Aggie87

Yes. Illegal and unethical.

No apologies necessary Troy. I was just curious. I've gone overboard in my support for A&M here and there. I probably went overboard with the stadium comparisons too, but my intent was to show that it wasn't just some small rinky-dink college that was complaining, but a pretty large university. And I don't understand why the A&M folks didn't say something sooner as well. Seems like that's something they would have noticed and responded to a long time ago. Anyway, no harm, no foul.

I'm not going to defend anyone pulling sabers out and charging other people. I heard about that incident way back in the late 70's or early 80's. Those people hopefully were kicked out of the Corps of Cadets, if not the school. And I don't think anyone's life is worth risking to build a bonfire. I'd like to see the bonfire come back (officially, anyway - there is already an unofficial one that takes place off school grounds), but only after some sort of security/safety system is in place to prevent further loss of life. Jeez, I just brought this up because I found it interesting. I also found your comments about leaving Texas because of A&M interesting. You seem to have something against the school, and I'm curious about it. I never claimed anything about superiority in anything. And I'm rooting for the Seahawks in the Superbowl too. Have nothing against them. I don't care if A&M "wins" or "loses" this legal battle, personally. Just thought it was a topical story right now, and I found it interesting.

I'd suggest you don't REALLY believe in #1 then.

Looks like a slow week at yourmusic.com: v/a - Impulsive! Revolutionary Jazz Reworked (remixes from the Impulse vaults) Bob James - Three, and Touchdown Peter Malick Group feat. Norah Jones - NY City, the Chillout Album (how many times has this material been released now??) Joe Cocker - Mad Dogs and Englishmen (Deluxe Edition) George Harrison - Concert for Bangladesh couple of June Carter Cash & Rosanne Cash discs

I found this photo online - it was taken around 1930, and is of Kyle Field, the A&M football stadium. I think it's safe to say that the "12th Man" has belonged to A&M for a bit longer than the Seahawks, who didn't play their first game until 1976. It's also interesting that Kyle Field averaged 79,700 in attendance last year (during an admittedly bad season), while the capacity of the Seahawk's Qwest Field is 67,000. It's interesting to me to see the Seahawks appear to try to brush this issue off as some little college down in Texas with their feathers ruffled. Kyle Field today:

If anybody is interested, ArkivMusic is having a sale on Naxos titles, for $3.99 apiece. Appears to be classical only, not their jazz releases.

I don't understand your comment, Troy. The school has a trademark on "The 12th Man", and it has been in use there since 1922. It bothers you that they are trying to protect what they feel is theirs? Or am I missing something?

Attention Seattle Seahawk fans.....you AREN'T the 12th Man! A&M unhappy with Seahawks use of the"12th man" If you've been paying attention to the NFL Playoffs the past couple weeks, then you've probably heard the announcers on FOX refer to the Seattle Seahawks and their "12th man" theme, which is a huge #12 flag that flies above the Space Needle. The team has invited former players and sports figures in the community to raise the flag before home games. The 12th man theme is also a punctuation of the stadium noise from the sell-out crown at Qwest Field. But there a slight problem with this, as Texas A&M University owns the registered trademark to the "12th man" with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) and the Texas Secretary of State Office. This issue has recently been brought to the attention of the university, namely Director of Athletics Bill Byrne, and he stated that he is currently on the case to get the NFL club to stop using the trademark. Byrne mentioned that he had similar situations with the Buffalo Bills and Chicago Bears, and they immediately stopped using the trademark once asked, but it hasn't been so simple with the Seahawks franchise so far. The 12th man tradition began in 1922 during a game between Texas A&M and Centre College, and became especially popular during the Jackie Sherrill era at the school when he began field a kickoff unit featuring all walk-ons. During that time, the unit never allowed an opponent to run a kick back for a touchdown. Nearly 15 years later, current head coach Dennis Franchione reinstated the all walk-on kick unit this past season. With the Seahawks and owner Paul Allen's refusal so far to drop the 12th man theme, the Texas A&M Aggies could have a good ol' fight on their hands before they even kickoff the 2006 season.

Saw mention of this on the SH Forums... Nels Cline plays the music of Andrew Hill group - Nels Cline, Ben Goldberg, Andrea Parkins, Bobby Bradford, Devin Hoff, & Scott Amendola 01/27 Winters, CA - The Palms Playhouse 01/30 Oakland, CA - Yoshi's 02/03 Culver City, CA - Club Tropical Anybody see the show last night? Or planning on one of the other two? The person who posted comments really has me intrigued about this show. There aren't any other dates for this group on Cline's website, but I'd love to see this if they continue it at any point.

Save you a little effort, as I already did this. Assuming these are all the same takes... 1 Swinging at Sugar Ray's - Baby Face Willette "Face to Face" 2 Lone Star Shuffle - Don Wilkerson "Elder Don" 3 Blind Man, Blind Man - Herbie Hancock "My Point of View" 4 Boop Bop Bing Bash - George Braith "Soul Stream" 5 Backup - Larry Young "Into Somethin" 6 Let 'Em Roll - John Patton "Let 'Em Roll" 7 The Yodel - John Patton "Got a Good Thing Goin" 8 Hold On! I'm Comin' - Reuben Wilson "Love Bug" 9 Hey, Western Union Man - Grant Green "Alive!" bonus track 10 Count Every Star - Ike Quebec "Blue and Sentimental The only one of those I'm missing is "Alive!". I still think this would be a cool disc to have though. And I love the cover!

I obviously don't speak Danish, but that sure looks similar to what we say in Texas: The feller that smelt it dealt it.

He could play a mean "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" though!

Jim - I didn't see "Noisy Old Men" listed in allmusic.com either. But it is listed on Gary Chaffee's website, as well as Mick Goodrick's website. Both sites link to cdfreedom.com, for purchasing the disc. If you need further information, let me know, and I'd be glad to follow up.

For me the Challenger explosion was quite a bit bigger impact than Chernobyl. It was "THAT big a deal". I was in class at Texas A&M, when someone came in and informed the professor what had happened. He looked like he was hit by a truck, and then told us what had happened, and said he had to go. He also happened to work for NASA in Houston. Classes at the university (40,000 students) were cancelled for the rest of the day, and I remember going home and watching the news with a few buddies in complete silence for the rest of the day. We all were zombies for a few days. The Chernobyl seemed to gradually come out in bits and pieces over time, to me. It didn't have the huge wallop that Challenger did. It may have had more overall effect and loss of lives, but there seemed to be alot of confusion and cover-up in what was being released to the news.

There's alot of good stuff in that sale. I ordered a few ECMS, Matthew Shipp/Roscoe Mitchell, Tim Berne, Mark Dresser, and a few others.... I hope their used are in decent shape, but for those prices, I'm willing to take a chance!

Scofield & Mayer on Leno video

A pic to wet the appetite, from the 8 Nov 04 show in Milano...

The DeJohnette/Scofield/Goldings trio played London's Queen Elizabeth Hall at the Royal Festival Hall on 21 November 2004, according to this source. I don't believe this group toured Europe in 2005, so I believe this is the show. I've known this was coming for a while (posted about it in the Sco thread a long time ago), but am glad to see that this is going to be apparently be a whole show, as opposed to selections.

The artwork on the BN site is as Eric describes, and I agree it looks alot better:

A few years ago I came across this CD in a store in Germany. It's a compilation of tracks Grant Green played on by other BN artists. Since I hadn't seen it before (or since), I went up to the counter to purchase it. However, the store was the type that kept all of their discs behind the counter in bins, and only had the jewel cases out on the shop floor. Needless to say, they couldn't find the actual disc at all, so I went home without it. Tracklist: 1 Swinging at Sugar Ray's 2 Lone Star Shuffle 3 Blind Man, Blind Man 4 Boop Bop Bing Bash 5 Backup 6 Let 'Em Roll 7 The Yodel 8 Hold On! I'm Comin' 9 Hey, Western Union Man 10 Count Every Star I believe I have all this material elsewhere, but kind of want this compilation, cuz it seems cool. Anybody else have this? Is it worth seeking out?

The Natural Gas Jazz Band

I don't know about anyone else, but this REALLY creeps me out, along the lines of the urban myth about kidney harvesting. Except it is apparently true. I can't imagine what this poor lady is going through mentally, or the family members of the "donators" once they are notified. Some major $$ in settlements is upcoming, I believe. edit - and it AMAZES me that body parts that are about to be given to someone else aren't at least double-checked for any potential hazards. One set of paperwork that was forged was enough to get this infected bone into her body?? Yikes!

Body-parts scandal spawns lawsuits Investigators say corpses were cut up, parts illegally sold NEW YORK (AP) -- Patricia Battisti had thought her back surgery in early 2005 was routine. A letter from her hospital nearly a year later made it clear she was wrong. Battisti was informed that the cadaver bone that was implanted in her back may have been infected with various viruses -- the result of what investigators say was a large-scale scheme in which corpses were cut up and body parts illegally sold. The Long Island woman now claims she contracted syphilis from the bone and plans to sue. The hospital adamantly denies the allegation. But the case may be an early warning that the gruesome body-parts scandal is going to lead to a lot of lawsuits. "I just want answers," said Battisti, 41, a single mother of four. "I had the operation to feel better, not get sick." Battisti joins a burgeoning list of potential victims. Authorities believe two men paid off funeral homes so they could take bone and skin from the dead without their families' knowledge. Worse, some body parts came from elderly people and perhaps victims of infectious diseases, and the paperwork was doctored to say they had been younger and healthier, investigators say. The Brooklyn district attorney's office has opened a criminal case focusing on scores of funeral homes in the New York City area and hundreds of looted bodies, including that of "Masterpiece Theatre" host Alistair Cooke. No arrests have been made. At the same time, the Food and Drug Administration is trying to trace the tissue, which was sold to medical facilities across the country and in Canada. Both the FDA and hospital officials, while suggesting certain patients should get tested for viruses as a precaution, insisted the risk of becoming ill from tainted tissue is minuscule. But some of those patients are not comforted, said Battisti's attorney, Jeffrey S. Lisabeth. "It really freaks them out," he said. Also disturbed are families who recently learned of evidence that their dead relatives were secretly carved up before being buried or cremated. A lawsuit filed in Brooklyn accuses a now-defunct New Jersey tissue bank, Biomedical Tissue Services, of stealing parts from a 43-year-old woman who died of ovarian cancer in 2003. The business allegedly forged a signature on a consent form, and listed the cause of death as head trauma. Authorities also found paperwork indicating Cooke's bones had been removed by the tissue bank before he was cremated. Cooke died of cancer last year at 95, but authorities say documents listed the cause of death as heart attack and lowered his age to 85. The operators of the tissue bank have denied any wrongdoing. Battisti's ordeal began in December, when North Shore-Long Island Jewish Health System warned her and 41 other patients that they were at risk for HIV, hepatitis B and C and syphilis. The letters explained that tissue products used for surgical repairs came from body parts that were removed without permission or medical safeguards. Doctors implanted bone in Battisti's back to relieve pain from a car accident injury. Her lawyer said a recent blood test indicated she had been exposed to syphilis; she is awaiting the results of further tests. The hospital's attorney, Anthony Sola, argued the tissue banks were responsible for screening and sterilizing their products, which arrive at hospitals ready for use in sealed containers. He also claimed anyone getting syphilis from a bone graft would be "a medical first." Unfounded allegations, he warned, could "create undue fear in patients who need treatment." Both Lisabeth and the attorney who filed the lawsuit in Brooklyn said they have been contacted by other lawyers and possible victims nationwide. "The number of potential plaintiffs is virtually limitless," Lisabeth said.

I wasn't trying to slight Chris either. In fact, I liked him in Reservoir Dogs & Pale Rider. And he was even likable in Footloose, goofy as his character (and the movie as a whole) was. I like some of Sean Penn's performances as well. I thought his performance was excellent in "I am Sam". The movie itself, not so much, perhaps. And I agree with most of the ones that Johnny mentioned as well. He's had some clunkers too..."We're No Angels" anyone?