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I know I've said this elsewhere here, but I'll say it again - I love what Bennie Maupin does on bass clarinet here, IMHO it's the glue that holds BB together and makes it different than anything else. I also think Teo should get some kinda award for creative production realizing an artist's vision with minimal direction from the ever-cryptic Miles.

I fail to see that Elvis, the actual person not the myth, is in any way responsible for the Southern Strategy, the Tea Party or any such thing. And while the SS is indeed a cynical and manipulative thing, it's just a by product of the end of one party rule in the South, which was, overall, a good thing (and my wife's a Dem committee person). About the music - lets talk about this supposed lack of 'pocket', I just don't hear it that way. I do hear some sonic similarity twixt elvis/scotty/bill and other trios of their rough timeframe - Nate Cole's, Amahd Jamal's, etc. I think the htread whas stayed pretty polite, esp'ly considering what I was tempted to say.

So I went down to my music room last night and listened again, 'cause wometimes things change right before your ears and there's lots of stuff I used to love that I don't no more. But not here: I hear beauty, joy and wonder (@Sun and sometimes latter) - maybe based on a fantasy/maybe not. and rhythmic assurance - swing/pocket/rock/call it whatchawanna - right out the ying yang. It's like we're looking at my blue/green and I'm saying it's one color and you're saying it's another - not blue v. green, that reasonable people could disagree on, you're telling me it's blackest black and no amount of theory is going to get me there. People may love Elvis for all sorts of bad reasons, so what? If there's anyone who got credit for some social upheaval for showing up with a limited skill set and doing what they were told, I think the Sex Pistols are better candidates for that dubious distinction than Elvis.

it's Boxing Day, the 2nd day of Christmas, so I'm gonna take the high road as much as I can manage - everyone has their blind spot and this apparently is yours, I certainly have mine - I'm going to go play one of my C-melodeys and listen to Elvis at Sun and consider what you've said 'bout "no pocket", hope you'll do the same for me one day. maybe you were looking too hard...it happens.

The only "need" being filled here is your need to feel better than People Who Like Elvis, kinda pitiful and it don't say nothin' 'bout the music at all. By the way I don't think Charlie C or Bix B were 'real full men' either but I don't let it stop me from enjoying their music.

Elvis @ Sun = more-brilliant-than-you-are-apparently-capable-of-understanding

I own two vintage (1920's) C-melodies, a conn and a King. They are quite different from each other so I would take comments about C's in general with a grain of salt. That said, vintage C mouthpieces do tend to be quite stuffy, modern purpose built C mpc or a shortshank Selmer jazz tenor mpc would probably be the way to go but mpc are v. personal, think where you stick 'em! It takes a certain level of committment to make a C, or any other vintage and/or oddball instrument, your main axe. Good tone is a v. personl thing too, see the disagreement here re J McL's intonation, etc. But if you really want to, it's doable.

I will resist the temptation to go full on rude here and put it as politely as I can: IMHO talking about Capt Beefheart as a "rock guy" in this, or any other, context is largely unhelpful/meaningless. If there is any comparison to be drawn, how 'bout why was the 'rock world' more open to this particular difficult eccentric than the 'jazz world' or the 'blues world'... My one suggestion re the 'why' posited above is it's about context - since this is a 'jazz board' it might be assumed that we already know the're great, not so much outsiders - but all this putting people and (non)things in boxes is making my head and hands hurt... I did not mean to put him into a rock box. My "rock" comment was unnecessary to the point I was making and I should have deleted it. I have enjoyed Beefheart's music for almost 40 years. I bought Clear Spot the day it came out, with the clear plastic LP cover. I have Beefheart bootlegs. My love for his music is way up there with anyone's. My comment was really a comment about this community. In the past, when certain jazz musicians died, some members went out of their way to make repeated negative comments about them, with the justification stated that it was necessary to make the record accurate, to the point where it became unpleasant for some other members. But then when Captain Beefheart dies, every comment is glowingly positive, gushing even. I just found it very odd. If no one else does, then it's a weird quirk of mine, and can be quickly forgotten. Very well then, sorry if I went off on a tangent of my own...

Have you tried theDeshutes Black Butte Porter?

I will resist the temptation to go full on rude here and put it as politely as I can: IMHO talking about Capt Beefheart as a "rock guy" in this, or any other, context is largely unhelpful/meaningless. If there is any comparison to be drawn, how 'bout why was the 'rock world' more open to this particular difficult eccentric than the 'jazz world' or the 'blues world'... My one suggestion re the 'why' posited above is it's about context - since this is a 'jazz board' it might be assumed that we already know the're great, not so much outsiders - but all this putting people and (non)things in boxes is making my head and hands hurt...

Haven't seen any discussion of the latest attempt by the commies in the federal gov't to shove jazz down America's ear cannal...

Glad your prob was fixed. Just be glad it's 2003 not 2007 - I think the decision to make dbl spacing the default and you have to go to Styles to fix it is right up there with 'new coke' as a stupid move.

I like the A-P w/Sco, for whatever that's worth...

the linkage pretty quickly, but I think thaey missed the James Brown band's versions and Bobbi Humphrey's, with Lee doing the noblese oblige thing. I've often thought you could do a nice compilation of Bluenote does Bluenote with all the remakes on the label and with JB and Ray as ringers.

OK, this is funny! And then they go in the tunnel, woo-woo! For the record it is a quote from the movie A mighty wind That makes it a little less funny, but still...

"it's kind of a mess" - this should be a gov't required disclaimer on all jazz discographies!

No one's mentioned my fav - 1950, Bird, Diz, Bud, some bassist & Roy Haynes - Anthropology, Round Midnight, Blue n' Boogie(?) and Night In Tunisia. 20 minutes of jazz heaven to me.

So is Slayer his revenge 'cause one of the neighbours complained about Vince?

So why did CTI go 'tits up' and ECM is still with us?

OK, this is funny! And then they go in the tunnel, woo-woo!

I'll go with the team from the city that rhymes with fun, the Roughies 20.

Who carries the Grey Cup here in the States? My dad was not much of a sports guy but he would've been glad to see the Roughies do well.

My heartfelt condolences.

Still looking for sheet music for JG's "The Train and the River"...

Am I the only one who noticed that the hat doesn't show in the reflection? Or am I (not) seeing things?