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CASSANDRA WILSON TO RELEASE THUNDERBIRD ON APRIL 4 Produced by T-Bone Burnett Keefus Ciancia - keyboards Marc Ribot - guitar Colin Linden - guitar Mike Elizondo - elec. bass Reginald Veal - acoustic bass Jim Keltner - drums Bill Maxwell - drums Jay Bellerose - drums Gregoire Maret - harmonica tracks: Go to Mexico It Would Be So Easy Poet Tarot Closer to You (Jakob Dylan) Easy Rider (Blind Lemon Jefferson) Red River Valley (trad) I Want to be Loved (Willie Dixon) Lost (T-Bone Burnett) Strike a Match (T-Bone Burnett) album art:

How about Joe Pass "For Django"? I have the TOCJ and love it. Has it ever had a domestic BN release? I know it's originally a Pacific release, but there's precedence for that, at least in the RVG series. And I no longer understand what makes something a Conn versus an RVG any more, either. If not that one, maybe the "Sounds of Synanon"...

During my previous visit all sorts of things were discussed, in addition to the music being played. I don't think it's a problem, personally. But there is also the ability to "create" other chat rooms within the Live Chat that exist simultaneously. So if you wanted to have a different discussion altogether, it's easy to do.

I know you'll enjoy the music, and that's the main thing, but three of those Conn's are currently available for $5.99 from yourmusic.com (Andrew!, Fuschia Swing Song, & Tex Book Tenor). The other three were previously available there are well. I don't know if it's worth your effort to try and change your order or not, but you could get three other Conn's from them, and then pick these three up through yourmusic.com to save additional money.

Former Veep and Longhorn-bandwagon jumper Dan Quayle?

Is there a new clause in recording contracts that one must cover Bjork these days? Maybe there's an "in" for Jim, Joe, & Randy!

Interesting comments in this article about the possible motive behind this stuff. Seattle has one 12th Man too many No Aggie joke: A&M files for restraining order vs. Seahawks That it happened on Halloween 25 years ago turned out to be apropos, because the whole thing looked sort of scary at first. The officer of the day for the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets brandished his saber at an SMU cheerleader who dared step on Kyle Field's football grid to celebrate a Pony Express trampling that day of the Aggies. Fortunately, all that ensued was a brief wrestling match. The whole thing wound up to be a hoot. If any injury was suffered, it was to the perception of those who bleed maroon and white and consider Kyle Field turf some sort of sacred ground. Are they crazy, or what? Not that Aggies care what the rest of us think. They live to be a little different. As their saying goes: "From the outside, you can't understand it. From the inside, you can't explain it." The Seattle Seahawks, who just arrived in Detroit for Sunday's Super Bowl, probably weren't aware of that most-infamous event at Kyle Field that underscored the quirkiness that constitutes Aggiedom. But they know now. The Aggies just brandished their weaponry once again when they filed for a restraining order against the Seahawks on Monday. They're miffed that the Seahawks have started employing a 12th man slogan that A&M made famous for decades and trademarked in 1990. The Seahawks have hung a banner emblazoned with the number 12 on their home stadium, Qwest Field, and their team shop is selling game jerseys and pennants with the number. A fan Web site has computer wallpaper that can be downloaded which reads: "At Home We are the 12th Man" and "On the Road We are the 12th Man." "Calling your fans a 12th man is one thing," A&M's chief marketing officer, Steve Moore, explained to me Monday. Using it commercially, Moore said, is quite another. So A&M responded by asking Seattle to cease and desist, just as they've asked the Bears and the Bills to drop 12th Man type slogans in previous years. Moore said the Bears and Bills responded by shutting down any such references. The Seahawks responded by saying they haven't copied A&M's stamp and, in fact, have merely resurrected their own 12th man rallying cry from the early '80s, well before A&M trademarked the number. The cynic in me responds by saying this is more about A&M athletic director Bill Byrne, who was so successful at drumming up interest and dollars for Nebraska before being lured to College Station, seizing an opportunity to publicize his employer. There is not an Aggie joke here. This may not be serious business, but it is business nonetheless. For what A&M has just done is interject its name at no cost to itself into the biggest sports event of the year, where seconds of advertisement are sold for millions of dollars. It's the kind of move the inventors of Guinness brew would term "brilliant!" Texas fans, of course, would point out that it almost beats being in the BCS national championship game and winning it. After all, who is going to confuse the Seahawks' 12th man cry with A&M's 12th Man Foundation? No one. Can Seattle's use of the number 12 to pump up their fans really siphon off fund-raising or sales of 12th Man merchandise in College Station? Not a chance. Moore said the reason his office is complaining about the Seahawks is to demonstrate how serious it is about having trademarked the slogan 16 years ago. He said federal trademark officials demand such concern if the keeper of the trademark is to be taken seriously anytime a case threatening its trademark comes up. "We're happy for them," Moore said of the Seahawks' success. He pointed out that the Seahawks' strength trainer, Mike Clark, was the Aggies' strength trainer for 14 years. Seahawks defensive tackle Rocky Bernard is an Aggie, too. Seattle's use of "12" isn't just of little threat to A&M; it doesn't make much sense for the Super Bowl, either. The Super Bowl participating teams only get a small percentage of the seats at the big game. The NFL caters its title game for corporate sponsors. It doesn't arrange it for long-suffering season-ticket holders like those who've supported the Seahawks, a club that hadn't won a playoff game in over a generation, let alone ever advanced to the Super Bowl. But one thing you can say about the Seahawks' use of the 12th man motto is it's not real imaginative. As representatives of a city that gave us the new business paradigm Microsoft, the Seahawks marketing department should be forced to cough up the slogan just on sheer lack of creativity. And they probably will, next Monday.

They belong in this thread.

I get up to Austin a few times a year, and would love to meet up for a beer with folks. I don't know if I can make FFA's San Marcos show or not, but that would be alot of fun as well. There used to be a shop behind the now defunct Tower Records (in the same building as Technophilia, which later moved onto the Strip and then disappeared altogether) that had a decent selection of vinyl. There have been a couple other cd/vinyl stores next to the U. that have come and gone as well. And I think the place next to Fiesta is called Music Mania, but I haven't gone in there in probably 10 yrs. Nowadays I visit Cheapo Discs (9th & Lamar) & Antone's, they both carry vinyl as well. Probably not a great selection, but I don't know of anywhere that really does anymore...

I agree with you, Troy, on the timing. I think the general population down in Texas doesn't see to many Seahwak games, so probably wasn't aware of the 12th Man thing there. But I'm would surely think the A&M legal eagles who are bent on protecting this thing (for whatever it's worth anyway) would have said something long ago. I think that was a tacky thing for that kid to say by the way, too. I'm surprised that the 12th Man thing was not trademarked 50 yrs ago, to be honest. Maybe the powers to be didn't realize there was $$ to be made from it until then, or something. Who knows....

Hey, jazz flute is the new jazz sax:

It's ok to me as a consumer. I haven't worked the ethics of it from the artist's viewpoint, which is not a bad idea. I don't enough of the ins and outs of the business to know what agreements are in place, what goes to who, etc. to know about this end of the business. I'm a real live consumer like you. I shop around for the best prices I can find when buying music. I've bought music from the same types of places that you mention - indie shops, labels, artists directly, and so on. I also buy and sell (and trade) used cds, and don't have an ethical problem with that. I'm not creating new copies of music in doing so that the artists/producers aren't accounting for. I don't believe in downloading music illegally. I see no upside to this. You can't account for the possibility that some kid somewhere down the line may eventually buy a legal copy of Clapton's "461 Ocean Blvd", so therefore it's ok for him to illegally download it or burn a copy from a friend today (since he doesn't have enough money today). That's bunk. That's theft that's being justified in someone's head to make themselves feel better. Also, I'm differentiating illegal copying/sharing from legal downloading, such as emusic, itunes, and songs that artists (like Greg Osby for example) make available freely on their websites. Though personally, i don't really care for emusic and the like, because I'd much rather own an official CD with booklet etc. for my money. I don't have any algorithms. I just do what feels right to me. Like you do, like Rooster & Alexander do.

I fail to understand your point re: yourmusic.com. They only sell legally produced CDs, with the explicit approval of the labels involved. How is it "wrong" to purchase legal, legimate recordings through them or BMG? If labels don't want their music sold throught BMG, I'm sure they have the right not to allow it. In fact, certain titles are never available through yourmusic.com. And others are sold (at BMG) for full price, instead of their normal discounts. So it seems clear to me that the labels are in full concurrence with this operation.

Way to go, Ron. How was the packaging? Any transatlantic damage?

How about Norah Jones guesting on Charlie Hunter's album?

Museum visitor trips, breaks Chinese vases CAMBRIDGE, England (AP) -- A museum visitor shattered three Qing dynasty Chinese vases when he tripped on his shoelace, stumbled down a stairway and brought the vases crashing to the floor, officials said Monday. The three vases, dating from the late 17th or early 18th century, had been donated to The Fitzwilliam Museum in the university city of Cambridge in 1948, and were among its best-known artifacts. They had been sitting proudly on the window sill beside the staircase for 40 years. "It was a most unfortunate and regrettable accident, but we are glad that the visitor involved was able to leave the museum unharmed," said Duncan Robinson, the Fitzwilliam's director. The museum declined to identify the man who had tripped on a loose shoelace Wednesday. Asked about the porcelain vases, Margaret Greeves, the museum's assistant director, said: "They are in very, very small pieces, but we are determined to put them back together." The museum declined to say what the vases were worth. "I meant to fall down ze stairs!"

Yes. Illegal and unethical.

No apologies necessary Troy. I was just curious. I've gone overboard in my support for A&M here and there. I probably went overboard with the stadium comparisons too, but my intent was to show that it wasn't just some small rinky-dink college that was complaining, but a pretty large university. And I don't understand why the A&M folks didn't say something sooner as well. Seems like that's something they would have noticed and responded to a long time ago. Anyway, no harm, no foul.

I'm not going to defend anyone pulling sabers out and charging other people. I heard about that incident way back in the late 70's or early 80's. Those people hopefully were kicked out of the Corps of Cadets, if not the school. And I don't think anyone's life is worth risking to build a bonfire. I'd like to see the bonfire come back (officially, anyway - there is already an unofficial one that takes place off school grounds), but only after some sort of security/safety system is in place to prevent further loss of life. Jeez, I just brought this up because I found it interesting. I also found your comments about leaving Texas because of A&M interesting. You seem to have something against the school, and I'm curious about it. I never claimed anything about superiority in anything. And I'm rooting for the Seahawks in the Superbowl too. Have nothing against them. I don't care if A&M "wins" or "loses" this legal battle, personally. Just thought it was a topical story right now, and I found it interesting.

I'd suggest you don't REALLY believe in #1 then.

Looks like a slow week at yourmusic.com: v/a - Impulsive! Revolutionary Jazz Reworked (remixes from the Impulse vaults) Bob James - Three, and Touchdown Peter Malick Group feat. Norah Jones - NY City, the Chillout Album (how many times has this material been released now??) Joe Cocker - Mad Dogs and Englishmen (Deluxe Edition) George Harrison - Concert for Bangladesh couple of June Carter Cash & Rosanne Cash discs

I found this photo online - it was taken around 1930, and is of Kyle Field, the A&M football stadium. I think it's safe to say that the "12th Man" has belonged to A&M for a bit longer than the Seahawks, who didn't play their first game until 1976. It's also interesting that Kyle Field averaged 79,700 in attendance last year (during an admittedly bad season), while the capacity of the Seahawk's Qwest Field is 67,000. It's interesting to me to see the Seahawks appear to try to brush this issue off as some little college down in Texas with their feathers ruffled. Kyle Field today:

If anybody is interested, ArkivMusic is having a sale on Naxos titles, for $3.99 apiece. Appears to be classical only, not their jazz releases.

I don't understand your comment, Troy. The school has a trademark on "The 12th Man", and it has been in use there since 1922. It bothers you that they are trying to protect what they feel is theirs? Or am I missing something?

Attention Seattle Seahawk fans.....you AREN'T the 12th Man! A&M unhappy with Seahawks use of the"12th man" If you've been paying attention to the NFL Playoffs the past couple weeks, then you've probably heard the announcers on FOX refer to the Seattle Seahawks and their "12th man" theme, which is a huge #12 flag that flies above the Space Needle. The team has invited former players and sports figures in the community to raise the flag before home games. The 12th man theme is also a punctuation of the stadium noise from the sell-out crown at Qwest Field. But there a slight problem with this, as Texas A&M University owns the registered trademark to the "12th man" with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) and the Texas Secretary of State Office. This issue has recently been brought to the attention of the university, namely Director of Athletics Bill Byrne, and he stated that he is currently on the case to get the NFL club to stop using the trademark. Byrne mentioned that he had similar situations with the Buffalo Bills and Chicago Bears, and they immediately stopped using the trademark once asked, but it hasn't been so simple with the Seahawks franchise so far. The 12th man tradition began in 1922 during a game between Texas A&M and Centre College, and became especially popular during the Jackie Sherrill era at the school when he began field a kickoff unit featuring all walk-ons. During that time, the unit never allowed an opponent to run a kick back for a touchdown. Nearly 15 years later, current head coach Dennis Franchione reinstated the all walk-on kick unit this past season. With the Seahawks and owner Paul Allen's refusal so far to drop the 12th man theme, the Texas A&M Aggies could have a good ol' fight on their hands before they even kickoff the 2006 season.