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The answers are probably all here… https://jazzmf.com/art-blakey-chronology-and-the-jazz-messengers/

Don’t mistake me, because I would gladly probably take Paxlovid again (especially if there was an nasty new variant). That said, the entire 5 days I was on it — and my wife too — EVERYTHING tasted like sucking on a bag of nickels. And I mean continuously. While we were eating, we could sort of half-taste our food kinda halfway-way OK. But the minute we stopped eating, it was back to that strong metallic taste. When I was a kid, did you ever touch the two poles of a 9V battery to your tongue to test it? It was THAT taste for 5 days, 24 hours a day. We chewed lots of gum, and at LOTS of red-hot cinnamon candies — and despite all my bitching here, it absolutely wasn’t that bad — and we definitely felt it was better than the alternative. Far as the Covid itself, it wasn’t quite as bad as the worst cold either of us had ever gotten. But we do attribute that to our both taking the Plaxovid so quickly, and we’d take it again. (I think we each lost 10 lbs over 7-10 days, easily, because food just didn’t taste all that great — which, again, was a good problem to have.)

Here’s 5. I’d seen this listed online somewhere, and then I forgot all about it, and wondered if I’d just imagined it! This seems to be a YouTube upload of the entire thing.

http://flophousemagazine.com/2019/10/12/cannonball-keepnews/

I’m probably told this before, but since nothing’s stopping me… Other than Mahler 1, which I heard early in college (maybe my very first symphony, come to think)… the first Mahler I heard as a slightly more seasoned listener in my late 20’s was #5 and then #4. And being utterly mystified by all the constant shifting tonality and chromaticism — and it just made no sense to me at all (I felt perpetually lost the entire time). I was also in the Kansas City Symphony Chorus at the time, and a year later we were part of a huge production of Mahler 8 (in our case, the symphony of about 650-700, iirc). Preparing and rehearsing Mahler 8 — with its huge double choir, often split into 24 independent parts — also made little sense to me… UNTIL we started putting everything together, and a few lightbulbs started clicking for me. And the week of rehearsals with the symphony and the performances, I really finally felt like I sorta half-got what I was hearing. A then, thereafter, the first couple Mahler symphonies I heard suddenly sorta “made sense” (6 and 7, iirc). After that I quickly started buying recordings — including the duo-piano arrangements of Mahler 6 & 7 by Zemlinsky and Casella — and Edwin Stein’s 1920’s small chamber arrangement of #4 (for like 13 instruments, iirc) — and I’ve been a fan every since. But, it really took singing 8, at least for me, to flip that switch.

I think Am I Blue might be just about THE sleepiest jazz record I’ve ever heard.

Did some googling, and aha! — THIS is actually what I was remembering, which appears to be three solo-trombone albums compiled on 2cd’s. https://www.discogs.com/release/4267729-Albert-Mangelsdorff-Solo And then, on top of that, I’m seeing there’s actually a second (Vol 2) 5-album (5-CD) set of studio recordings also on MPS… https://www.discogs.com/release/4267769-Albert-Mangelsdorff-Originals-Vol-2 All that’s in addition to the first (Vol 1) of studio dates — and the 2-album (2cd) live one you rightly pointed out.

Probably right. Might be 3 albums on 2 CD’s then — something like that, iirc.

I got one off Discogs about 2 years ago, maybe about $80 iirc. Can’t remember if it came from outside the US — but it might have. There’s also another 3(?)-disc *Live* Mangelsdorf set on MPS — but I haven’t gotten that one yet (might never, unless I see it for a better price).

Or asking another way, are there any other(?) studio Monk recordings with Dunlop besides those two (and the bonus material on their most recent CD reissues) — ?? (And I’ve already been told to get Monk in Stockholm, and Monk in Tokyo for some great live Monk w/ Frankie.)

Are Monk’s Dream and Criss-Cross the only(?) studio albums with Dunlop? Asking because I just heard them for the very first time only a few days ago (shocking, I know). And I was kind of blown away how well they hang together in terms of group interplay — almost like no other Monk I think I’ve ever heard in 30 years (admittedly, only a very random 8-10 albums at most, all the Blue Notes, and a smattering of others all over the place). And I think(?) Frankie might be the secret sauce that blew me away with these two albums — in part because my hunch is he has such a positive influence on Monk’s playing (which seems more snappy than I’m used to), and maybe Rouse too? I’ve sort of slept on Monk all these years, but these two albums were kind of a revelation for me on Tuesday and Wednesday — I listened to both of them 3x each over the two days (and thus this thread).

And Is there much consensus around this subject? I’m not deeply steeped in Monk — but from what I have heard, my intuitive sense is that one of the most important keys to the quality of a Monk release is maybe the drummer. And my further intuitive sense is that the drummer may have had some (big?) role in spurring Monk to his best work.

Didn’t even know he was here in DC — out of curiosity, what was venue?

“THIS PRODUCT IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR SALE IN THE U.S. ” hmmmmm…. Wonder why that would ever be??!!

From the article… “Another part of the translated text describes a dialogue between characters, in which Plato shows disdain for the musical and rhythmic abilities of a barbarian musician from Thrace, according to the statement.” I’m sure we can all sympathize, one way or another — which I suppose depends on whether you’re a barbarian or not.

Reminds me of walking into Euclid Records (STL) about 20 years ago —and among the CD’s they had sorta ‘on display’ up front was a David Murray disc with a thought-bubble post-it attached to it that said “This week’s new David Murray release!”. I recall audibly LOL-ing.

I’m my gosh. 75 seems so young. And when I think of all the music I have that he had a hand in, the mind reels. Such a legacy, and certainly a legend of a sort, in certain parts.

This seems to be it. It’s a YouTube ‘short’ — so it has vertical formatting.

Lee Morgan in ‘69! Herbie Hancock in ‘68

Was only vaguely aware of the Pablo thing, and really only the cover art rings any sort of bell (and just the front cover). Not sure I’ve ever seen one out in the wild, so I never had any idea what label (shady, or legit) it might have been on. https://www.discogs.com/master/1234634-Horace-Silver-Paris-Blues

That’s my memory too, except I thought I’d heard he had Lion give him the tapes so Horace could toss (more likely destroy?) the tapes himself. Or maybe that was just speculation I’d read — but I’d definitely heard/read that more than once.

Just broke down and purchased a copy of this book on eBay last night, for only ~$20 with free shipping. Looking forward to it! Edit: I love how I can find a 17-year old topic here on a very specific subject, and revive it again so easily! Such a nice benefit of forum-based discussions. Plus also having a board that hasn’t had the need to close/archive old posts like other higher-traffic forums (probably justifiably) have a need to do.

Just a fraction of what all he and Monk plotted at their frequent ping-pong games.

Gosh that’s sorry to hear, and with my dad almost 97 now — I have to confess I don’t think of 84 as being “that old” — even if I do realize otherwise. RIP.