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I have to disagree with your general comment about live music spinning off of studio music. That may be the case for some artists, but I can think of any number of musicians in the jazz arena (and out of it) who's live music - and recordings of that music - transcend their studio work. I agree with relyles comments above. There are good studio recordings, and there are good live recordings. I'm glad to have both, and don't see a need to pick one over the other, or even compare them.

I'm neither a big Kobe fan nor detractor, skill wise. Are you sort of saying he's a great complimentary player, but not necessarily a great superstar who can carry a team all by himself?

Anybody going to this? There are a number of performances I'd love to see! Vision Festival 2005 - June 14-19, 2005 AT CLEMENTE SOTO VELEZ 107 Suffolk near Rivington Tuesday June 14 - Flamboyan Theater 06:30 Joseph Jarman Opening Invocation 07:00 Henry Grimes Quartet with Marshall Allen, Andrew Lamb, Hamid Drake 08:30 Ellen Christi, Hamid Drake, William Parker, Daniel Kelly 11:00 WARM: Reggie Workman, Pheroan akLaff, Sam Rivers, Roscoe Mitchell Milagro Theater 07:45 Jorge Sylvester and Nora McCarthy ConceptualMotion Orchestra: Jorge Sylvester - alto sax, conductor, composer, arranger, Nora McCarthy - voice, composer, lyricist, poet, arranger, Gene Jefferson - alto sax, Hayes Greenfield - alto sax, Salim Washington - tenor sax, Tim Armacost - tenor sax, Jason Marshall - baritone sax, Vincent Chancey - French horn, Al Patterson - trombone, Curtis Fowlkes - trombone, Pat Hall - trombone, Aaron Johnson - tuba, Jeremy Pelt - trumpet, Waldron Ricks - trumpet, Michael C. Lewis - trumpet, Mac Gollahan - trumpet, Marvin Sewell - guitar, Pablo Vergara - piano, Jeff Carney - bass, Gene Jackson - drums 09:15 BEJEWELED: Terry Jenoure - violin, vocals, poetry & prose, and projected paintings, Margaux Simmons - flute, Maria Mitchell - dance 10:15 The Gift: William Hooker, Roy Campbell, Jason Hwang Wednesday June 15 - Flamboyan Theater 07:00 Steve Dalachinsky, Matthew Shipp 08:30 Roy Campbell Pyramid Trio with William Parker, Hamid Drake, guest dance Patricia Nicholson, video by Bob Craddock 11:00 Mat Maneri, Dave Burrell, Drew Gress, Randy Peterson Milagro Theater 07:45 Charles Gayle Ensemble with Hilliard Greene, Jay Rosen 09:15 Oliver Lake, Pheeroan akLaff, Michael Gregory 10:15 Wayne Horvitz Some Order Long Understood with Briggan Krauss, Billy Martin, William Parker Thursday June 16 Lifetime Recognition Fred Anderson Day - Flamboyan Theater 07:00 Joseph Jarman, Fred Anderson, Alvin Fielder, Tatsu Aoki 08:00 Sterling D. Plumpp - poet 08:20 Joseph Jarman Ensemble with Samuel C Williams - piano, Thurman Barker - percussion, Jessica Jones - reeds, Douglas Ewart - reeds, Rob Garcia - drums, Levy Jones - bass 11:00 Fred Anderson, Kidd Jordan, William Parker, Hamid Drake Milagro Theater 09:10 Nicole Mitchell Trio with Harrison Bankhead, Isaiah Spencer 10:10 Thurman Barker Strike Force with Eli Fountain, Raymond Tee, Warrren Smith, Bryan Carrott Friday June 17 - Flamboyan Theater 07:00 Other Dimensions In Music + Sound Vision Orchestra: Stephen Haynes - trumpet, Steve Swell - trombone, Joe Daley - tuba, Rob Brown - alto sax, Sabir Mateen - tenor sax, Scott Currie - baritone sax, Billy Bang - violin, Jason Kao Hwang - violin, Daniel Levin - cello, Warren Smith - vibes, Mark Hennen - piano, Andre Martinez - percussion 08:30 Postive Knowledge: Oluyemi Thomas, Ijeoma Thomas, Kidd Jordan, Harrison Bankhead, Michael Wimberly 11:00 Bill Dixon Quartet Milagro Theater 07:45 Whit Dickey, Rob Brown, Joe Morris, Roy Campbell 09:15 David Budbill, William Parker, Hamid Drake 10:15 Eloping with the Sun: Joe Morris, Hamid Drake, William Parker Saturday Afternoon Performances 01:00 poetry reading 02:00 Tyshawn Sorey - solo piano 03:00 Todd Nicholson The Otic Band with Nate Wooley - trumpet, Steve Swell - trombone, Tatsuya Nakatani - drums 04:00 Guillermo E. Brown's Cut-Up Quintet with Matana Roberts - reeds, Shoko Nagai - keys, electronics, Peter Evans - trumpet, Keith Witty - bass, Guillermo E. Brown - drums, electronics 05:00 Tatsuya Nakatani N.R.A.: Tatsuya Nakatani- percussion, Vic Rawlings - open circuit electronics and speakers, cello, Ricardo Arias - balloons Saturday June 18 - Flamboyan Theater 07:00 Billy Bang, Shoji Hano, Ngo Thanh Nahn, Todd Nicholson 08:30 The Eddie Gale Now Band featuring William Parker: Eddie Gale - trumpet, Ismael Navarette - tenor sax, soprano sax, flute, John Gruntfest alto sax, William Parker - bass, Valerie Mih - piano, T. Squire Holman - drums 11:00 Peter Brotzmann, Nasheet Waits Milagro Theater 07:45 Leroy Jenkins and Felicia Norton - dance 09:15 Joe McPhee, Lori Freedman Duo 10:15 PaNic: Kevin Bachman, Jacquiline Lorenzi, Osamu Uehara, Patricia Nicholson, William Parker, Alvin Fielder, Rob Brown Sunday June 19 - Flamboyan Theater 07:00 Little Huey Creative Music Orchestra 08:30 Joelle Leandre, India Cooke 11:00 Matthew Shipp, William Parker, Sabir Mateen. Han Bennink Milagro Theater 07:45 Karen Borca Quartet with Rob Brown, Newman Taylor Baker, Todd Nicholson 09:15 Rob Brown - alto sax with Daniel Levin - cello, Satoshi Takeishi - percussion, Jo Wood Brown - art installation, video sounds, Nancy Zendora Dance Company with Rochelle Austin, Marie Baker-Lee, Juan Merchan, Nancy Zendora 10:15 Dennis Gonzalez Yells At Eels featuring Oliver Lake: Dennis Gonzalez - trumpet, Oliver Lake - soprano sax, alto sax, Aaron Gonzalez - bass, Stefan Gonzalez - drums

Joe - see this thread. Alot of discussion...

Do I hear a second for "Freebird" as a hidden track on the new cd?

Man, I got a sunburn yesterday, and you guys up north are still wearing earmuffs?? B-)

I think this is a GREAT idea, Jim! I just signed up!

Very nice story, Al! That's some bonding that will stay with you both for the rest of your life. I'm helping coach my daughter's kickball team right now (i know i know, kickball you say, but it's an organized league, and very popular with girls here, they even have adult leagues). The team is all beginners, 6-8 years old, but they're having alot of fun, and learning to work together as a team. It's fun for me as well, and while we haven't had any special moments like you did, I would regret if I didn't try to be as involved in my kid's lives like this as they grow up.

okay wes, nobody else has asked, so I will. What's that gun for? :rsmile:

My list is short. I met Sidewinder, who was visiting from the U.K, in Stuttgart in Vinyl West, a great used store! Had a nice, short discussion with him, then it was time to brave the afternoon traffic home. I recall he had a pretty decent haul of LPs from that place B-)

This is available at yourmusic.com for $14.97....

That thread must have been removed. The only one I can find with "pulp" in the title is "Have you ever fantasized being beaten to a bloody pulp by a drunken nun?"

I don't really care where it goes, if the mods wanna move it that's alright by me. I considered it, but figgered it was more historical than political....or at least it should be, in 2005.

I noticed this on another board I visit. It originally came from Drudge apparently. Jane is going to be on tonight's 60 Minutes... ************************ JANE FONDA REGRETS THE "BETRAYAL" HER PHOTO ON A NORTH VIETNAMESE ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUN SYMBOLIZED - "60 MINUTES" SUNDAY Iconic Actress Wasn't "Forced" by Husband Roger Vadim Into Three-Way Sex, But Says "I Went Along With it" in Her First Interview About Her Upcoming Autobiography Jane Fonda has no regrets about her trip to North Vietnam in 1972 - with one big exception: her visit to a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun site used to shoot down U.S. pilots. She says her appearance there, which earned her the epithet "Hanoi Jane," was a "betrayal" of the U.S. military, its soldiers and "the country that gave me privilege. "She regards the event as one of the biggest mistakes of her life. Fonda speaks to Lesley Stahl in her first interview about her upcoming autobiography, Jane Fonda: My Life So Far, for a 60 MINUTES report to be broadcast Sunday, April 3 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. "The image of Jane Fonda, Barbarella, Henry Fonda's daughter...sitting on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal...the largest lapse of judgment that I can even imagine," says Fonda. She does not regret, however, visiting the enemy capital, Hanoi, or being photographed with American prisoners of war there - despite the propaganda value it afforded the enemy. "There are hundreds of American delegations that had met with the POWs," says Fonda. "Both sides were using the POWs for propaganda....It's not something that I will apologize for," she says. Nor is she sorry for the broadcasts she made on Radio Hanoi, something she asked the North Vietnamese to do. "Our government was lying to us and men were dying because of it, and I felt I had to do anything that I could to expose the lies and help end the war," she tells Stahl. She went on Radio Hanoi at least 10 times, speaking directly to American pilots and criticizing their bombing of North Vietnam. Fonda insists she did not ask the pilots to disobey orders. "I'm asking them to consider [not bombing North Vietnam]," says Fonda. She wouldn't make similar broadcasts in Iraq today, however, saying, "I don't think it's the same situation at all. When I went [to North Vietnam]...we had been fighting in Vietnam for eight years. The majority of Americans...[and] Congress opposed the war. It was a desperate time." Fonda is also candid about her private life, revealing, for example, that she willingly participated in three-way sex at the request of her first husband, Roger Vadim, the French film director. "One night Vadim brought another woman into my bed and I went along with it....I'm competitive...I was going to keep up with the Joneses. It was the 60s and whatever," she tells Stahl, adding that she isn't sure if she liked the menage a trois. But, "I know one thing: it really hurt me...and it reinforced my feeling I wasn't good enough." She went along with the sex, she says, because "I felt that if I said no, that he would leave me and I couldn't imagine myself without him." Sometimes Fonda solicited the women herself. "Hey, if that's what he wanted, I'd give it to him in spades," she tells Stahl. She says the women she procured for Vadim were call girls and that she used what she learned from them for her Oscar-winning turn as a prostitute in "Klute." Asked why she would write about such private matters, Fonda responds, "I knew that if I didn't really fess up about how far I went in the betrayal of my heart, that it would not make the journey that I've been on...as important and as poignant."

*Rubber-necker watching as accident is about to unfold mode ON* In the JC "What are you listening to?" thread, Che posted: "Nothing at the moment. Will post in the future what is on my list." (note - I find that just lame - if you're not listening to anything WHY POST in a "what are you listening to thread??) His banning has already been called for in this same thread already, as well.

It has to be him....check out the caliber of his comments:

30 user(s) active in the past 15 minutes 9 guests, 18 members 3 anonymous members Aggie87, louba, Jim Alfredson, connoisseur series500, MartyJazz, wesbed, TheMusicalMarine, che, AfricaBrass, Jazzmoose, indigo, ejp626, Elis, Nate Dorward, Martin, bebopbob, cayetano, Soulstation1

to Maren for the best cartoon of the week!!! ...and I still say Che was a robot.

Isn't that a bit overly dramatic? If he decided he had had enough of this place (or felt that we had had enough of him), why didn't he just leave and not come back? Is he attempting to make some sort of statement? If so, I don't get it.

While the process of selecting a new pope may seem secretive or maybe confusing, I would guess it's not complicated, and is well established within the Vatican chambers. I'd bet there are all sorts of politics involved as well. But I'd also bet they are well prepared. I agree with Chris in that it's a very silly question...

The updated article at cnn.com also pointed out that that him receiving last rites was not necessarily a sign that he was dying. They also pointed out that the Pope had received last rites after his assassination attempt in '81.

...From CNN.com VATICAN CITY (CNN) -- Pope John Paul II was given the last rites of the Roman Catholic Church late Thursday night as his health deteriorated, a Vatican source has told CNN. The pope is suffering from a high fever caused by a urinary tract infection, the Vatican confirmed Thursday -- one day after revealing he had been put on a nasal feeding tube for nutrition The pope is taking antibiotics, a Vatican spokesman said. Joaquin Navarro-Valls said in a statement released Wednesday: "To improve his calorific intake and promote an efficient recovery of his strength, nutrition via the positioning of a nasal-gastric tube has begun." The pope underwent a tracheotomy February 24 and still has a tube inserted in his windpipe to help his breathing. Earlier Wednesday, the pope appeared at his studio window and blessed the thousands of faithful in St. Peter's Square. He appeared alert during the four-minute appearance, which drew cheers from the crowd gathered beneath his window. He raised his hand in blessing and made the sign of the cross as a Vatican official read greetings and prayers. A microphone was raised to his face as he tried to speak, but the words were not clear. The pope has spent a total of 28 days in two stints at Gemelli hospital in Rome in the past two months. Nicola Cerbino, a spokesman at the hospital, said Wednesday that there was no plan to hospitalize the pope. On Monday the pope skipped the post-Easter Angelus prayer for the first time in his 26-year papacy. The 84-year-old pope suffers from a number of chronic illnesses, including crippling hip and knee ailments, and Parkinson's disease, a progressive neurological disorder that can make breathing difficult. Throughout his various illnesses and brushes with death, even after the assassination attempt against him in 1981, the pope always said his life was in God's hands.

che. I was responding to the portion of your original post that asked "Anyone familier with ...Cuban music/Jazz in general? Or do you have any recommendations?" Unless you are specifically trying to separate Cuban jazz from Afro-Cuban jazz, in which case I apologize. Erik.

che. one more time. please do searches. Afro Cuban Jazz Music Erik.

I've got four of them (Porter, Rodgers & Hart, Arlen, & Berlin), and think they're great! Has the Kern just been remastered?