 7596, LD 132; Contemporary C 358

Minor correction, brownie- it's "This Is The Way" on Vol. 2, not "This Is Always" At any rate, the question remains... why are the tracks mentioned by romualdo not included in discographies or (apparently) on the digipak CD reissues? I have the Contemporary 10" LP (Dizzy In Paris), and none of the tracks listed by romualdo were selected for that issue, fwiw.

Hi Tom, I've been pretty busy, but hopefully I'll find more time to participate. Frankly, most of what I've heard so far is a bit outside my realm of familiarity, but still interesting. You should go ahead and comment here with responses. Traditionally, leaders try to limit the amount of info (revealing answers) until later in the discussion, so that people remain "blindfolded" in the earlier stages.

The tune is Django Reinhardt's "Manoir de mes rêves" (aka "Django's Castle"). In the opening bars, it's a bit reminiscent of Jobim's "Dindi".

Nice stuff, quique, thanks for sharing. The Tele sounds good, but I prefer your sound with the 6120 through the deluxe. You've got great technique, and a fantastic chord vocabulary! In fact, you're pissing me off! There's a general guitar thread topic around here somewhere, and it might be fun to join that and share your experiences with your different guitars. Anyway, keep pickin'!

I think this topic has been discussed here before, but perhaps not in a specifically dedicated thread. Some personal favorites: ----- Former member Mike Fitzgerald helped to compile a list some years back: Jazz interpretations of show or movie scores

Magic Dick Magic Johnson The Great Flydini

Golson - Timmons - Morgan - Merritt

I'm very sorry for your loss, Rolf. My thoughts go out to you and your family. You have always struck me as a special guy with a great spirit and sense of humor. I can see that this was in part inspired by your wonderful partner, and I'm sure you will continue on strong in her memory.

Lefty Grove Orville Wright Senta Berger

I think I heard that The Machine collects (or maybe just eats) those. You should try to contact him. If that doesn't pan out, maybe Dubz would want them.

The kid who in went to the Astrodome the first year it opened (1965)) and sat out in center field for 50 cents(!) feels compelled to jog your memory to remind you that in 1962, the no-hitter would have been pitched against the: Texas baseball means never being able to forget the dark past, no matter how hard you try... Thank you, and please know that I practically expect to have my memory jogged every time I post. I was wrong about the year, too. I may have gone to a Giants game in '62, but the Marichal no-hitter we witnessed was actually in June of '63.

Well, I have to admit I was too superstitious to post a word here until this whole thing was over. I went to my first Giants game in '62 (Marichal no-hitter against the Astros at Candlestick), so I've been waiting a few years for this. This really eases the pain left over from 2002, when we really thought we finally had it in game 6 against the Angels. This team, however, was a lot more fun to watch, and a more likeable bunch of guys. A TEAM, in the truest sense of the word, with different guys providing clutch plays from game to game. Some of them are newcomers to the organization, and some are too young to realize what they just did, or what it means to many of us long-suffering fans, but I'm very happy for them as a group. They're a special bunch, and Bochy really knew how to get the most out of them. I knew it was going to be a real battle between Lee and Lincecum this time around. Lee was outstanding, and it's unfortunate that somebody had to lose in a duel like that. In fact, after the season Texas had, and the wait that franchise has also endured, it's unfortunate that somebody had to lose this series. Congrats to the Rangers for a great season, and pushing the Giants to be at their very best. I was kind of hoping for this series go 7, because I was enjoying it that much. Willie Mays was interviewed on radio tonight, and he really sounded excited. He was very impressed, of course, with the pitching staff, but he also praised Buster Posey as a kid with a very bright future. Willie is apparently under the weather, but everybody is hoping he'll be well enough to attend the parade on Wednesday.

I think you're confused... "So Danço Samba" (Jobim) and "Jive Samba" (Adderley) are two different songs. I have the Vaughan discography by Denis Brown, and Sarah only recorded one version of "Jive Samba", which was included on the "Viva Vaughan" album, as Bright Moments already pointed out. I've never heard of a Vaughan album titled "Live At The Copa", and it's not listed in the Brown discography. Maybe you're thinking of another singer? I don't know... I googled "Live at the Copa", and the things that came up were albums by Sam Cooke, The Supremes, Bobby Darin, The Temptations, Connie Francis... and nothing with a pink cover. Maybe search for artists who have recorded live versions of "Jive Samba" (assuming that's really the song you heard)? ===== Btw Brownie, Helio Delmiro is a guitarist.

Just noticed this thread. Kevin, I'm a bit older than you, but I'm in a similar place. We just became empty nesters, and it was less than two years ago that we lost our german shepherd. We're staying in touch with our two college students, whether it's via e-mail, texting, phone calls, or video chats. It's made it so much easier to deal with the physical separation. Both of them have adjusted well thus far to being on their own, and they're both doing well in school, so it's all good. For us, the empty nest isn't such a big shock, because we didn't see that much of our son (the younger of the two, who just departed) when he was still living here! As for the dog, we miss her, but it's also nice having the freedom to take off and not have to worry about getting care arranged. Everybody talks about the emotional difficulty of losing a pet, and it's true, but for us there's an even bigger reason that we probably won't get another: $ My god, has it gotten expensive to have a pet- especially if they need any kind of medical care. Kevin, I hope you get your health issues sorted out. That's THE most important thing. I'm fortunate to be pretty healthy, but more and more health challenges seem to come up as we get older. All the best.

That's nice to hear. I wouldn't care if De Jong never returned to that team. I heard a comment during yesterday's U.S./Colombia match that De Jong had once again broken someone's leg. I haven't bothered to investigate, but let's just say I wasn't surprised. The karate kick vs Spain (Alonso?) should have been severely punished. Alas, I never really find time to follow the EPL or other euro leagues. I follow my team (San Jose Earthquakes) in the MLS, and the U.S. national team. Unfortunately, under Bob Bradley, I think there is a false sense of security. We're able to achieve fairly decent results, but... talk about dull, boring football. It was so bad in the first half vs Colombia yesterday that I wanted to call the U.S. federation and complain. And we get to keep Bradley for 4 more years...

From reading some of the posts here, you'd think that Shearing died (or stopped recording) in the 60's, and never recorded anything outside the setting of the p-g-v-b-d quintet. I'm surprised that some of you seem to have made up your minds based on such limited listening. I think Peter Friedman said it nicely in his post. For those of you who want to hear something a little different, I recommend trying the MPS trio recordings, with Louis Stewart and N.H.O.P., which are now over 30 years old.

Fwiw, Jeff, you gave me a chuckle. I'm sure Michael will forgive you once he sees what your angle was. I can't believe I didn't recognize Griff on #13... gotta go back and play that again.

1. Talk about chops. That said, I don't particularly enjoy the frantic nature of this, although the technique is certainly astonishing. Also, I'm not really a fan of high-pitched solos, whether it's a clarinet, a trumpet, or any instrument, actually. For me, listening to this is akin to having a fly buzzing around my ears. I would guess that this dates to the late 30's, or 40's. Kind of has a hot club vibe to it. 2. I like this much better. This sounds like WWII-era. Very cool arrangement... I like the rhythmic variety, and how the whole band helps to create that. I kind of found the guitar intro to be a bit disjointed from the rest of the piece. Maybe I was expecting the guitar to remain a bit more of a presence throughout the piece. 3. Sounds like late 40's or early 50's. I'm terrible at trying to identify pianists, and I'm not sure I've ever heard this. I hesitate to guess, but could this be some early Bud? At any rate, it's tasty. 4. Jerome Kern's "Why Do I Love You", from "Showboat". I immediately think of Kenny Dorham's album on Time when I hear this tune, but this is a very nice rendition too. It's from...this 5. What a beautiful touch this pianist has. Great articulation and dynamics. Lovely tune as well, and again not sure I've ever heard this. Maybe Ahmad Jamal? 6. Well, the energy certainly changes here. Another track I've never heard. Nice simple structure and arrangement, allowing the pianist to wail. And wail he does. I'm hearing some things that remind me a bit of Tyner, or Hancock... but I'm shooting in the dark. This is less in my wheelhouse stylistically than the last couple of tracks, but I like it. 7. This is really nice. Nothing overly complex, but interesting and tasty. I'm as bad at identifying vibists as I am with pianists... so I was hoping the tenor would get a solo. Anyway, his tone is reminding me of Clifford Jordan. Another thing that comes to mind is that band with Harold Land and Bobby Hutcherson. 8. Have to respectfully pass on this one. 9. I felt like I didn't want to like this at first, but it kept drawing me in. I wouldn't buy it, but I found the chords interesting, and the drama well crafted. 10. Know the tune well... and I've forgotten the name of it very well. Always embarrassing. Is it a Cedar Walton composition? 70's era? That tenor player was blowing his brains out, but I don't know who it is. Sounded to me like he might have cut off the pianist's solo before the pianist was ready for it to be over. Anyway, great playing all around, and nice to hear a live performance like this. 11. This has a very spiritual quality... and nice dense harmonies. Obvious talent and skill here for how to organize, arrange and conduct for voices. 12. Structurally and instrumentally, this reminds me of some things I've heard while exploring Brazilian music. It doesn't offer quite as much in terms of melody as I would have preferred, but the overall sound and arrangement are very appealing to me. 13. Very nice, tight, together piece. Everybody is concise and to the point with nothing wasted... and two tenors is almost always a good thing, imo. Great way to finish things off here. Looking forward to learning a few things here. Thanks for the music, Michael!

I received two e-mail notices today, notifying me that I'd received PM's from Michael. The second one indicated that the first attempt had contained errors. When I went to the (second) PM, rather than downloading MP3's, I used the first (top) link, which provided a list of the tracks as online streams. They worked fine, and I've heard the whole thing. I don't know if this will help anybody, but just thought I'd share that info.

Just came across this on the Gruhn site: http://www.gruhn.com/catalog/ar.htm After you click on the link, go down to item #AR4121. This instrument should be worth close to $10K no matter who owned it. I'm not a big fan of the hoopla and big $$$ that surrounds "celebrity-owned" guitars, but I can't help but wonder what this thing would be selling for if some rock star like Clapton had owned it, instead of...

Michael, I'd like to participate. A DL would be great. Thanks.