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Just discovered this moments ago!!

Just stumbled on this footage for the first time — which seems to be a newer upload of the same thing that started this thread a few years ago.

Land and Hutch live in ‘71, great color footage!! Never seen this before this moment, seems to have been uploaded about a year ago.

Yeah, opening that link triggers my WashPo app to open — but no story appears for me. I’ll try on our laptop at some point (maybe tomorrow), but I sorta doubt it’ll work any better.

I can’t seem to find a link to any sort of WashPo obit for him — but my wife and I are WashPo subscribers. Also, searching on “roland cumberland“ on the WashPo app doesn’t seem to bring anything up. But if you or anyone can provide a link, I’m glad to get behind their paywall and share what I find.

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Who was it that quoted the Woody Woodpecker theme?? — more than just once, iirc. I know Woody Shaw actually recorded the tune (in the studio no less). But somebody, Woody? — and/or maybe Dex too? — did it as just a quote in one or more solos. That always sorta cracked me up — although I haven’t heard it in decades now (which leads me to believe it was Dex).

Willette doesn’t have enough general name recognition, even among jazz fans — would be his argument (not mine). But if Grant Green was on the date, sure! — Zev would go for that quick, I’d bet. That said, Zev has helped get a few obscure-ish things out… Larry Young in Paris (helped that Woody Shaw was on a bunch of it) — and Roy Brooks at the Left Bank (also with Woody Shaw). Probably some others I’m forgetting.

He’s mostly allergic to names that won’t sell.

I imagine all of us do. What some of us might not have are the bonus material that only surfaced in the last decade, and only in Japan. That would be the only reason for many folks to upgrade — and it’s a real shame they didn’t include those ‘new’ (newish) alternates. Real missed opportunity.

Appreciate this second-person (i.e. fairly direct) insight, Allen — but I also appreciate your abbreviated level of detail — which seems wholly appropriate in a public forum. (Enough for folks to get a sense of the situation, without getting too far into personal details.) Thank you, Allen.

Yeah, that’s a crime they haven’t included any of the recent Japanese-exclusive alternates. I’m glad I got all those I wanted with those alternates (Unity and Out To Lunch especially, plus Mode For Joe had a really nice one — maybe a couple others that were less revelatory).

Where’d/how’d you end up with a copy of that Habiliment LP??!!!

Which way is up?? 🤣

Was that this Herbie comp?? (Not seeing anything on Discogs with quite a ‘paper bag’ color to it, unless this is it. https://www.discogs.com/release/5686851-Herbie-Hancock-The-Best-Of-Herbie-Hancock Yeah, when I found The Prisoner up at JRM, I had literally never even heard of it before, had no idea of its existence. It was a brand new CD, but a cut-out, so it was already OOP. I was SO excited to get it home to listen to, especially since it had Joe Henderson on it! — who I already knew from two of his albums being half the my very first 4 jazz albums ever.

Check my link to that earlier thread — there’s definitely auditory evidence there!!

I was fortunate to have stumbled on a used CD copy of The Prisoner very early on in my listening around 1989 (on one of my trips to Chicago while I was in College, at Jazz Record Mart). While it wasn’t my first Herbie leader date, it might have been my third — and it was definitely one of my very first 40 jazz purchases. And I think(?) I picked up a copy of Speak Like a Child on that same Chicago trip (I was in college 200 miles away in western Illinois) — the second of Herbie’s two “Gil Evans”-influenced albums. I think I’ve cited either one (or the other) as “my favorite Herbie album” ever since. Over the years, more often than not it’s been The Prisoner — although early on Speak Like a Child was the winner for a good 10 years!

Not true!! It really is Black Narcissus!! See my previous post to an older thread here that has a link I found to a radio podcast that includes the audio proof!

Lot more prior discussion about these two, rare Japanese Henderson tracks — including my post about halfway down to a 3-hr radio show with an exact time index where to hear “Black Narcissus” — and the link seems to be active. It was almost impossible to FF to the exact time index on my phone (iPhone). But I remember when I first posted it, it was easier to get it to FF on my laptop — and even easier on my work PC (at the time), which brought it up in the windows media player. (Just tried on my phone again, and it’s still impossible to FF any way other than in 10-second increments.)

Good to have you back, Larry. Tell what you feel comfortable telling — we’re all mostly empathetic folks here. Glad to hear you’re doing better!

WKRP was a nightmare to negotiate the physical media rights for, iirc.

I saw him live back in 2013 here in DC, and I couldn’t connect with the music much at all. I was hesitant to be too critical then, because it sounded very much like something I ought to have liked — but I just couldn’t wrap my ears around much of any of it. I’ve never owned any of his CD’s.

Don’t know about any bootlegs specifically with the version of “Dancing Mist” with Joe (although there were a couple CD boots with the entire Phillips/Fontana LP, but with no extra material as far as I know)… …BUT, there was this obscure (legit) double-LP with just that one cut — and several other versions of the same tune (different bands) that came out in Japan only in 1971. https://www.discogs.com/release/7535147-Masabumi-Kikuchi-All-About-Dancing-Mist A friend of mine found it in the blogosphere somewhere a downloaded and burned me a copy — but the tune itself isn’t all that exciting, imho (iirc). But afaik, this obscure double-LP is the only source of the extra “Dancing Mist” track.

Excellent news!!