Rooster_Ties

The Jazz Messengers with Tyrone Washington and Woody Shaw on the front line (circa 1969, April iirc)

I'd love to see Contrasts released as an individual title...

My favorite contribution to this thread yet. Not sure my brain every really processed that that was a door (before seeing it here), but it certainly delighted in noticing it within the contect of this thread!

Both are great Roger Waters projects, IMHO -- perhaps even his very best. But neither seem very much like Pink Floyd to me. No small point -- I really feel as though there's a HUGE tide-shift with The Wall. Maybe that's not all Roger's fault -- artists change and evolve, as is their every right. I've read dozens of places that the rest of the band kinda checked-out, in terms of contributing to the creative process. So manybe there's plenty of "blame" to go around (if one wants to think of it that way -- though I don't). All I know is that when Roger and the rest of Floyd had their big legal battles in the late 80's (over the name) -- one of the things to come out of the settlement, was that Roger fully owns and controls The Wall (with the exception of Gilmour's co-composer credits on Young Lust, Comfortably Numb, and Run Like Hell). And nothing could be more appropriate, in my mind -- because The Wall is FULLY a "Roger" project, with Pink Floyd (sure), but it was Roger's baby almost entirely. Same with The Final Cut (which Roger also owns and controls) -- a "Roger" project, with Pink Floyd. If I owned copies of The Wall and The Final Cut, I would file them under "Waters, Roger" in my collection. In essence, the proto-start of his solo career, as far as I'm concerned.

As far as redbook CD issues go, the audiophiles on the Hoffman board think the newest remaster of Animals is the most significant sonic improvement of any of the latest reissues. (I don't have time to source it at this moment, but there was a poll there -- and Animals won, hands-down -- two to one over the next highest vote-getter, iirc.) Talking about the reissues around the same time as the huge Dark Side box, what, 2 going on 3 years ago? - gosh, that seems like yesterday. FWIW.

How about a window?

So, what are the rules again? I've not followed the thread closely (obviously), but the rules were never completely clear to me (or maybe I'm just an idiot. )

The nice thing about the BBC stuff is there are a handful of tunes that he otherwise never (or very rarely) ever performed live. Throw in a few nice covers, and the the BBC stuff -- while made up of shorter tunes -- is generally a really strong set of material - IMHO.

Can't recomend the entire recording -- but the Albert Hall recording of "Little Wing" (I think from 1969) is absolutely definitive -- even topping the studio version. That said, the rest of that night is a mixed bag.

I can't help but wonder what they'll actually broadcast on that actual South Dakota station?

The thing is, it's really NOT a train wreck at all. Hell, I think it's every bit as good as Natural Essence, and perhaps even a little better even!

Just gave $50 -- let's shoot for $800!

Me too! How about...

I know, I know -- the fault is entirely mine, not Wayne's. If the night was half tenor, I'd go in a heartbeat (even pay top dollar). But all soprano, and I'm a little iffy.

I'm not at all worried about the cost of overhead, but rather the headache (over two decades) of trying to preserve digital audio data -- in any way that will preserve said data with a high degree of certainty. BTW, I'm not saying my way is the "right" way either, but simply that I'm (obvioulsy) much less concerned about data-loss when I have the original physical media to fall back on -- so (effectively) there's nothing riding on the success (or failure) of data migration going forward. I agree any one data-conversion can go perfectly well (or even two or three). My concern is trying to protect that data over the inevitable changes in technology over the rest of one's lifetime (or at least the next 25 years). For those who are more savy, technically, obviously there are more options to be comfortable with.

My point is that simply trying to maintain a "virtual" music collection over multiple format changes, over multiple operating systems, over multiple decades -- is no small matter. Can it be done? - certainly. Will you never loose anything in the process? - not without a fair bit of headache and/or on-going overhead with an eye to preventing it (and an overhead I don't want to deal with). FWIW, I *DO* expect to be listening to CD's 10 years from now, and 20 years from now, and maybe even 30. Perhaps a "CD-player" won't be my primary listening device, but I doubt I'll ever get rid of all my physical media -- especially for the rare stuff that isn't easily replaced.

I basically never smoked, save for maybe a dozen individual cigarettes in college - just to see what it was like. Fortunately I never got even the least bit hooked -- then again, I swore I *NEVER* would (even before I tried my first one). My mom smoked her whole life, and it probably contributed to the stroke that ended her life when she was 69 (about 10 years ago). Growing up in a household with a smoker made me resolve never to become one. My dad smoked for maybe 10(?) years back in the late 50's, I think -- but one day he decided to stop, and he never picked up another one after that.

And people wonder why I continue to hold on to 3000+ CD's, instead of putting them all on my computer (and saving all that physical space by getting rid of the CD's). Who really thinks they'll be able to access everything they have electronically in 25 years? Hell, even 10 years!! THAT'S why I stick with CD's and other physical media (mostly CD's) -- the LAST thing I want to do is worry about porting my music collection across multiple operating system changes (and other forced software changes) over two or three decades. No thank you!!

If I might inquire, did Wayne play tenor much (if any?) on this program with the LA Phil?? He's performing what I'm guessing will be the very same program here in DC with the NSO in September (I think), also with Esperanza on the billing. I know I really should go, but ticket prices being what they are -- if he's playing soprano the entire night, I've got to confess that I'm a little on the fence. I was fortunate to hear the quartet maybe 5 or 6 years ago (in Kasas City), where he played LOTS of tenor. I also heard him on the Herbie/Wayne duo tour 10+ years ago, but alas, that was all soprano. I know, I know, it shouldn't matter - and I wish it didn't (FWIW).

Everybody who missed this thread the first time, check out Youtube audio-uploads above. Crazy shit!

Hey Jim, still would love to hear your thoughts on this date. Cheers!! -- Rooster T. Give this a spin when you get the chance, Jim - and report back!!

So, anyone happen to have a chart for "Hello To The Wind"? And what's the story on the album with the crazy, previously unknown (to me) version in the Youtube clip posted above??

Anybody?

Don't suppose Paper Man ever came out on CD, did it? Seem to remember stumbling on (legit?) mp3's of it on Amazon (or whatever format they sell - I rerely buy downloads). No bonus tracks, afaik.