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Bags’s Groove.

Used copy just spotted at Dusty. Not sure what they were selling new copies for, but this one is $12.99, fwiw. https://www.dustygroove.com/item/205402/Andrew-Hill:Beautiful-Day-Revisited

Especially for a band that lip syncs. Not even worth 10% of that, if you ask me, for that reason alone.

Ted Gioia’s West Coast Jazz, Modern Jazz in California 1945-1960 (U of C Press, 1992). Just stumbled a decent used copy over the weekend down in Richmond. Only a dozen pages in, and quite enjoying it! Definitely an area of jazz I’m a bit deficient in, beyond the scads of stuff I’ve absorbed reading posts around here for the last 20+ years.

Toe-tapping, to say the least!!

Yes, thanks!! — I would have never see this otherwise. This appears to be the original source, and there’s a bit more than just the quotes posted on the Hoffman forum. https://jazztimes.com/features/columns/steve-swallow-pete-la-roca/

Pennsylvania? Weren’t they in like Austria, iirc?

Reminds me, I’ve always wondered what all the sources were for the recordings used in the Eastwood film — and I’ve been curious to try and contrast the versions there with their re-recorded rhythm sections and such… with the originals (if any of those originals had ever been issued, or at least surfaced).

Full liners to the 2LP issue are visible here… https://www.discogs.com/release/10360001-Various-Cool-Europa-European-Progressive-Jazz-In-Germany-1959-63 Discogs notes say: Track A1 previously released on Francy Boland Ensemble; track C1 previously released on Bongo Jazzand C3 on Jazz Da Camera. All other music previously unreleased.

First Google hit, fwiw… https://sonoramarecords.bandcamp.com/album/cool-europa-european-progressive-jazz-in-germany-1959-63

Idle curiosity, is that Steve Jordan the drummer (and producer, MD, etc…)?? Best known now as the new drummer for The Rolling Stones, he’s been Keith Richards’ only other songwriting partner (and drummer) for all 3 of Keef’s fantastic solo albums. And Jordan has produced dozens of albums for quite a range of artists, including Bettye LaVette‘a last 3 albums — and played as a session drummer on 50+ albums. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jordan_(drummer) Is that who’s playing in this group with Tolliver, Harper, et al.? (I like Jordan, and his playing and production are usually a big plus in my book on what all I’ve heard at least.)

Might set up an eBay search that’ll run automatically (every day), with a price limit so you don’t get anything over $25 (or whatever). Be patient, and within 6-12 months one may pop up!! (I found another Uptown CD that way in a couple months, for less than $9 iirc (including shipping) about 5-6 years ago — a title Chuck said he’d missed out on, that I had shipped directly to him.)

Perhaps(?) an atypical choice… but as a composition, I’ve always been mesmerized by his “Reflections in D”

Totally agree, but I just caved and ordered one from mega-eBay seller get_importCDs — who has an automatic 25% off two or more items going thru the end of today/Sunday (and I got something else for my wife). So with get_importCDs’ free shipping, the McCoy/Joe ended up being $28 plus sales tax — and the other title for my wife ended up essentially matching Amazon’s current quite cheap price (of $11). But, yeah, even $28 is pretty damn high, imho — though I understand the packaging has quite extensive liners (but still, $28, sheesh!!)

I had a very similar reaction. I streamed it yesterday while walking, and txt’d a friend that Jack D really shines (first thing I said), and that Joe was really on fire too — that first song especially.

I think that very Black Lion disc was my second-ever Mal purchase (maybe 15-18 yrs ago) — after Free At Last (1969) perhaps a year before. Funny story — I was in a Half Price Books and heard some distinctive, brooding piano-trio thing on the overhead speakers throughout the store. And even though I wasn’t steeped in Mal at the time (not at all), I felt strongly it might have been him… and I made one of the HPB employees go find the 6-disc player in the back office, and after I’d followed him to the back of the store, he came out of the office with 6 empty jewel boxes saying “one of these”. And low and behold, it was that Mal Black Lion disc. I asked him if it was a disc they’d pulled from the for-sale stock out on the floor, and when he said yes, I said I’d take it! Got it home, and discovered that it was that extra ‘bonus’ live album (just two long tracks) that I’d heard in the store. And then within 6 months I think I’d tracked down close to half-a-dozen other Mal discs (specifically from the early 70’s), most of them live.

How / why did you end up with a copy, Chuck? (Of all people, I figure you’ve probably had all the Prestige Miles material for decades.)

$33 on CD from Amazon, seems to be the same from Dusty. Just saw it at Euclid Records for $38 here in St. Louis (flying out from visiting my dad this week). Blue Note web site is $33 (plus shipping, or free shipping if you buy north of $85). Anybody got a line on anywhere that has this cheaper on CD?? ($33 is kind of highway robbery, if you ask me.)

I think(?) I’ve probably dialed up this single on YouTube a time or three, but if — like me — you haven’t heard it in half-a-decade or more, here ‘tis… This is both sides of the single in one video, back to back…

Other cities we have considered (with various degrees of seriousness)… • Lots of places in MD, including Baltimore — and also farther out. Not quite as far out as Western Maryland, but maybe and far west as the transition between Western and non-Western MD — and a lot further north than DC (which we know wouldn’t be a ‘city’ but we’ve at least thought about it). • Some places in VA, incl. Charlottesville and Richmond — neither of which are as big as we’d like, but we certainly like them (if not quite love them). • PA places, Pittsburgh (obviously), or maybe Lancaster? (Not in love with Lancaster, but it’s certainly ‘alright’-ish.) • There are definitely some nice places in western New York, but probably also not ‘city’ enough for our ideal. We moved to DC from Kansas City (and I grew up in St. Louis), and I’ve heard Pittsburgh is very comparable to KC in a number of ways (size, cost of living) — and also that Pittsburgh might be the most ‘Midwestern’-ish city that’s that far east. So theoretically Pittsburgh checks tons of boxes for us. We’ve been thinking about Pittsburgh for at least 5 years— but we haven’t been in person since like 9 years ago because of the Covid shutdown. And then after that, after I got rehired on at the Museum I work at here, but my workweek runs Thursdays thru Mondays — and my wife is M-F. So for the first 3 years after the Museum reopened in April 2021, we barely had 2 weeks off at the same time all 3 years (Museum was functioning on a bare-bones staff), and we could never even do weekend trips together (and not even individual days off together, as my wife had troubles taking Tuesday or Wednesdays off, i.e. my ‘weekend’). I also have to go deal with my now 97-year old father about 6-7 weeks a year, so I’ve had to burn all my time off for that. So, we’ve been researching Pittsburg online mostly, and keep finding more and more reasons to like it — at least on paper.

On paper, Pittsburgh checks a lot of boxes for us. • Proximity to the east coast, without the insane cost-of-living of so much of the mid-Atlantic or New England. • It’s a real city, with real city amenities — especially walkable neighborhoods, and at least halfway decent public transportation. We haven’t owned a car since we moved to DC 13 years ago — and we do expect to have to buy (just) one car when we move (wherever we move) — but it would be great not to have to take a car everywhere. • Some less critical amenities— but which serve as a proxy for the kind of places we like — include (at least a couple) halfway world-class museums, an above average symphony orchestra (not a dealbreaker if we don’t have that, but in our experience that’s a good proxy for other performing arts in the area, art house movie theaters, and at least some interesting ethnic food options, etc). • We also want somewhere with relatively easy access to natural resources, parks, hiking, and day-trips to get halfway in the wild. • A local music scene that’s halfway interesting, of course. Jazz, but also chamber music, and a nice dash of at least a couple the following: bluegrass, choral music, really any kind of quality ethnic folk music, etc. • Good healthcare options. We don’t have kids, and we feel like we need to be somewhere that we can fend for ourselves as we get older (mid-to-late 50’s now). But walkable city neighborhoods is probably key — not necessarily “downtown” (we’ve never lived in a downtown anywhere), but places with at least some halfway-sorta-vibrant city neighborhoods (or whatever passes for that these days). We think nothing of walking 1-2 miles to go places and just get stuff down around here in DC (we live 3 miles north of the White House and downtown DC now), and it would be nice NOT to go back to 75+% dependency on a car. And all the kind of “stuff to do” that cities offer. We live in a shoebox in DC now (635 sq-ft 1BR apartment) — and will happily fit into something similar wherever we go (although 800 sq-ft would be nice).

After 30 years with the federal agency she works for, my wife is now eligible for full retirement from her job that brought us here to DC ~13 year ago — and much as we love living in DC, the cost of living here is insane. (We’ve rented this entire time, so we’d likely be renting wherever we go too, or at least initially for a couple years.) Anyway, has anyone here lived in Pittsburgh — or have close family there — and what are your thoughts? Edit: We really don’t know much firsthand about Pittsburgh actually, other than one 4-5 day long weekend there about 9-10 years ago. On paper, it seems like it would be a good — maybe even great? — fit for us. And online, I’ve been reading consistently good things about the city for years and years (and few negatives that are dealbreakers for us). Clearly we need to get back up there again to really scope it out in person — now that my wife is getting more serious about looking at retiring, I’m trying to get out of the mode of constantly sifting through lists of the 10 or 15 cities we haven’t ruled out, and “kinda” like — and now finally looking at a few places a LOT more closely.

I heard Ravi just once — in the summer of 2000 (July, iirc) at whatever jazz fest was at Penn Valley Park in Kansas City back then (Kansas City International Jazz Festival, probably). Strong set, iirc — just a quartet. Reminded me more of Joe Henderson than of his dad — which I kinda liked, actually.

https://www.discogs.com/label/72707-Design-Records-2 Lot more if you click ‘show more’ right under the start of the verbiage about the label (or I’m getting a ‘show more’ on iPhone). See also: https://www.bsnpubs.com/pickwick/designstory.html