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I think Am I Blue might be just about THE sleepiest jazz record I’ve ever heard.

Did some googling, and aha! — THIS is actually what I was remembering, which appears to be three solo-trombone albums compiled on 2cd’s. https://www.discogs.com/release/4267729-Albert-Mangelsdorff-Solo And then, on top of that, I’m seeing there’s actually a second (Vol 2) 5-album (5-CD) set of studio recordings also on MPS… https://www.discogs.com/release/4267769-Albert-Mangelsdorff-Originals-Vol-2 All that’s in addition to the first (Vol 1) of studio dates — and the 2-album (2cd) live one you rightly pointed out.

Probably right. Might be 3 albums on 2 CD’s then — something like that, iirc.

I got one off Discogs about 2 years ago, maybe about $80 iirc. Can’t remember if it came from outside the US — but it might have. There’s also another 3(?)-disc *Live* Mangelsdorf set on MPS — but I haven’t gotten that one yet (might never, unless I see it for a better price).

Or asking another way, are there any other(?) studio Monk recordings with Dunlop besides those two (and the bonus material on their most recent CD reissues) — ?? (And I’ve already been told to get Monk in Stockholm, and Monk in Tokyo for some great live Monk w/ Frankie.)

Are Monk’s Dream and Criss-Cross the only(?) studio albums with Dunlop? Asking because I just heard them for the very first time only a few days ago (shocking, I know). And I was kind of blown away how well they hang together in terms of group interplay — almost like no other Monk I think I’ve ever heard in 30 years (admittedly, only a very random 8-10 albums at most, all the Blue Notes, and a smattering of others all over the place). And I think(?) Frankie might be the secret sauce that blew me away with these two albums — in part because my hunch is he has such a positive influence on Monk’s playing (which seems more snappy than I’m used to), and maybe Rouse too? I’ve sort of slept on Monk all these years, but these two albums were kind of a revelation for me on Tuesday and Wednesday — I listened to both of them 3x each over the two days (and thus this thread).

And Is there much consensus around this subject? I’m not deeply steeped in Monk — but from what I have heard, my intuitive sense is that one of the most important keys to the quality of a Monk release is maybe the drummer. And my further intuitive sense is that the drummer may have had some (big?) role in spurring Monk to his best work.

Didn’t even know he was here in DC — out of curiosity, what was venue?

“THIS PRODUCT IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR SALE IN THE U.S. ” hmmmmm…. Wonder why that would ever be??!!

From the article… “Another part of the translated text describes a dialogue between characters, in which Plato shows disdain for the musical and rhythmic abilities of a barbarian musician from Thrace, according to the statement.” I’m sure we can all sympathize, one way or another — which I suppose depends on whether you’re a barbarian or not.

Reminds me of walking into Euclid Records (STL) about 20 years ago —and among the CD’s they had sorta ‘on display’ up front was a David Murray disc with a thought-bubble post-it attached to it that said “This week’s new David Murray release!”. I recall audibly LOL-ing.

I’m my gosh. 75 seems so young. And when I think of all the music I have that he had a hand in, the mind reels. Such a legacy, and certainly a legend of a sort, in certain parts.

This seems to be it. It’s a YouTube ‘short’ — so it has vertical formatting.

Lee Morgan in ‘69! Herbie Hancock in ‘68

Was only vaguely aware of the Pablo thing, and really only the cover art rings any sort of bell (and just the front cover). Not sure I’ve ever seen one out in the wild, so I never had any idea what label (shady, or legit) it might have been on. https://www.discogs.com/master/1234634-Horace-Silver-Paris-Blues

That’s my memory too, except I thought I’d heard he had Lion give him the tapes so Horace could toss (more likely destroy?) the tapes himself. Or maybe that was just speculation I’d read — but I’d definitely heard/read that more than once.

Just broke down and purchased a copy of this book on eBay last night, for only ~$20 with free shipping. Looking forward to it! Edit: I love how I can find a 17-year old topic here on a very specific subject, and revive it again so easily! Such a nice benefit of forum-based discussions. Plus also having a board that hasn’t had the need to close/archive old posts like other higher-traffic forums (probably justifiably) have a need to do.

Just a fraction of what all he and Monk plotted at their frequent ping-pong games.

Gosh that’s sorry to hear, and with my dad almost 97 now — I have to confess I don’t think of 84 as being “that old” — even if I do realize otherwise. RIP.

PM sent!!

Literally just saw American Fiction — finished moments ago, in fact. What a great movie!! Noticed Patrice Rushen did the score and much of the soundtrack.

I thought Oppenheimer was mostly pretty riveting (my wife did to) — and walking out, I left wanting to see it again in another week or two (but never did). And I’d gone into it half dreading a 3 hour film on the Manhattan Project (especially after work, since I work weekends now) — but the only time I glanced at my phone to check the time was shortly after the point in the film after the bombs had been dropped… and I was actually relieved(!) that there was almost a full hour of the film left! — and the last hour was as riveting as the first two, imho. I saw someone mention online that you see very little actually being done in the film… that it’s almost 90% dialog and very little ‘action’. But I thought the film demanded my attention and kept my interest pretty much throughout (or at least 80% of the time). Also, I haven’t seen much Robert Downey Jr. — mainly Chaplin over 30 years ago, and 2-3 other films he had smaller parts in (all back in the 90’s). But based on Oppenheimer — I will absolutely go see any ‘serious’ film he’s in from now on (especially anything that’s a period piece). I also hadn’t ever seen any Christopher Nolan films — other than his first Batman film (which was fine for what it was — maybe the only Batman film I’ve ever seen, come to think of it) — but I need to go back and see some Nolan stuff at some point too.

Track-listings would probably sell me on either or both of these — if anyone can dig that up. Thx!

No, actually it was at Record Exchange on Hampton (just south of 44). I hadn’t been there in 15+ years — maybe 20 years! But it was such a disorganized mess back then, I just stopped going all together. Its a LOT better organized now, but their jazz selection (at least CD’s) — while pretty darn large, actually — looked like it had been well-picked over years ago. I might even go back again in a year and go thru everything again, A to Z — but I also don’t think I’ll really discover any more than another small handful of half-interesting discs (and it looks like their jazz stock barely changes year over year). A friend who’s been there more over the years says their Rock CD’s change a lot more frequently — and those seem to be their bread and butter.